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[ES-Ulukai]

Yes they do but as I said they have a certain vision for the game.

I wanted MMO Star Wars : The Old Republic to be like the MMO Star Wars Galaxies and we were many people on the forums asking for that but when SWTOR was released it wasn't like SWG !

[he1nz]

So it begs the question... why do people keep buying games at launch? Show some spine and wait. If you do, in about a year or 2 you will see this companies launching finished games again. You have to start blaming yourself and taking responsability for your own actions at some point.

+1
It is as simple as that 👍

[Teun_de_Dreun]

Was waiting for this game but I'm afraid I won't be buying it on release due to R6Siege and Division release. Seems Early Access is the new default release quality. Ubisoft would do well selling the new games on release with a 25% to 50% discount if R6Siege and Division release is the new Ubi standard.

[Lolssi]

Was waiting for this game but I'm afraid I won't be buying it on release due to R6Siege and Division release. Seems Early Access is the new default release quality. Ubisoft would do well selling the new games on release with a 25% to 50% discount if R6Siege and Division release is the new Ubi standard.

Good for you!

[Teun_de_Dreun]

Good for you!

Good for every gamer as they maybe upgrade the standard when we don't buy it on release. Then again I thought this game would be out next month (start of May) but date was wrong on the website I use so they have 5 more months to give info about the game and might turn me around, I was to quick with my post cause I misinformed myself. Still they should release a better product as Siege and Division and make sure the game can be played as intended. Glad you think it's good for me! Thanks Lolssi.

[GiveMeTactical]

To be fair, Kimi and Antoine did this as well with Future Soldier and...yeah. They definitely are paying attention and listening though just as they always have, it's just more of a question now of what they do with the feedback. I'm much more optimistic now than in the past though.

And if I remember correctly, they also did this for GRAW & Vegas so it proves nothing in my eyes... but then again, I am just a negative guy that thinks if they have done this in the past 10 years and they continue to do so with newer tittles is not because they don't care but because they are hard of hearing so it may take another 10 years .

That's the question isn't it? They have the feedback, they know what people want, but do they use it? I guess only time will tell.

They have always had it, by the truck loads but in the end, it is their vision and how they want you to play their vision the issues for the majority.

Good for every gamer as they maybe upgrade the standard when we don't buy it on release. Then again I thought this game would be out next month (start of May) but date was wrong on the website I use so they have 5 more months to give info about the game and might turn me around, I was to quick with my post cause I misinformed myself. Still they should release a better product as Siege and Division and make sure the game can be played as intended. Glad you think it's good for me! Thanks Lolssi.

Don't hold your breath and I could care less if I am seeing as the negative of the bunch just cause I don't suck on UBI's tit... if they launch Siege and the Division in the state that they did why would they change their modus operandi with Wildlands? think about it!!! what greater value does GRW has over the other tittles for UBI that they are willing to botch 2 of their 2015-16 titles but not this one?

I don't really care much about FC primal so I haven't gone to that forum but I bet if I do, I am going to find people raging about the game at launch just like in the divisiion and siege... I could be wrong though.


You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, the saying goes but sometimes, when honey or vinegar does not work... if you light them on fire, the problems goes away for sure!

[BS__Paladin]

I was really looking forward to the division but on release found the game to have a poor story, no immersion, average shooting mechanics and a bland world. Got to level 5 or 6 and thought this game doesn't deserve 1 more minute of my time. For me, it was a huge disappointment. My excitement for Wildlands has dropped from 100% to 50%.

As a huge Ghost Recon fan I hope Wildlands doesn't suffer a similar fate. I wont offer any suggestions or feedback as :

1. There is nothing concrete to feedback on
2. There are a million ideas already out there.
3. Game design and mechanics should be 90% locked by now
4. Feedback got us nowhere with Future Soldier ( apologies if you liked that game but as an old GR fan it felt like an insult to the loyal community ).

Looking forward to seeing the finished article, particularly how the end game plays out, the structure of PvP and the level of mechanical and aesthetical customisation.

[Sp--pyBrown]

I was really looking forward to the division but on release found the game to have a poor story, no immersion, average shooting mechanics and a bland world. Got to level 5 or 6 and thought this game doesn't deserve 1 more minute of my time. For me, it was a huge disappointment. My excitement for Wildlands has dropped from 100% to 50%.

As a huge Ghost Recon fan I hope Wildlands doesn't suffer a similar fate. I wont offer any suggestions or feedback as :

1. There is nothing concrete to feedback on
2. There are a million ideas already out there.
3. Game design and mechanics should be 90% locked by now
4. Feedback got us nowhere with Future Soldier ( apologies if you liked that game but as an old GR fan it felt like an insult to the loyal community ).

Looking forward to seeing the finished article, particularly how the end game plays out, the structure of PvP and the level of mechanical and aesthetical customisation.

5/5 post. Not what people want to hear but this is definitely the truth.

[GiveMeTactical]

Great to see some of the old school members and +1 on what Paladin said (politically Correct of course)... I can't manage to do the same lol

My main problem is believing UBI wigs have given these Devs free reign and alloted time to make a great product while not caring what happens or how other titles are launched or if even finished

[Sp--pyBrown]

My main problem is believing UBI wigs have given these Devs free reign and alloted time to make a great product while not caring what happens or how other titles are launched or if even finished

^This.

I think I'll just wait until E3/the next trailer/gameplay. It's pointless to argue at this point.