Why they shouldn't punish people that glitched | Forums

[Agent.Potato]

@RaneMokeev Taking away items is also a form of punishment, maybe they will do that. You associate punishment with the worst meaning of it and that's your own doing.

Also the fact that you payed "good money" for the game doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want with that game especially when it effects negatively that game or other players. I am sorry but the "your money" card has and should never have any value. If you cheated/exploited you did that full-knowingly. You never do those things "by accident".

Also, it's not about "kill a boss, die, and respawn just to get the same loot all over again"...it's about how you go about doing it. If you do it like the game is obivously intended, nobody will ever comment about it. If you use blatant/obvious tricks that were NEVER intended to be used in that way, then i am sorry to tell you, you full-knowingly exploited.

[MaxRocketansky]

Yeah, Right on. Also my car goes 150mph, Who the **** does that cop think he is trying to give me a ticket. They are the ones that let me drive it on their roads.

/your logic is fail. Grow up kid get off of moms tit.

Man, your analogy is stupid.

Should be: if you will rent hours on racetrack, and then cop will catch you here for your 150mph...

The difference between game bought for fun, and breaking general rules to keep everyone safe.


You are all criying like babies. Wake up! You bought product, this product was expected to be delivered in some quality. Quality is poor, and you are blaming players? WTF

[Hope499]

I glitched it once myself. Only once, but even if I get a ban, thats fine.

I glitched, knowingly, and if I get a 3 day ban, I will live with it.

[bakkufu]

The glitch was found, however the PLAYERS made the decision to abuse it. I find that a lot of these players typically then run the gear they were awarded from the incursion in the DZ, normally actively attacking players hunting for gear with little or no fear of retribution because of the disparity.

If Ubisoft ban them a few days, they'll come back. I sincerely hope that the punishment is deletion of the high end items collected from the incursion. And if they leave over it, are those really the kind of players the community needs?

I think not.

[GasT-BAS]

How this could have been so much better.

"There was a bug in our latest release allowing some players to gain an unfair advantage. As such, those who did not abuse this glitch will be compensated. Those who took advantage of the glitch will have those goods/credits/loots removed."

I hate, hate, hate hearing the word "punish" when I'm playing a game I paid good money for. I especially hate it when it's the developers fault and not those who took advantage of the problem. Go ahead, take back whatever they got from glitching. That's fair. But don't bite the hand that feeds you. I didn't use the glitch, so theoretically I'm at a loss...and I honestly don't care. It's your game, folks. You made it. If I can kill a boss, die, and respawn just to get the same loot all over again...it's not up to me to figure out that's against the rules.

Well there are more steps to follow then only dying to a boss, those that exploited know very well what they did.

You have to take into consideration that they have been using the advantages they have gained against other paying customers, they need to have punishments cause otherwise it will happen again.

Glitching and Duping are problems that exist in almost any game and are not easy to just code away. Its not only the shield that makes it possible to glitch thru walls.

I have played games where these issues have existed for years and it have ALWAY´s without questioning been considered cheating very close related to scripting.

Exploiters need 1st strike 2week temp ban plus reset then second strike perma ban.

Skiddies need a perma ban directly.

[baja2215]

Nobody that glitched will be punished. While knowing there is a bug sitting there and taking advantage of it isn't right, it is a bug caused by the devs and used by players. What they could've done is shut the Incursion down immediately or at least fix some things around but they didn't and the whole thing spread like a plague rapidly.
There's little or nothing to be done at this point but balance things around and learn from their mistakes. That goes for both glitchers/hackers and the devs as well.

'it is a bug caused by the devs and ABUSED by the players.' - you don't use a bug or glitch you abuse it and that is wrong and should be punished. 99.9% (if not higher) of all cases of exploitation in the game are intentional - it's not like you stumbled into it! People search for glitches, post about them and then all the people who simply want everything given to them and get an unfair advantage over others use said glitch - why would you not expect to be punished when you're found out!? Is your moral compass so broken?

[Adonnay]

Dude, it's just a video game.

