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    Wow this was quite alot of info for me to unpack, had to spend some time on google to understand some of the words., thanks for the reply i appreciate it.

    I donīt use the first Galaxy, that would be preposterous. I use the second, galaxy S2 lol ..... itīs embarrassing but itīs what i use to play TF. I installed android 4.1 on it and it works ok, it has some speed ups and overheating but overall itīs doable and i often have the impression it works better than an S3. I do have an unlocked S4mini with android 4.4 BUT havenīt used it for TF simply because the accelerator button stops working after a few moments. Even if i put the accelerator in the middle of the screen itīll stop working, i donīt think itīs a hardware problem but what do i know. I wish i could get it to work. You mentioned your S4 has the GPE L edition and runs smoothly, would this be your recommendation for anyone that has speed up issues? GPE L seems simpler than tackling CM/COS, kernels, governors... those are too much information at the moment. Need more time to search/read. If GPE L does the trick then it might be worth a try.

    Since i canīt get the S4 accelerator to work Iīm actually considering buying a new android phone, nothing fancy or expensive, just something that plays TF smoothly with no speed ups. Iīm not sure what to look for, any suggestions?
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    Originally Posted by ChemicalD Go to original post
    Wow this was quite alot of info for me to unpack, had to spend some time on google to understand some of the words., thanks for the reply i appreciate it.

    I donīt use the first Galaxy, that would be preposterous. I use the second, galaxy S2 lol ..... itīs embarrassing but itīs what i use to play TF. I installed android 4.1 on it and it works ok, it has some speed ups and overheating but overall itīs doable and i often have the impression it works better than an S3. I do have an unlocked S4mini with android 4.4 BUT havenīt used it for TF simply because the accelerator button stops working after a few moments. Even if i put the accelerator in the middle of the screen itīll stop working, i donīt think itīs a hardware problem but what do i know. I wish i could get it to work. You mentioned your S4 has the GPE L edition and runs smoothly, would this be your recommendation for anyone that has speed up issues? GPE L seems simpler than tackling CM/COS, kernels, governors... those are too much information at the moment. Need more time to search/read. If GPE L does the trick then it might be worth a try.

    Since i canīt get the S4 accelerator to work Iīm actually considering buying a new android phone, nothing fancy or expensive, just something that plays TF smoothly with no speed ups. Iīm not sure what to look for, any suggestions?
    GPE L (Google Play edition Lolipop) is the ROM for original SGS4 (Galaxy S4), it's not available on mini version, so it's a no go there. It's the pure Google flavored ROM (as seen on Nexus phones) without anything from Samsung and it's performing rather well, even nowadays.

    Since you're on SGS2... I would advise to at least try some nice 4.4.4 rom, (beware, if on original Samsung rom greater then. 4.2.2 you can't avoid that KNOX sh1t so easily). You could also repartition your phone so to have more space on main partition (I did that with 4GB PIT file and it worked wonders. I tried 8GB PIT and it's still fine, but I missed some other space elsewhere). The only issue with SGS2 is not being able to perform the trimming operation as it's rather risky on S2, but if you do that on other phones (without nandflash bugs and not having an old nand chips) you would see the smoothness as the phone was out of the box one.

    Maybe try some Slim forks... Maybe SlimSaber as they have great builds with KK 4.4.4. and it's rather minimal ROM with Aroma installer so you can't go wrong there. Maybe also the OMINROM for S2 would fit nice... As for the kernel, that's rather personal choice. I had the DorimanX builds on mine and it was so nice and tweakable that I never looked for anything else on S2 But again, you need to be sure about the compatibility of the ROM you're mounting... There's always ups and downs with w/e custom ROM you mount... (I tried also PA, Paranoid Android and it's wonderful, but in the end I switched it for something else)

    A lot of stuff to digest (I know), but I'm writing this only cause I started my TF experience on SGS2 and I never had issues on that phone, having it set in my way and having it customized to great extent) at the time being.

    As for the SGS4 Mini... it's underpowered phone with some ups and some downs... what can I say.. maybe with OMNIROM or other good ROM you could achieve something.... ( I flashed OMIN on my friends SGS4 mini, but he's not the gamer type, but as for the rest - it's working better then the original Shmasung ROM)

    As for what goes next (read: new phone) it's up to your personal choices and understanding what you really do want from the phone... If not popular, don't expect great community support, thus no modifications or better ROMs etc etc... speaking of Android phones that is

    Cheers.
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    Originally Posted by Fevves Go to original post
    GPE L KNOX PIT nandflash SlimSaber Aroma OMINROM DorimanX Paranoid Android
    Information tsunami Thank you sir, i have my work cut out for me.
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    Originally Posted by Fevves Go to original post
    Hey Dragon, long time no see

    I had to log in cause of this thread as I already tried to explain a bit on your issue here: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...1#post11166299

    The major culprit is the thermal throttling no matter someone else might say and your phone is teh one SOB that enforces that to the letter.. if left unrooted and without the means to disable DVSF... i.e Dynamic Voltage and Frequency Scaling, which is so badly implemented on S4 (so to cheat on synthetic tests vs. real performance by Samsung) that it has to be turned off if you want the phone not to act up if it goes over some thermal threshold Samsung think is OK/NOT OK. It's Touchwiz DVFS app and service that non rooted phone can not exclude.

