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[TickTak77]

As a player that did the incursion on challenging legit, it's actually faster to just do the incursion on challenging than to exploit it. But I understand some people might not have the gear for it. If I could offer a criticism about incursion I would say that the range of the turrets is crazy, they make almost half the room completely unusable and it just becomes hiding in the underground and shooting things from there. Oh and the fact that the grenadier mobs never run out of grenades.

*Facepalm*

Don't listen to this guy. Simply not true.

It's about 1 hour - 1.5 hours to do the exploit, compared to double that to do it on challenging on average

[Deno03]

For those of you asking about warnings for exploiting and cheating... You must agree to ToS before making an account. In that ToS, I am certain Ubisoft has sated something like: They can change these terms at any time, without notifying us. Quite frankly, for those who have had accounts through Ubisoft for years, a side by side image of the agreement would look very different than what they agreed to at the time. With that being said, now to the real discussion here...

First off, how is Ubisoft going to know if you glitched or not? The time it took to kill the APC was longer than if a good team (who exploited Bullet King and other things) to kill it by doing all the waves. This game, and every game from Ubisoft is full of cheaters, hackers, and glitches. This is typical Ubisoft though. Threaten the players who might have did a minor infraction, while turning a blind eye to all the hackers ruining the Dark Zone. This gear people were farming is crap. (From what me and my friends got from actually completing the incursion) As someone else said, the high-end yellow gear is better. The real problem with this game is those who ruin an entire segment of the game, for the majority of the players. Fighting someone who exploited good gear is nothing like fighting someone who teleported onto you, and will not take damage. (I literally emptied 2 entire mag from an MP5 (with good talents) and 2 mags from the Liberator (my dps over 120k for both weapons) and still could not damage a player that teleported onto me and 3 friends in the DZ. That doesn't even take into consideration the damage my friends were doing with there weapons. 4 of us died to 2 people while trying to extract. Security Link talent (I think it is called) did nothing but delayed the inevitable. Perks, talents, gear, or nothing else was going to help us. All of them critical head shots weren't doing sh*t.

In closing, I say this with all do respect... Screw you, Ubisoft, if you ban players who glitched an Incursion while this game has been full of glitches and the Dark Zone is full of hackers, cheaters, and glitchers. This Incursion is not the issue. It is in the design, development, and structure of the game. Heck, the launch of this game crashed an ESL tournament. Fix your stuff and there will be less people cheating, exploiting, and glitching.

[FAC-Miiu]

For those of you asking about warnings for exploiting and cheating... You must agree to ToS before making an account. In that ToS, I am certain Ubisoft has sated something like: They can change these terms at any time, without notifying us. Quite frankly, for those who have had accounts through Ubisoft for years, a side by side image of the agreement would look very different than what they agreed to at the time. With that being said, now to the real discussion here...

First off, how is Ubisoft going to know if you glitched or not? The time it took to kill the APC was longer than if a good team (who exploited Bullet King and other things) to kill it by doing all the waves. This game, and every game from Ubisoft is full of cheaters, hackers, and glitches. This is typical Ubisoft though. Threaten the players who might have did a minor infraction, while turning a blind eye to all the hackers ruining the Dark Zone. This gear people were farming is crap. (From what me and my friends got from actually completing the incursion) As someone else said, the high-end yellow gear is better. The real problem with this game is those who ruin an entire segment of the game, for the majority of the players. Fighting someone who exploited good gear is nothing like fighting someone who teleported onto you, and will not take damage. (I literally emptied 2 entire mag from an MP5 (with good talents) and 2 mags from the Liberator (my dps over 120k for both weapons) and still could not damage a player that teleported onto me and 3 friends in the DZ. That doesn't even take into consideration the damage my friends were doing with there weapons. 4 of us died to 2 people while trying to extract. Security Link talent (I think it is called) did nothing but delayed the inevitable. Perks, talents, gear, or nothing else was going to help us. All of them critical head shots weren't doing sh*t.