What achievements? You aren't accomplishing anything. You're wasting time playing a game. Achievements are out there in the real word. Having something to be proud of happens out in the real .
Being a stand up moral person happens in the real world.
The dz itself by design is for people that want to get over on others. The devs flat out made a point in this game for people to do the most immoral things imaginable. Sneak up an shoot someone in the back, take their stuff and laugh over their dead bodies.
Get ahead by any means necessary. No rules , anything goes.
That's the message this game sends. And that's what players are doing .
But it isn't real life. If someone had told me games would come to this back when I was playing golden eye on my n64 I'd have told them they were flat out crazy.

This whole statement is so wrong but interestingly enough it pretty much demonstrates the mindset of cheaters and exploiters (no matter if you personally cheated or exploited).

You shouldn't play video games if you consider them a waste of time. Seriously. You basically justify exploits and cheats because they reduce the time wasted on a particular game. Why play then at all?

For me a video game is not a waste of time (or I wouldn't play it). For me a video game is entertainment, a pleasent time to spend my time either alone (PvE/Story) or with friends (Co-op/PvP). And the message the game sends is actually different too in my opinion. The game provides you with the possibility to do harm. It doesn't force you to attack others or even tries to tell you it is okay to shoot others in the back. It actually flags you rogue for attacking others and allows others to bring you to justice. So the message is actually pretty close to what real life is like. You can go against the rules but you have to take the consequences.

And being a stand up moral person applies to every aspect of life, be it in real life face to face or online hidden behind a screen. The latter is actually much more representative on what kind of person you really are. I for one am not a different person with a different moral compass just bacause I'm online.

And yes, this is a game. But your actions can have a direct consequence on someone else's gameplay experience. And that alone should be enough to ring your moral bells and call for your honesty and integrity without the need of a ToS/EULA/Anti-Cheat tools or code to keep you in check. But unfortunately most people's integrity doesn't seem to digitize well.

[ScreamerChaotix]

Also the fact that you payed "good money" for the game doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want with that game especially when it effects negatively that game or other players. I am sorry but the "your money" card has and should never have any value. If you cheated/exploited you did that full-knowingly. You never do those things "by accident"

You are correct, sadly. We no longer buy a game so much as we buy a licensing agreement. And in that regard, in this digital world anything we "buy" can be taken away from us. My money, or your money, or anyone's money means nothing to a large company.

It's funny how this turns into some big deal...and so big a deal we all need to vent on a message board. Raargh you knew what you were doing! Raargh it's the developers fault! Raaargh I'm going to spend two hours writing the greatest post of all time that will change everyone's mind!

Still, I think Ubi could have handled it better. Like I said, using the word "punish" is too harsh. I could never be so aggressive towards a paying customer...then again, I'm not a big company.

[MaxRocketansky]

For me a video game is not a waste of time (or I wouldn't play it). For me a video game is entertainment, a pleasent time to spend my time either alone (PvE/Story) or with friends (Co-op/PvP). And the message the game sends is actually different too in my opinion. The game provides you with the possibility to do harm. It doesn't force you to attack others or even tries to tell you it is okay to shoot others in the back. It actually flags you rogue for attacking others and allows others to bring you to justice. So the message is actually pretty close to what real life is like. You can go against the rules but you have to take the consequences.

Nope, it rewards you with exp and credits if you will run away.

And everything that iL Down Li said is true and right. This is game, you dont want to glitch, so do not glitch, but you all guys are doing huge problem and taking it so emotionally...

This is game, use your energy to help children or animals, or to fight with nazis or regimes.

[Ar0nn4s]

'it is a bug caused by the devs and ABUSED by the players.' - you don't use a bug or glitch you abuse it and that is wrong and should be punished. 99.9% (if not higher) of all cases of exploitation in the game are intentional - it's not like you stumbled into it! People search for glitches, post about them and then all the people who simply want everything given to them and get an unfair advantage over others use said glitch - why would you not expect to be punished when you're found out!? Is your moral compass so broken?

The reason I believe nobody will be punished is because I bet 75%+ of the playerbase is sitting on a "Glitched" status given at how quickly the matter inflated.
While my moral compass is working as intended, the right thing would be to punish everyone but I would start from the devs. Not because the glitch was there. Because they didn't do something to contain the damage while it was fresh. Players can follow up after that, all of them if possible.
Sadly though, it is how the world works. They're pushing time, will add new content and fix some minor things until the recent events will matter no more.