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    Next AC Needs Quality Continuous Ambient Music!!!

    I am fully aware that this will not have been the first time that this topic has come up however, I feel like this feature in an AC game absolutely needs to be promoted no end!

    The Ezio trilogy included some of the most amazing scores I have heard (and AC1 to an extent) - for example, remember traversing the rooftops of Venice to the sound of about 5 or 6 different pieces of music that created an incredible atmosphere that just suited the identity of that particular setting?

    My point being, the music score is an extremely important aspect of the AC games. Not gonna lie, I thought the 'music' for ACS was terrible and rushed, no atmosphere, no feeling, no making the hairs on your back stand up, nothing.

    Assuming we have Egypt as the next setting, I would argue that it is absolutely vital that the game has a good quality music score that plays continuously in the background while we are free roaming and moving from mission to mission. I believe it would compliment the game really well.

    Ubisoft please can you bring back Jesper Kyd as composer? He came up with some real masterpieces!

    What are your thoughts?
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    IMO all AC music up to Syndicate has been gorgeous.

    Syndicate was great don't get me wrong, but a lot of the soundtrack is just the same melody OVER AND OVER AGAIN. <--- You know which one, the one that plays in the menu screen.
    I understand they want the music to link together but it just seems like a wasted opportunity for some interesting scores.

    Unity had a better soundtrack IMO, really emotional as well.


    Ambient music is something I actually liked in Syndicate, What I didn't like is how long I had to stay of the roofs for it to play.
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    Syndicate has some really good ambient music. Too bad Ubi just had to **** the bed by having it not play most of the time. And with people defending it with silly excuses like "there's no music in real life", I don't see AC ever going back to the good days of great ambient music upto ACR.
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    Yeah, we definitely need the ambient music back! I myself really enjoy procastinating in the form of collecting all those collectibles after I did all the missions and the lack of ambient music while parkouring in the last few games really made it feel cold and lifeless, especiallly when total silence reigns.
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    Originally Posted by Jessigirl2013 Go to original post
    IMO all AC music up to Syndicate has been gorgeous.

    Syndicate was great don't get me wrong, but a lot of the soundtrack is just the same melody OVER AND OVER AGAIN. <--- You know which one, the one that plays in the menu screen.
    I understand they want the music to link together but it just seems like a wasted opportunity for some interesting scores.
    Revelations was much, much, MUCH worse about this. AC3 reused the main theme a lot throughout the soundtrack too, and let's not forget "Ezio's Family".
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    Revelations was much, much, MUCH worse about this.
    Revelations reused the mostly in cutscenes (and even then, it would be either Desmond cutscenes or dramatic moments in Ezio/Altair time), and a couple scripted chase sequences, The Bloodlines theme in ACS is woven in cutscenes, chase music, combat music, ambient music and suspenseful music as well. So there's lots and lots of Bloodlines in the game.

    Though it's Austin Wintory we're speaking of, who composed Journey entirely out of variations of a single leitmotif (and made each track feel different while remaining the same song), so that wasn't surprising to me.