In closing, I say this with all do respect... Screw you, Ubisoft, if you ban players who glitched an Incursion while this game has been full of glitches and the Dark Zone is full of hackers, cheaters, and glitchers. This Incursion is not the issue. It is in the design, development, and structure of the game. Heck, the launch of this game crashed an ESL tournament. Fix your stuff and there will be less people cheating, exploiting, and glitching.

Havent seen much cheaters the last days tbh.
seen more people wearing high end stuff with a GS above 200 beeing bored of the game trying to destoy others fun while keep going rouge. (i know, beeing rouge is part of a game) in fact they got a total advantage over other players who got there gear on the legit way. im sure not many of them already got the set from challangeing

if those useless exploiters dont get punished for doing so i see no feature for this game.
if you allow people to glitch or whatever and dont punish them they will never stop tying...

i totally agree with the guy saying, never saw any game with so many exploiting people like this one....

cheers

[Deno03]

Havent seen much cheaters the last days tbh.
seen more people wearing high end stuff with a GS above 200 beeing bored of the game trying to destoy others fun while keep going rouge. (i know, beeing rouge is part of a game) in fact they got a total advantage over other players who got there gear on the legit way. im sure not many of them already got the set from challangeing

if those useless exploiters dont get punished for doing so i see no feature for this game.
if you allow people to glitch or whatever and dont punish them they will never stop tying...

i totally agree with the guy saying, never saw any game with so many exploiting people like this one....

cheers

Maybe we are playing at different times or different platforms. I am not saying you are wrong, I am simply saying that you and I are experiencing different things. I understand that glitching does change the game, but Ubisoft can't pick and choose when to punish. What message does that send to their consumer? The Incursion gear does not change the pvp any differently than any other exploit has. The problem is, Ubisoft spent all this time, talking up this incursion, trying to make it seem like a big deal, and now they got their pride hurt that people have found a way to make it easier. Nothing changes the fact that the issue, just like all their games, is in the design, development, and structure of the game.

As for you last statement, I take it that you or the other person never played Siege. That game is still full of Ubisoft BS.

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The point I am trying to make is that putting a band-aid over a bullet hole doesn't fix it. The changes have to come from inside the company. (I though the crashing of servers, during the ESL tournament, would have been the wake up call for Ubisoft) We all know that punishing a cheater or exploiter will not solve the problem. It is the same as with the prison system. A stronger punishment does not stop the crime. The death penalty does not deter murder. People only get more creative in their crimes.

Are you telling me that the players who glitched the Incursion is worse than the players who hack the DZ and steal everyone's gear they worked hard for? What about the players who farmed named bosses outside the DZ? What about the players who spend hours switching servers to farm the tools, fabric, and electronics? What about the players who were able to re-roll 3 stats on their gear? This new gear is nothing more than a score to them because their gear stats dominate the new stuff. The incursion is only a way for people to possibly try and catch up to those who had the game on launch.

While we might be at a slight disadvantage to those who glitched the incursion, the fact still remains the gap between those who were able to glitch from day one and those who started the game after the fix is beyond anything the incursion has done.

[Knute730]

We are working on fixing the exploit. Obviously it is against our Code of Conduct and the team is looking into what can be done in terms of punishment for those who have exploited.

If you want to review our Code of Conduct: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...ode-of-Conduct

Honestly, after being burned by Ubisoft so many times, if they don't straight up ban everyone who exploited then I'm done with them as a brand. Anything less only makes any sense of progression in this game vanish, and with it, my patience.

[CryMeARiverNewbs]

Honestly, after being burned by Ubisoft so many times, if they don't straight up ban everyone who exploited then I'm done with them as a brand. Anything less only makes any sense of progression in this game vanish, and with it, my patience.

So either ban thousands of players, or possibly have the chance of losing you? I know which way this will end. Even if a thousand people leave with you, most are just puffing out their chest and will be playing again in a day or two. I've seen it over and over again.

I'm not defending exploiters, but the random forum threats are a waste of space. Nobody cares if you leave. Even if everyone that threatened to quit did leave, nobody will notice. The DZ is only 24 players, and the servers put people together regardless. You have to have left permanently for Ubisoft to notice the statistics of everyone, and that only means the game gets better for those of us that stay. It affects you in no way regardless, so please leave already before making another post like this.

