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[powdernitz]

As it's been said, punishing users for a developer end issue is ridiculous. No one else does this, when such a glitch happens in a game like Bloodborne or World of Warcraft they simply patch it out. Yes, bots, scammers and hackers can be an issue and should be a punishable offense. But exploiting an app-end glitch created by the developers? That's your bad, not the fault of the players, and it's utterly asinine to ban them.

This also says nothing about the folks who may have stumbled upon these glitches accidentally, or getting false positives from innocent players as being cheaters. I've never used the exploit myself, but this makes me seriously wonder what's going on behind closed doors that you're blaming users and taking punitive measures against them for something that's your own fault. This paired with the other issues with balancing also make me wonder how you're going to manage the rest of the endgame and The Division's quality of life, and if I didn't make a mistake in selecting this game as a long term investment.

this made sense to me

[powdernitz]

What about the players who farmed named bosses outside the DZ? What about the players who spend hours switching servers to farm the tools, fabric, and electronics? What about the players who were able to re-roll 3 stats on their gear?

there's been all sorts of glitches, and to single one out as worse than the others is nutty. incursion's getting a bad rep right now, but it's not worse than any of the other glitches that have been going since day one. glitch or don't. but ubi can't punish people for "glitching" when it could also be considered use of a game mechanic like the ones in the quote above. is it glitching right now to change servers for division tech in the dz? go in get dt, and then switch servers so you can pop in and get dt from a fresh server.

[Somewhat_Lazy]

sorry mate but exploiting it it WAY more fun than doing it legit.. i did it both ways.. and with that atrocious lag , there is now ay i am going to bother to play this legit a second time.. i just dislike .
- not being able to reload
- cant see grenade effects
- enemies teleporting
- enemies not taking damage

etc etc etc..

and on plus: for THAT crapy "reward" ? all of my set items are WAY WAY worse than my 183 items i already had.. none of them is better in a SINGLE stat.. and the "bonusses" are crappy, too.. nah i keep my 183 yellows... the set items just wont do it..

This guy right here is admitting to exploiting. Has he been banned yet? I doubt it. And that is your answer. Ubisoft doesn't give a crap about the players.

[Somewhat_Lazy]

As it's been said, punishing users for a developer end issue is ridiculous. No one else does this, when such a glitch happens in a game like Bloodborne or World of Warcraft they simply patch it out. Yes, bots, scammers and hackers can be an issue and should be a punishable offense. But exploiting an app-end glitch created by the developers? That's your bad, not the fault of the players, and it's utterly asinine to ban them.

This also says nothing about the folks who may have stumbled upon these glitches accidentally, or getting false positives from innocent players as being cheaters. I've never used the exploit myself, but this makes me seriously wonder what's going on behind closed doors that you're blaming users and taking punitive measures against them for something that's your own fault. This paired with the other issues with balancing also make me wonder how you're going to manage the rest of the endgame and The Division's quality of life, and if I didn't make a mistake in selecting this game as a long term investment.

This is just BS. Gamers get banned all the time for exploiting glitches. However, the developers have to give a **** about the players to take action like that. It isn't free, they have to pay people to confirm and ban these moron cheaters. Ubisoft simply doesn't give enough of a crap.

[isaiahsix8]

We are working on fixing the exploit. Obviously it is against our Code of Conduct and the team is looking into what can be done in terms of punishment for those who have exploited.

If you want to review our Code of Conduct: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...ode-of-Conduct

Ubisoft needs to really consider the precedent they are about to set with gamers. The underlying problem is with Ubisoft and the game code itself. Not the gamers. We are not talking about gamers writing in code or hacking. We are not talking about racism or abuse to other players. The term exploit and use thereof can mean many different things. One might argument that a high level player hiding in the dark zone picking off lower level players is an exploit. This circumstance has definitely happen to me early on in the release of the game. You did not see me crying about it. Furthermore, if I want to run a challenging level mission by myself without others help, then figuring out where NPCs will and will not attack becomes important. Let me guess, I am 'exploiting' the game. For Ubisoft to hide behind an absurdity such as an exploit is ridiculous. The real problem is with Ubisoft and fixing a game with multiple issues. Stop hiding behind a code of conduct. Take responsibility. Fix the game and move on with your lives. We are talking about games here...not saving lives.

[M4YON v2]

This is just BS. Gamers get banned all the time for exploiting glitches. However, the developers have to give a **** about the players to take action like that. It isn't free, they have to pay people to confirm and ban these moron cheaters. Ubisoft simply doesn't give enough of a crap.

You're an idiot! have you ever heard of the expression "don't hate the player, hate the game" well take note you can whine and moan as much as you like the devs knew these exploits with the Mobile Cover existed and were widely used by more than half of the community and yet they still released incursions.... What did they think would happen? What did they think the first thing people would try and do?

This isn't hacking or modding this is an issue created by poor beta testing on the devs end and as a result they are the ones that should be sat here holding their hands up taking the flak, not out and about threatening users for a mistake they made.

If they ban users for this exploit then they have to go back to day one and ban everyone who has ever used an exploit to gain advantage from the people that rushed to level 30 for easy high ends before nerf to the bullet king farmers. Lets see how many community members are left playing the game then Ubi? I predict around 5-10% of your entire community will remain because as ever you didn't beta test internally an relied soley on your community to do it for you and now you threaten bans? Bore off!

[Snowdog2000]

I think there is a lot of truth in this. It's not so much the developers don't care about cheaters but more a case that they perhaps didn't expect the levels some will go to get their ill-earned rewards. Yes they need to take strong action but to do that they have to be really sure that the individual is cheating. Only trouble is by the time they explore and consider dishing out bans etc then those guilty players will have moved on to the next new game to break. Their broken minds get bored once they have fulfilled their cheating ambitions.

[HisEvilness]

*Facepalm*

Don't listen to this guy. Simply not true.

It's about 1 hour - 1.5 hours to do the exploit, compared to double that to do it on challenging on average

more like 20 to 30 minutes with SP at 45K.

[Mocharetta]

We are working on fixing the exploit. Obviously it is against our Code of Conduct and the team is looking into what can be done in terms of punishment for those who have exploited.

If you want to review our Code of Conduct: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...ode-of-Conduct

just a heads up, if you wanna punish exploiter, then this is the list of exploit user need to be banned too :

list of must ban exploit user if ubisoft ban falcon lost exploite (because those that exploit have an advantage to other people not exploiting)

bulletking farmer (before nerf, but those people that exploit need to be banned too),
xp dz boosting
hornet farmer,
medkit bag abuser, - pvp related
ammo bag abuser, - pvp related
triage abuser - pvp related
midas (before the nerf),
player exploring outbound area,
non-rogue protecting their rogue friends, - pvp related
lexington basement skip,
rehab mask, - pvp related
reckless chest, - pvp related
wall breacher with mobile cover,
police academy speed runner,
double reviver, - pvp related
primary weapon while using balistic, - pvp related
abusing fire damage that give headshot proc caduceus, - pvp related

will update this list later on. if ubisoft ban an exploiter, then all of these above exploiter user need to be banned too.

[Ash20011]

just a heads up, if you wanna punish exploiter, then this is the list of exploit user need to be banned too :

Don't forget the use of mobile cover (both PvE and PvP) to get the bonus to stick to your character if you roll through it...and get extra damage boost (stacks with pulse), extra armor (cover dmg reduction) and makes you unable to be pulsed.