    AC3 theme wasn't used in the game as much as Bloodlines in ACS, and Ezio's theme is pretty barely seen in his game outside of Venice Rooftops and, sometimes, woven in ambiance for a couple seconds. We actually hear only like 5-10% of Earth (which was like, once) and Ezio's Family (which in AC2 sounded once, and in ACB sounded two times in a slight variation) tracks in the entire games. The soundtrack has music that we never hear in games. Ironically, Ezio's theme, though now AC theme, is more prominent in Unity than in Ezio's games.
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    Originally Posted by Farlander1991 Go to original post
    Revelations reused the mostly in cutscenes (and even then, it would be either Desmond cutscenes or dramatic moments in Ezio/Altair time), and a couple scripted chase sequences, The Bloodlines theme in ACS is woven in cutscenes, chase music, combat music, ambient music and suspenseful music as well. So there's lots and lots of Bloodlines in the game.
    Just for fun, I checked out the complete recordings of the ACR soundtrack. The main theme is literally heard in every single track composed by Lorne Balfe, with the expection of "Sofia Sartor", "A Heated Discussion", "A Familiar Face", "Last of the Palaiologi" and "Scheduled for Deletion". That's 5 out of a total of 26. It's even on some of his multiplayer tracks. Haven't checked ACS yet, but I'm pretty sure "Bloodlines" doesn't pop up in literally 99% of all tracks.
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    Originally Posted by SixKeys Go to original post
    Just for fun, I checked out the complete recordings of the ACR soundtrack. The main theme is literally heard in every single track composed by Lorne Balfe, with the expection of "Sofia Sartor", "A Heated Discussion", "A Familiar Face", "Last of the Palaiologi" and "Scheduled for Deletion". That's 5 out of a total of 26. It's even on some of his multiplayer tracks. Haven't checked ACS yet, but I'm pretty sure "Bloodlines" doesn't pop up in literally 99% of all tracks.
    Wow, I knew ACR reuses the main theme a lot but I wasn't expecting this much. And I can assure you that at least more than 5 of Syndicate songs do not use the main theme.
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    Originally Posted by SixKeys Go to original post
    Just for fun, I checked out the complete recordings of the ACR soundtrack. The main theme is literally heard in every single track composed by Lorne Balfe, with the expection of "Sofia Sartor", "A Heated Discussion", "A Familiar Face", "Last of the Palaiologi" and "Scheduled for Deletion". That's 5 out of a total of 26. It's even on some of his multiplayer tracks. Haven't checked ACS yet, but I'm pretty sure "Bloodlines" doesn't pop up in literally 99% of all tracks.
    Speaking of ACS, in its official soundtrack (which doesn't have all tracks used in the game, mind you), main theme pops up in (in various amount of weaving in/variation):
    Bloodlines,
    London Is Waiting,
    Soothing Syrup,
    The Churning Seas of London,
    The Late Pearl Attaway (to be fair, it's very subtle piano there at the beginning, but Lorne has subtle tracks as well, but in the end it's more evident)
    Everyone Has A Price
    Waltzing on Rooftops and Cobblestones
    Cathedral of Steel
    Top Hats and Sword Canes (this one's my favourite, I think)
    The Assassin Two-Step
    Take Your Bow, Knave
    A Ballet of Blades
    A Gauntlet Scherzo
    London Will Soon Be Rid Of Your Chaos
    Darling, What A Night
    Hooded Allegro Vivace
    For Those We Loved
    Bloody Presto Con Brio
    So Much For a House Call
    I Would Have Created a Paradise
    Family (yeah, it's mainly Ezio's theme, but Bloodlines is still incorporated there)

    So out of 30 instrumental tracks on the soundtrack (the other 6 being tavern songs), 21 has the Bloodlines theme incorporated in it, and to be fair most of those that are left have a couple notes from Bloodlines theme as well (not enough for it to make an appearance, so to speak, but enough for thoughts of it to be evoked).

    And this doesn't even mention unreleased cutscene music, unreleased WWI music (where Bloodlines is used in a different style), and unreleased mission music. So Bloodlines theme is literally pretty much everywhere in ACS (the argument 'oh but it's different variations' wouldn't count since we're counting appearances as in Revelations also in tracks like Master and Mentor or Son of Umar the theme has a minor role ), and the big difference is that in Revelations single-player it's limited to cutscenes and cart chases, in Bloodlines it's in every aspect of the game from cutscene to stealth to action to, well, everything.

    Also, the Dance of Daggers theme is reused quite a lot in the official soundtrack, though I didn't count how many times, but around 6-7 or so.
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    Indeed!

    My wildest dream if the Ancient Eypt rumour turns out to be true is Karl Sanders -Metal musician- doing the soundtrack. Imagine a sandstorm through the desert while this plays:




    PD the music doesn't have a bit of metal, by the way.
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