Suggestion: Add DZ AP Brackets | Forums

[xlNekoPowerlx]

AP, or Armor points. Have weapons and armor have an AP point set to them. Players with (example) 500AP are in teh lvl 30 500AP-550AP bracket. This of course would take effect once you hit Level 30.

this seperates Higher geared players from the lower geared, so the lower geard can GET higher gear. its just like the Level brackets.

Reasoning behind this being that the current DZ is camped at spawns by Rouge Groups with obvious full Highend loadouts who are unkillable. literaly just spent an hour just trying to get my crap back off a group who went so rouge they had a 126min Manhunt global bounty on their heads. Seperate those with op gearsets, from those who do not, so that everyone can /enjoy/ the darkzone and get loot. Instead of those who dont even need it.

The main issue with the current DZ is that those with high gear, will continue to get high gear by keeping everyone else from getting anything. Ive spent the last week being steamrolled by groups waitng at spawn, or waiting for extractions. Popping Defender does nothing to stop 2 teams for HighEnd Manhunt rouges from taking your crap and attaching it to the line you called in

[Davoodoo92]

I already see problems with that.

Ppl will either get crappy armor and good weapon to reach lower tier and destroy everyone, sure you can prevent this by having higher values on weapon than armor, but then theyll get crappy weapon and godly armor and still destroy those with worse gear.

This system is very easy to exploit.

[xlNekoPowerlx]

I already see problems with that.

Ppl will either get crappy armor and good weapon to reach lower tier and destroy everyone, sure you can prevent this by having higher values on weapon than armor, but then theyll get crappy weapon and godly armor and still destroy those with worse gear.

This system is very easy to exploit.

Not really, using crappy armor but good weapons still bumps you up due to the weapons haveing AP applied to them as well. Meaning you jump brackets by simpky having x weapon equipped. another way to combat it would be to have it scan your invintory in general, to prevent swapping into greens, then once your in swapping to full high-end. Simple matchmakeing strats

[Davoodoo92]

Not really, using crappy armor but good weapons still bumps you up due to the weapons haveing AP applied to them as well. Meaning you jump brackets by simpky having x weapon equipped. another way to combat it would be to have it scan your invintory in general, to prevent swapping into greens, then once your in swapping to full high-end. Simple matchmakeing strats

You will either focus on absolute offense or absolute defense and these minmaxers will obliterate everyone playing legit.
You will have worse armor but your weapon will be good enough to melt their faces under second or you will have bad weapon but enough armor to stand against everyone forever.

[Carthalion]

part of the charm of the DZ is you don't know what to expect from the players there...if they go rogue, if they pick you up when you're down, how geared they are, etc.

if you implemented a gear score system which is already coming, but instanced players based on their gear score, couldn't players just sneak in with some lvl 4 guns and armor, then once in the DZ swap their gear out for HE gear...now if the game then has to reinstance players based on the change, that exploit could be going rogue on players, looting, swapping gear to lower level stuff then getting reinstanced and no chance for the player killed to get revenge.

another possible exploit would be to have your primary wpn the wpn of choice, then your secondary and side arm be a green lvl 4 weapon. In theory your gear score should be incredibly low and most players won't have any issue with just rolling w/their HE primary wpn.

while the DZ still needs fixing, I don't think this is the way to do solve this issue.

[J1MMY]

I'd go naked with a vector and survivor link. Two lv 1 white weapons on 2nd/sidearm's and destroy newyorks population in an hours time.....

[Carthalion]

I'd go naked with a vector and survivor link. Two lv 1 white weapons on 2nd/sidearm's and destroy newyorks population in an hours time.....

damn it, I forgot white wpns existed.

[PyroPaul]

It is called 'Gear Score' and a Gear Score system is actually already in the game... even though it isn't being used for anything other then as an arbitrary restriction to entering the future raids. You could potentially separate players via Gear Score.

But that rarely works because savvy players often find a way to exploit the Gear Score system, allowing them to get down-tiered into brackets they out perform.... and casual players will often get punished heavily as they find one piece of gear which up-tiers them several brackets into a level of play they are not accustom to.

[xlNekoPowerlx]

part of the charm of the DZ is you don't know what to expect from the players there...if they go rogue, if they pick you up when you're down, how geared they are, etc.

if you implemented a gear score system which is already coming, but instanced players based on their gear score, couldn't players just sneak in with some lvl 4 guns and armor, then once in the DZ swap their gear out for HE gear...now if the game then has to reinstance players based on the change, that exploit could be going rogue on players, looting, swapping gear to lower level stuff then getting reinstanced and no chance for the player killed to get revenge.

another possible exploit would be to have your primary wpn the wpn of choice, then your secondary and side arm be a green lvl 4 weapon. In theory your gear score should be incredibly low and most players won't have any issue with just rolling w/their HE primary wpn.

while the DZ still needs fixing, I don't think this is the way to do solve this issue.

I'd go naked with a vector and survivor link. Two lv 1 white weapons on 2nd/sidearm's and destroy newyorks population in an hours time.....

i already adressed both of these options. Have it scan your inventory. Destiny (puke....) does this for Iron Banana. As for equipping a vector and two lvl 1 whites, youd be matched with other lvl 30 fools doing the same. youd still be matched to 30s, but your score for weaponry would slap you into a teir with people of the same weapon teir. Meaning theyd have more options to kill you, whereas you only have the vector. its simple matchmaking strats they could easily implement. hell have it put you in a diff bracket just for owning x # High ends. Theres alot of different ways they could make it happen. Or just turn rouge off completely, no player damage. buff the enemies, make it an end game PVE area.