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[Evillpig]

I don't get your video, you say its stupid but you could have easily waited for them to come around the corner instead your team rushed around the corner. They have names above them. Its not like your team didn't know they were there

[d7331.]

We are definely on the same note, that scenarios you quoted are normal ways to play, is oblivious that if I am defending and I got the chance to spot where the attackers spawn, I will aim to slow them and surprise them by sniping from windows, if I got the chance, or picking a spot to deceive them, is stupid to say that I have to stay still on a room even if I got the chance to start the shooting before they enter, is not what I meant tho.



I think you did not understood anything I said, even if the second example was clear enough. Allright then, simply watch this video I found around, to get straight to the point:

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Now, after watching the defenders behaviour on that video, can you continue to say that there's no reason to complain about unfair play? So why a defending situation even exists if all the defenders simply does not care about their objectives? I don't care if as an attacker I win that match (as in the video), my complain is not about losing, is about the damn experience. Why some rusher ***gots have to ruin my gaming experience because they think they're playing a common fps? I bought R6 so I expect to play as intended in the game, this is not a matter of strategy or forcing the defenders to always do "schematic" stuff, absolutely not, is all for the gaming style.

Again: Im absolutely not complaining about the defenders who prefer to wander around the map, inside or outside trying to surprise the attackers, the problem is where there's a clear noob-rush situation, like the one shown in the video.
Then I ask: why you play Rainbow Six? Because is a game that involves to be generally tactic. If you wanna do like the guys on the video, go play CoD, simple enough

I dont see any problem with the rushing strat.
Several people said it before me, adept to the game! Any good team will crush the rushing defenders in notime.
You people really need to start thinking out of the box, I think that is the main problem here

[The Bloocifer]

We are definely on the same note, that scenarios you quoted are normal ways to play, is oblivious that if I am defending and I got the chance to spot where the attackers spawn, I will aim to slow them and surprise them by sniping from windows, if I got the chance, or picking a spot to deceive them, is stupid to say that I have to stay still on a room even if I got the chance to start the shooting before they enter, is not what I meant tho.



I think you did not understood anything I said, even if the second example was clear enough. Allright then, simply watch this video I found around, to get straight to the point:

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Now, after watching the defenders behaviour on that video, can you continue to say that there's no reason to complain about unfair play? So why a defending situation even exists if all the defenders simply does not care about their objectives? I don't care if as an attacker I win that match (as in the video), my complain is not about losing, is about the damn experience. Why some rusher ***gots have to ruin my gaming experience because they think they're playing a common fps? I bought R6 so I expect to play as intended in the game, this is not a matter of strategy or forcing the defenders to always do "schematic" stuff, absolutely not, is all for the gaming style.

Again: Im absolutely not complaining about the defenders who prefer to wander around the map, inside or outside trying to surprise the attackers, the problem is where there's a clear noob-rush situation, like the one shown in the video.
Then I ask: why you play Rainbow Six? Because is a game that involves to be generally tactic. If you wanna do like the guys on the video, go play CoD, simple enough

You say the defenders don't care about the objectives, but if they're keeping you out of the building for an extended period of time are they not defending the objective?

[ActionMan00]

I quote myself again:

I don't care if as an attacker I win that match (as in the video), my complain is not about losing, is about the damn experience.

Thinking out of the box, I dont care because I still can win the match, the problem here that's not how the game is intended to be played, period.
I buy R6S over CoD for that simple reason, period.
And that's the same reason me and others here are just pointing that out, is that non legit? Is not about *****ing or crying, as most of you maybe think, is just to clarify, because 90% of the players out there play fair, and they still win, I don't see what's so strange then.

[d7331.]

I quote myself again:

Thinking out of the box, I dont care because I still can win the match, the problem here that's not how the game is intended to be played, period.
I buy R6S over CoD for that simple reason, period.
And that's the same reason me and others here are just pointing that out, is that non legit? Is not about *****ing or crying, as most of you maybe think, is just to clarify, because 90% of the players out there play fair, and they still win, I don't see what's so strange then.

