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  1. #101
    its fun to own the zone your farming, we cleared out a few groups yesterday, that came along on our runs
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  2. #102
    Originally Posted by Munktor Go to original post
    You haven't run into my group and I. We are most certainly NOT afraid of going rogue and do not need to bait people into going rogue to kill them.

    What your'e referring to is the solo players trying to grief through abuse of mechanics.

    We just shoot you in the face and lulz. Sometimes we kill people that don't even have any loot on them just to make sure people have fear in the zone.

    We too felt the DZ was a bit too "safe". So we decided as a group likely aren't enough rogues harassing players. We decided to be the criminal element. It is FUN. Very fun.
    This is exactly what the DZ needs
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  3. #103
    Originally Posted by MIKE.Error Go to original post

    I'm kinda curious about where all these pvp kids are now.
    Im here, patiently waiting a true PVP mode, if it ever comes. If not, Ill keep whittling this piece of wood.
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  4. #104
    Im pretty sure it will get more hectic as people start getting better gear, finding their stat settings and need less grinding
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  5. #105
    The reason is the risk for dying as a rogue. Sometimes this will derank you. So as the game is new and people are trying to farm rep for those high end mods/gear. Not many people are going rogue.

    After a few weeks as more and more get high end mods and gear unlocked and get fully decked out the ratio of rogue encounters will only rise as people have reached their goal.

    Give it time the dz will become more and more ruthless as time goes by. Eventually it will be a bunch of filly decked out players who want to have fun.
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  6. #106
    Originally Posted by JayMadIV Go to original post
    Everyone was in denial about what exactly the Dark Zone was.

    it's a PVE Zone with the option to flag yourself for PVP. it always has been. that's how it was designed and how the mechanics work.

    if it were not, then we'd all be permanently rogue when we enter the Dark Zone.
    Wow blows my mind to see someone with two brain cells to put together here with all these cod greifers infecting the forums like the dollar flu
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  7. #107
    Originally Posted by Munktor Go to original post
    You can't "white knight" a game mechanic bro...

    White Knighting refers to when someone defends another poster on a forum board because of gender. When a female poster says something and everyone attacks her, but a guy steps in defend her. That's the WHITE KNIGHT defending the DAMSEL IN DISTRESS.

    What you posted was just a complete misuse of the term.

    Everything else you posted is fine as your opinion.

    I've noticed the more you engage with players, the more players engage with you. I thought the DZ was pretty empty at first too, then I noticed you can see the flashing on the extraction zones when someone activates them. My crew was constantly pulsing looking for enemies and such and we'd notice people would appear on our pulse and then turn the other way. We assumed people are general scared of groups and avoid them.

    Such would be logical as many are going in either solo or just 2 people.

    I feel pretty confident things are working as intended. As more people get up into the higher levels and start being a bit more brazen, I think the chaos will turn up another notch.

    Then again, you probably read just the first bit of me correcting you and are now currently typing an insult ridden diatribe that likely makes little to no coherent sense.
    You are corret the White Knight term in its genesis is indeed about "protecting damsels in distress". But as everything online the term have been adopted and have changed over time and now can cover broad number of cases. Example would be a large number of posters on forum saying something is not working as intended. Then the "white knight" rolls and help the "demsel in distress" in this case the developer. But hey like i said my english is far from perfect.

    Now for someone who claim to have read my post you show interesting lack of undurstanding. Where in my post did i mention the DZ feeling empty or been depopulated ? Have i ever said there are no agents to be found there ? Yes the DZ is full of players. Hell sometimes i have seen 3 groups of players contending one NPC's spawn.

    All that however is far from the point i'm making - and the point ( as in every post so far ) is that for all the players been stuck in the DZ for hours to no end is - there is no rogue grups to be found ANYWHERE. And if the rogue system is as "fine" as some PvE farmers claim - then there should be some rogue population. Yet there isnt. And this is not subjective. You cant tell me that for the good 20-30 hours i have spend in the DZ already i have been so "lucky" or "unlucky" to see in total 4-5 rogue groups. And this is not just me - if you read the forums ( and you do if your post count can be an evidence) then you must have seen players upon players like me reporting that the DZ is anything but what they advertised.

    The DZ was supposed to be this high stake zone where you never know when you are gona be attacked. Where PvP happen as much as PvE.
    What we however got is a PvE zone whit people trying to make you go rogue. You can go solo, fill your backs whit loot. Then go to extraction zone among 10 other players and alt+tab whitout fear of been killed. This is not high stakes. This is farming. And more importantly its boring. There is no risks, you dont wonder if attacking this NPC's group is good plan as there are agents nearby. There is no tention. I have never been attacked in the DZ. Missions in the PvE world are more tense then the DZ - and thats saying something.