    I had S4, had it rooted from day one and I never experienced something similar. Now on OPO for quite sime time, it's the OnePlus One on COS 13.1.2 (6.0.1 MM from September this year and no similar issue here).

    Cheers mate & take care!
    Alright Fevves, it HAS been long time no-see, how are ya mate !?

    Good to see that you're still knocking about around here from time to time, also glad to see you're still playing as I've noticed your LB scores are still changing as well !!

    Anyway, thanks for your reply only I've never rooted my phones and to be honest I wouldn't know where to start with it all otherwise I might have a try of what you said to try and get rid of this pesky speed-up/down issue, although as I mentioned before, I've found that if I play outside when I go for a smoke I can play for a LOT longer (pretty much as long as I want really) due to it being colder and windy thus keeping my device cooler where-as if I play inside I can literally only play for about 20-30mins MAX if I'm lucky then it gets hot and unplayable !!

    It never used to be as bad as it is now though, I'd say that it's slowly got worse and worse over the past 8-10months to the point of it being at it's worst now, so that says to me that there must be something they can do to fix it and get it running like it was or even fix it altogether would be better as I don't know of any other game that does this !!


    !! Thanks again for the info & I Hope to see ya on the tracks sometime !!
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    Originally Posted by ChemicalD Go to original post
    Information tsunami Thank you sir, i have my work cut out for me.
    I hope it was not to much, but hey, if you manage it all - you're in control of you phone

    Originally Posted by FatalDragon69 Go to original post
    Alright Fevves, it HAS been long time no-see, how are ya mate !?

    Good to see that you're still knocking about around here from time to time, also glad to see you're still playing as I've noticed your LB scores are still changing as well !!
    Yea, I'm quite fine, but my scores are going down and not up as I play only on occasion and I'm not chasing top 100 scores anymore.

    Anyway, thanks for your reply only I've never rooted my phones and to be honest I wouldn't know where to start with it all otherwise I might have a try of what you said to try and get rid of this pesky speed-up/down issue, although as I mentioned before, I've found that if I play outside when I go for a smoke I can play for a LOT longer (pretty much as long as I want really) due to it being colder and windy thus keeping my device cooler where-as if I play inside I can literally only play for about 20-30mins MAX if I'm lucky then it gets hot and unplayable !!

    It never used to be as bad as it is now though, I'd say that it's slowly got worse and worse over the past 8-10months to the point of it being at it's worst now, so that says to me that there must be something they can do to fix it and get it running like it was or even fix it altogether would be better as I don't know of any other game that does this !!


    !! Thanks again for the info & I Hope to see ya on the tracks sometime !!
    I was yelling this out loud on few occasions: the game is not optimized, at least it's not optimized well for Android phones and there's nothing we can do about this. Adding to that... phones with some restrictive thermal throttling are experiencing lots of hustle re performance, And you get the overall crappy performance in the end...

    As from where to start: XDA Forums is the best place for that.

    Cheers!
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    Well I'm glad you haven't completely left us, unfortunately we all have things that restrict our playing habits from time to time.....Keep on riding though mate !!

    I remember your previous posts about this a while back but the Devs never listen when it's something important, so I might have to look into rooting my phone at some point (cheers for the recommendation) I had heard about the XDA Forums before just never thought I'd have the need to root my phone but if the game continues to get worse at the rate it has been, then I'll have to root it pretty soon !!


    Anyway, Thanks again mate, Always good to hear from ya, Take care !!
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    I just got an Android turbo 2, and here recently the more complicated tracks lag all the time. It is not rooted my new phone, but I only have trials frontier on it. No other apps. My turbo 1 I was using a week ago wasn't rooted and set up very similarly almost never lagged but a few days ago started lagging on that too. ?? Neither device get very hot, and I have tried all kinds of remedies to no avail. Ugh
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    I truly don't believe it's my phone causing the lag
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    For example,. Casino rooftop at the beginning when you jump the saw blade off the back tire, that whole area goes nuts. But is not consistent. Alot of tracks that have many moving parts or require alot of varied maneuvers to negotiate lag the worst.
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