Either you don't want to understand the point which several different people are literally handing you on a silver plate or you can't
Don't know what it is, eitherway the keyword here is ADEPT

[Evillpig]

Either you don't want to understand the point which several different people are literally handing you on a silver plate or you can't
Don't know what it is, eitherway the keyword here is ADEPT

This, if it wasn't intended to be play the way it is, they would have fixed it or have said its an known issue. Before the defenders had 5 secs before being spotted and they changed it to 2 secs and said if the defenders want to go outside they do it at their own risk.

[THE_REAPER_83]

I've still not come across spawn killers, soes it really happen that often that a simple Adaptation of tactics doesn't work? Or are people unwilling to Adapt to the situation at hand.

Seriously though why in the hell should I as the defender, that is defending my objective, be lit up like a Christmas tree if I decide to peek a window? If I can stop you reaching the building am I not defending efficiently?

Attacker's don't bunch up, keep combat spacing if you get lit up by fire, fire back it's really just that simple.

Spawn killing is low and I refuse to stoop to that level.

[ActionMan00]

Either you don't want to understand the point which several different people are literally handing you on a silver plate or you can't
Don't know what it is, eitherway the keyword here is ADEPT

That's make me smile, people are handing me on a silver plate? Just for playing normally? Didn't know all that people wanted to lose the match just to do me a favor!
Please just talk seriously.. you maybe still think Im the kind of player that yells on the forums on how bad the game is because of the community, declaring the word he wants to quit playing.
You mean I got to adapt? Never said the contrary, I have always adapted, even to the spawnkillers on the airplane map, to be precise my team never lost when I personally experienced this kind of things, but again, Im just pointing out that who's rushing like crazy in R6 (often immature kids) makes nonsense choiche on buyng R6S, when they can simply go with CoD or CS:GO

[DoubleBogey]

We are definely on the same note, that scenarios you quoted are normal ways to play, is oblivious that if I am defending and I got the chance to spot where the attackers spawn, I will aim to slow them and surprise them by sniping from windows, if I got the chance, or picking a spot to deceive them, is stupid to say that I have to stay still on a room even if I got the chance to start the shooting before they enter, is not what I meant tho.



I think you did not understood anything I said, even if the second example was clear enough. Allright then, simply watch this video I found around, to get straight to the point:

youtube has been deactivated.
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Now, after watching the defenders behaviour on that video, can you continue to say that there's no reason to complain about unfair play? So why a defending situation even exists if all the defenders simply does not care about their objectives? I don't care if as an attacker I win that match (as in the video), my complain is not about losing, is about the damn experience. Why some rusher ***gots have to ruin my gaming experience because they think they're playing a common fps? I bought R6 so I expect to play as intended in the game, this is not a matter of strategy or forcing the defenders to always do "schematic" stuff, absolutely not, is all for the gaming style.

Again: Im absolutely not complaining about the defenders who prefer to wander around the map, inside or outside trying to surprise the attackers, the problem is where there's a clear noob-rush situation, like the one shown in the video.
Then I ask: why you play Rainbow Six? Because is a game that involves to be generally tactic. If you wanna do like the guys on the video, go play CoD, simple enough

The video shows the attacking team acting like complete noobs and getting owned. How can you possibly say the defenders had an advantage there? When the last guy finally used his brain, he wiped out 4 guys very easily. Use some strategy and adapt on the fly, that's how a good game is played.

[ActionMan00]

The video shows the attacking team acting like complete noobs and getting owned. How can you possibly say the defenders had an advantage there? When the last guy finally used his brain, he wiped out 4 guys very easily. Use some strategy and adapt on the fly, that's how a good game is played.

Have you even read my post? Or just watched the video and replied? Please quote me the exact part where I complain about the fact that they're advantaged!
I'm talking about Experience, this is a Rainbow Six game, not Counter Strike, this is the only point I personally made. I hope that's clear now