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    Could we ever get the 250cc back?

    The Viper just feels odd... Clunky in some way, I'm not sure if it's just because of the skin which is significantly bulkier or if the physics of the bike have been adjusted. Could we ever see the 250cc come back in a DLC package or as a skin?
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    You want the Phoenix back from Evo? They will not bring it back. With each game they adjust the bikes and the physics. The Pit Viper is the closest you will get in Fusion.
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    Originally Posted by HighOnSpeed Go to original post
    The Viper just feels odd... Clunky in some way, I'm not sure if it's just because of the skin which is significantly bulkier or if the physics of the bike have been adjusted. Could we ever see the 250cc come back in a DLC package or as a skin?
    I hear you. The Evo Phoenix is a far superior bike IMHO. The bike physics in general are not that good in Fusion compared to Evo IMHO. I really like the smoothness and tight technical moves you could do on Evo and the types of drivelines it allowed. Fusion feels a little dumbed-down in that regard - for want of a better way of describing things - the suspension is too bouncy, the way the bikes travel along objects and especially curved surfaces is not smooth and everything is so big. It's the first Trials game where I felt the bike handling was inferior to the previous game. Here's hoping that the next Trials game nails the bike/vehicle handling.
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    From what I've been told...
    The Pit Viper is the exact same bike as the Phoenix from Evo.
    The only difference is that in Fusion the rider has weight so it feels different.
    In Evo the rider didn't have weight.
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    Originally Posted by NSPIV Go to original post
    From what I've been told...
    The Pit Viper is the exact same bike as the Phoenix from Evo.
    The only difference is that in Fusion the rider has weight so it feels different.
    In Evo the rider didn't have weight.
    If true, my mind is blown
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    Originally Posted by NSPIV Go to original post
    From what I've been told...
    The Pit Viper is the exact same bike as the Phoenix from Evo.
    The only difference is that in Fusion the rider has weight so it feels different.
    In Evo the rider didn't have weight.
    That doesn't sound quite right as the rider had mass in Evo, perhaps you confused what was explained to you? I heard it was fmx that made the Viper that way. Kind of strange as it handles similar to the Banshee in Evo.

    Either way, the end result is less polished bikes overall... tires piercing through objects, buckling over curved surfaces etc Evo wasn't perfect, but it had far less issues than Fusion. I never expected the physics of the bikes to be the same as Evo - every Trials game prior handled differently - but I didn't anticipate a game where I don't really enioy even one bike. I play Fusion and appreciate it's good points, but no matter how hard I try I can't love it because it lets me down where it matters most...core gameplay. I really hope RL find the magic again with the next Trials game.

    Disclaimer: Above is all my opinion only. Feel free to disagree (and be wrong ).
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    Originally Posted by HeavenlyGuy Go to original post
    If true, my mind is blown
    This is true.
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    Originally Posted by En0- Go to original post
    This is true.
    Well, one learns something new every day. Can we put that fat-a$$ rider on a diet then? LOL
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    That's interesting. I still do think that the sheer bulkiness of the Viper makes it seem more clunky. I've never tried the 350cc because there was never any dlc content on the PC version *cough* but that's something I didn't know.
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