    And players like Arsenic that have no interest in PvP but are all for the "fat loots" whit minimal risk - are defending the system.

    Now lets hope this time you would read my post.
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  8. #108
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    Originally Posted by SilentFearHNR Go to original post
    You are corret the White Knight term in its genesis is indeed about "protecting damsels in distress". But as everything online the term have been adopted and have changed over time and now can cover broad number of cases. Example would be a large number of posters on forum saying something is not working as intended. Then the "white knight" rolls and help the "demsel in distress" in this case the developer. But hey like i said my english is far from perfect.

    Now for someone who claim to have read my post you show interesting lack of undurstanding. Where in my post did i mention the DZ feeling empty or been depopulated ? Have i ever said there are no agents to be found there ? Yes the DZ is full of players. Hell sometimes i have seen 3 groups of players contending one NPC's spawn.

    All that however is far from the point i'm making - and the point ( as in every post so far ) is that for all the players been stuck in the DZ for hours to no end is - there is no rogue grups to be found ANYWHERE. And if the rogue system is as "fine" as some PvE farmers claim - then there should be some rogue population. Yet there isnt. And this is not subjective. You cant tell me that for the good 20-30 hours i have spend in the DZ already i have been so "lucky" or "unlucky" to see in total 4-5 rogue groups. And this is not just me - if you read the forums ( and you do if your post count can be an evidence) then you must have seen players upon players like me reporting that the DZ is anything but what they advertised.

    The DZ was supposed to be this high stake zone where you never know when you are gona be attacked. Where PvP happen as much as PvE.
    What we however got is a PvE zone whit people trying to make you go rogue. You can go solo, fill your backs whit loot. Then go to extraction zone among 10 other players and alt+tab whitout fear of been killed. This is not high stakes. This is farming. And more importantly its boring. There is no risks, you dont wonder if attacking this NPC's group is good plan as there are agents nearby. There is no tention. I have never been attacked in the DZ. Missions in the PvE world are more tense then the DZ - and thats saying something.

    And players like Arsenic that have no interest in PvP but are all for the "fat loots" whit minimal risk - are defending the system.

    Now lets hope this time you would read my post.
    I'll limit it to the part that was most pointed.

    I've noticed the more you engage with players, the more players engage with you.

    You can be the one to shoot first FYI.

    If you see people, and you wonder why people aren't engaging you - it's because like you said, they're scared of going rogue. Same thing my group noticed. So instead of also being scared. We decided to take the fight to people.

    Our DZ's became chaotic messes of people trying to kill us for going rogue, running from us trying to kill them, and coming back for revenge. Even after our rogue timers had cleared out.

    If you're noticing a lot of people doing the AoE or Line of Fire tactic to turn you rogue - just unload into them and slap them with a sticky bomb. It really throws them off their game as they're hoping you'll do it accidentally and then try to run. Instead BOOM, sticky bomb their face and lulz.

    End of the day, what you want is other people to go rogue for you to chase.

    You want an advantage in essence and don't want to lose any XP, credits, or rank. Guess what? That's most people in the DZ lol. Grow a pair and take the fight to people.

    Or, as I said :

    I've noticed the more you engage with players, the more players engage with you.

    I figured i'd clarify that part because you obviously glossed over it.
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  9. #109
    Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch Go to original post
    For starters, learn how to spell. It's getting ridiculous. The word is Rogue.

    Secondly, I was just in the dark zone and survived two man hunts and killed about 20 different rogues. There are plenty of people going rogue, the post above yours even proves it, but of course you carelessly overlook anything that doesn't fit your narrative.

    Being called a white knight by someone like you is deeply amusing though, keep up the great work.

    Also you gona burn in hell for been a lier - massive one at that.
    http://divisiontracker.com/profile/uplay/Arsenic_Touch
    Turns out you have exactly 0 - ZERO - NON - **** ALL - rogue kills.


    Yeah bro totaly you know what the hell you are talking about.
    Also Dark zone lvl - 0......


    God why are players like that allowed to post on the forums is a mistery for me.
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    Originally Posted by SilentFearHNR Go to original post
    Also you gona burn in hell for been a lier - massive one at that.
    http://divisiontracker.com/profile/uplay/Arsenic_Touch
    Turns out you have exactly 0 - ZERO - NON - **** ALL - rogue kills.


    Yeah bro totaly you know what the hell you are talking about.
    Also Dark zone lvl - 0......


    God why are players like that allowed to post on the forums is a mistery for me.
    Ouch. Critical hit.

    I guess his profile has not updated yet.
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