[Knute730]

So either ban thousands of players, or possibly have the chance of losing you? I know which way this will end. Even if a thousand people leave with you, most are just puffing out their chest and will be playing again in a day or two. I've seen it over and over again.

I'm not defending exploiters, but the random forum threats are a waste of space. Nobody cares if you leave. Even if everyone that threatened to quit did leave, nobody will notice. The DZ is only 24 players, and the servers put people together regardless. You have to have left permanently for Ubisoft to notice the statistics of everyone, and that only means the game gets better for those of us that stay. It affects you in no way regardless, so please leave already before making another post like this.

Haha, you're projecting. I've got PLENTY of other games to play.

If Ubisoft is going to let the people who cheat just keep on playing then yeah, I see no reason to buy their products again. Besides, so what if a bunch of neckbeard cheaters rage because they got banned? Ubisoft already HAS THEIR MONEY. ****, half of them will probably go out and buy the game/season pass again.

In any case, if you cheat, you get punished. Seems pretty straight-forward to me.

[Deno03]

Haha, you're projecting. I've got PLENTY of other games to play.

If Ubisoft is going to let the people who cheat just keep on playing then yeah, I see no reason to buy their products again. Besides, so what if a bunch of neckbeard cheaters rage because they got banned? Ubisoft already HAS THEIR MONEY. ****, half of them will probably go out and buy the game/season pass again.

In any case, if you cheat, you get punished. Seems pretty straight-forward to me.

Really? If you cheat you get punished... How is it cheating for them to play the game? This is Ubisoft's fault. It would be really hard to find 1 person who has not "cheated" by your definition. Should everyone be banned and the game shut down? But I bet you don't consider your exploits as cheating do you. I bet you took advantage of the rehabilitated bug, the double revive, or the countless other bugs in this game.

You need to suck it the f*** up and realize you are in the same boat as everyone else. While I might not have glitched the incursions time and time again, I know that I ran with the rehabilitated bug. I know that I had been double revived. And Ubisoft needs to suck it the f*** up and stop blaming their problems on the players. Their game is flawed. They need to fix it, learn from their mistakes, and do better the next time. It's not like people had to spend days trying to figure out how to do this. You telling me that the people at Ubisoft are to incompetent to test for things like this? Hamish and others played this before it was released to the players. What is their job if not to test for things like this? Did they sweep it under the rug like "Eh, no one will think of that"?

[Knute730]

Really? If you cheat you get punished... How is it cheating for them to play the game? This is Ubisoft's fault. It would be really hard to find 1 person who has not "cheated" by your definition. Should everyone be banned and the game shut down? But I bet you don't consider your exploits as cheating do you. I bet you took advantage of the rehabilitated bug, the double revive, or the countless other bugs in this game.

You need to suck it the f*** up and realize you are in the same boat as everyone else. While I might not have glitched the incursions time and time again, I know that I ran with the rehabilitated bug. I know that I had been double revived. And Ubisoft needs to suck it the f*** up and stop blaming their problems on the players. Their game is flawed. They need to fix it, learn from their mistakes, and do better the next time. It's not like people had to spend days trying to figure out how to do this. You telling me that the people at Ubisoft are to incompetent to test for things like this? Hamish and others played this before it was released to the players. What is their job if not to test for things like this? Did they sweep it under the rug like "Eh, no one will think of that"?

Like I said, Ubi already has their money. F 'em.

And no, actually, I've used none of the exploits you're talking about. I don't get my jollies from cheating at games. It may surprise you to find that I don't steal money out of the bank when I play Monopoly with my family either.

I know. Not cheating at games people play for entertainment. I must be a madman.

[woksu]

Like I said, Ubi already has their money. F 'em.

And no, actually, I've used none of the exploits you're talking about. I don't get my jollies from cheating at games. It may surprise you to find that I don't steal money out of the bank when I play Monopoly with my family either.

I know. Not cheating at games people play for entertainment. I must be a madman.

Either you are lying or you have not yet reached level 30

It is harder to find gear/talent/skill that is not glitched somehow than solo challenge mode Incursion with GS131.