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    Balancing Rogue Risk and Reward

    I had been thinking quite a bit about why the reward from going rogue didn't feel worthwhile in the beta and then it dawned on me. The reward for surviving rogue status in the beta was a flat amount of dark zone money based on your rogue rank aka how many players you killed. (I didn't pay as much attention to rank xp but I am fairly certain it was a flat amount as well.) If you were rank 1 you got roughly 100 dark zone money for surviving, 200 for rank 2 and so on up to roughly 600 for surviving a man hunt. My suggestion is to make the reward scale based on how much money you currently have and how high your dark zone rank currently is in addition to your rogue status. Since you lose money and rank proportional to the amount you have why shouldn't the rewards also be proportional? This also solves the issue that players with very low rank and amounts of dark zone money stood a lot to gain from going rogue while risking very little.

    If you are going to argue the rewards should remain a flat rate because of drops from other players I disagree for a few reasons. Non rogue agents you kill drop very low amounts of dark zone money unless they have a very large amount of dark zone money on them. Also, you cannot sell the dark zone items for dark zone money.

    I understand gear in the full game will not be so dependent on purchasing gear from dark zone vendors but I still feel both the reward and risk should scale so that it still viable at the end game to go rogue. If the most interesting part of dark zone gameplay isn't worthwhile at the end game, then I don't know what will be worth playing at the end game.

    TL;DR: Make the reward for surviving rogue scale based on how much money you currently have and how high your dark zone rank currently is as well as how many non rogue players you killed.
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    Munktor's Avatar Senior Member
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    Devs have confirmed there will be a PVE currency to DZ currency conversion in the full retail game.

    /close thread
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    Originally Posted by Munktor Go to original post
    Devs have confirmed there will be a PVE currency to DZ currency conversion in the full retail game.

    /close thread
    But for certain items DZ rank is needed.
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    No thank you that's a terrible idea going rogue your reward is the loot from the player you killed rogues don't deserve to get more funds they deserve to be punished if you don't like it don't go rogue or suffer the consequences of your decision to go rogue
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    Originally Posted by Munktor Go to original post
    Devs have confirmed there will be a PVE currency to DZ currency conversion in the full retail game.

    /close thread
    So I should just grind pve to buy stuff from dark zone vendors and never kill anyone in the dark zone? That sounds like so much fun. Hope you enjoy the game being dead before the first dlc drops.
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    Originally Posted by Smileyguy24 Go to original post
    No thank you that's a terrible idea going rogue your reward is the loot from the player you killed rogues don't deserve to get more funds they deserve to be punished if you don't like it don't go rogue or suffer the consequences of your decision to go rogue
    TIL attacking another player in an area where pvp is enabled makes you a bad person. Can you be an ignorant white knight somewhere else?
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    Originally Posted by BLU3 2 U Go to original post
    TIL attacking another player in an area where pvp is enabled makes you a bad person. Can you be an ignorant white knight somewhere else?
    The current rewards for going rogue are more than fine.

    1. loot
    2. DZ credits for killing another player
    3. DZ credits for surviving rogue
    4. The satisfaction you get when you successfully get 1-3
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    Originally Posted by Prox-21 Go to original post
    The current rewards for going rogue are more than fine.

    1. loot
    2. DZ credits for killing another player
    3. DZ credits for surviving rogue
    4. The satisfaction you get when you successfully get 1-3
    I'm just saying to scale the dark zone money for surviving rogue so it is a useful amount for everyone at every level. That way even if the items you get are crap, you can at least buy something from a vendor.
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    Originally Posted by BLU3 2 U Go to original post
    I'm just saying to scale the dark zone money for surviving rogue so it is a useful amount for everyone at every level. That way even if the items you get are crap, you can at least buy something from a vendor.
    Nope, the current system is good enough. People shouldn't be going rogue.
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    Originally Posted by BLU3 2 U Go to original post
    I'm just saying to scale the dark zone money for surviving rogue so it is a useful amount for everyone at every level. That way even if the items you get are crap, you can at least buy something from a vendor.
    The rewards are good enough. If you get crappy loot from killing someone its your own fault for not choosing your target more carefully.
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