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    DZ is going to be a hell-hole for new players

    Once people max out in level and gear and have nothing to lose or gain and nothing to do, they are going rogue every time. Any newcomers joining will be swallowed.

    I wonder how long it will take to max out.
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    yep, the only separation in the beta was done by player level. The max level DZ zones are going to be hell for anyone who is undergeared, especially considering there is no trade system. Pretty much, prepare to be killed over and over again by teenagers who are able to play the game 40+ hours a week.
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    If you watch the ign video of the level 27 gameplay I believe he mentions that he has almost beaten the story, so it could be we hit 30 by the end of the game though we have to remember any side missions and grinding that may h ave been done also..

    there will always be players in any game that have any type of pvp that will look to only grief players, there are groups of people who plan to just go around and kill rogues. I myself like to just go into the DZ and hunt rogues and nothing else just for fun. So it will be both ways, those who want to kill just to kill so they will go rogue to do so, and then those who want to kill but are patient and wait for the rogues.
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    Originally Posted by Senator_Bernie Go to original post
    yep, the only separation in the beta was done by player level. The max level DZ zones are going to be hell for anyone who is undergeared, especially considering there is no trade system. Pretty much, prepare to be killed over and over again by teenagers who are able to play the game 40+ hours a week.
    Well since the dark zone changes for max leveled players does that mean that they will be in a different bracket than the rest of us. I believe just like with the beta there is going to be a bracket level system, so at most you will only see players 5 levels higher than you.
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    Originally Posted by solomoncrow Go to original post
    Well since the dark zone changes for max leveled players does that mean that they will be in a different bracket than the rest of us. I believe just like with the beta there is going to be a bracket level system, so at most you will only see players 5 levels higher than you.
    You are correct, the last DZ bracket will probably be max level only, just like the beta was only levels 8-8. But in the spirit of RPGs, we know that a player that has been max level for a day, and a player who has been max level for a month, are significantly different. The day player will have no chance against the month player, because of the separation created by gear. Which is what I mean by my comment with the teenagers who will be able to make very large time investments to this game will have an overwhelming advantage against anyone else. So basically, get ready to be farmed at the entry to the DZ by players going through puberty.
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    Originally Posted by Senator_Bernie Go to original post
    You are correct, the last DZ bracket will probably be max level only, just like the beta was only levels 8-8. But in the spirit of RPGs, we know that a player that has been max level for a day, and a player who has been max level for a month, are significantly different. The day player will have no chance against the month player, because of the separation created by gear. Which is what I mean by my comment with the teenagers who will be able to make very large time investments to this game will have an overwhelming advantage against anyone else. So basically, get ready to be farmed at the entry to the DZ by players going through puberty.
    Ah ok yes I do see your point.

    But I can win out on this, I got laid off from work so now I'm a worthless game junkie till I either get work or go back to school this fall. So it is I that will out farm all the children.
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    Originally Posted by Senator_Bernie Go to original post
    You are correct, the last DZ bracket will probably be max level only, just like the beta was only levels 8-8. But in the spirit of RPGs, we know that a player that has been max level for a day, and a player who has been max level for a month, are significantly different. The day player will have no chance against the month player, because of the separation created by gear. Which is what I mean by my comment with the teenagers who will be able to make very large time investments to this game will have an overwhelming advantage against anyone else. So basically, get ready to be farmed at the entry to the DZ by players going through puberty.
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    Originally Posted by zknight4 Go to original post
    Once people max out in level and gear and have nothing to lose or gain and nothing to do, they are going rogue every time. Any newcomers joining will be swallowed.

    I wonder how long it will take to max out.
    There will be loot and if you die you loose DZ levels XP and DZ loot , also there will be the time where the most interesting pvp combat can take place and we will be in need of " dark zone " pvp combat senarios who promote pvp instead of discouraging it , modes who spawn " into area " of the dark zone , where pvp centric players will be able to go to and fight each others whiout been flag as rogue , many senarios could be fun , such as escort missions , loot drop missions , boss fight missions " PVE/PVP where compeating squad try to kill the boss but can actually be kill by other compeating squad wich will make the whole thing more tricky and so on ...
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    Originally Posted by Stew36o Go to original post
    There will be loot and if you die you loose DZ levels XP and DZ loot , also there will be the time where the most interesting pvp combat can take place and we will be in need of " dark zone " pvp combat senarios who promote pvp instead of discouraging it , modes who spawn " into area " of the dark zone , where pvp centric players will be able to go to and fight each others whiout been flag as rogue , many senarios could be fun , such as escort missions , loot drop missions , boss fight missions " PVE/PVP where compeating squad try to kill the boss but can actually be kill by other compeating squad wich will make the whole thing more tricky and so on ...
    What you describe is phenomenal, but I would like Ubisoft to step up and say all this.
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