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  1. #31
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    Well this is the gaming community I'd like to be in
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    Originally Posted by TheNoobZMaster Go to original post
    Usually the sounds come directly where they were produced from, but here the game actually calculates, which materials conduct sound and which don't, and then approximates how does the sound reach you.
    So, basically after calculating material sound conduction... the sound may or may not come directly where they were produced from.
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  3. #33
    Originally Posted by SNAKES SH4DOW Go to original post
    Wow. !

    Firstly, i would just like to thank everyone that replied to this post. I do appreciate all your feed back
    as it now gives me a direction to head in, positive and negative is always welcomed.

    I have taken the time to read ALL your replies as ive found them all helpful.

    I will say, after that, i think i will start on the following

    * Steelseries Siberia V2,
    * Turtle Beach XO One
    * Kingston Hyper X Cloud
    * Turtle Beach - Ear Force Stealth 500X 7.1


    The sennheiser 363D is a little bit out of my preferred price range tho, for the level of gaming Im at. I would have to be truly convince, although i dont doubt they arent good but i do think i could be satisfied on something that would be a little bit cheaper.

    Also, those of you that mentioned 7.1, its a valid point, makes sense, so ill bear that in mind while choosing,

    But lastly, just wanted to say thank you to oO_ShadowFox_Oo

    What you said about training your ears makes good sense also, really helpful what you said there. will definitely take that onboard and focus on that when playing

    Ill let you guys know what i get and how it goes once ive picked up something

    thanks again, responses was great

    Hey Snake

    I just recently purchased the XO Ones and thought I'd pass along my initial thoughts. They are pretty good construction - they are primarily plastic, but I don't tend to throw my headphones off, or leave them where someone will step on them etc so I think they should be durable enough. As far as fit, the ear cups are meant to be on ear - I personally tend to prefer over the ear as it causes less hot spots on the/around the ear - but still pretty comfy.

    The biggest con from me is that they just don't seem to get loud enough. Also, with the audio controller, the volume adjustment for the game and chat is not independent of one another - basically, you turn the game down to hear the chat better or vice versa. I find myself kind of fiddling around with it much more than I want to adjust for other people that are screaming in the mic, talk loudly etc. It would be nice if these levels that could be set independently of one another. The bass boost to me, is sort of gimmicky. It does have settings for off/low/high but bass boost can disrupt game play especially for siege which is so reliant on the sound mechanics.

    So far I like them, but I am also considering taking them back to Best Buy and just paying another $20 to try the XO Four Stealths to see if those are any better - but your mileage may vary!

    Hope that helps!
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    Originally Posted by mkeebler Go to original post
    So, basically after calculating material sound conduction... the sound may or may not come directly where they were produced from.
    Depends on the wall's thickness and sound source's proximity to you.
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  5. #35
    I normally use HD580's and Mistral HP-509 on my PC.. and even tested with hd800's and MHA100 and still have issues with pinpointing location.. so even with a $4,000 setup your still not going to get much better sound then the $60 can's from Best Buy.
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  6. #36
    This may be a bit on the high end, and it's not technically a headset, but I highly recommend Sennheiser RS 180 wireless headphones. They have a lossless compression transmitter with much better reception and range than most IR USB solutions. I have a the official Sony wireless headset for PS4, so my best comparison is between the 2, and the RS 180 is so much better. Both are very comfortable, but the RS 180 sounds better, never has the occasional crackle from the PS4 headset, and I can go to the bathroom without losing any reception whatsoever, while the PS4 headset starts to crackle at that short range and through the walls. It's by far the best set of headphones I've ever used.

    That being said, I got them on sale for $200, and I got the PS4 headset with built-in mic for $70. Once you add in the $40 I paid for my Blue Snowball desk mic, we're talking a jump from $70 to $240 for the total setup, so it's not cheap whatsoever. The PS4 headset was clearly the better value, but my PC setup blows it out of the water, even though both are very nice.

    There is also a newer version of the RS 180, I believe it's called the RS 200, that is digital instead of analog, but when it came out, the initial reviews complained that not only was it much more expensive, but it was very unreliable and likely to break early. Of course, that was immediately upon release (which was right when I bought my RS 180, hence the sale), so things might be better now, but it sounds like you were planning on using the 3.5mm analog stereo jack anyway, so the RS 180 would work just fine.

    I personally tend to stay away from surround sound. I'm not against it, but until there is a widely accepted standard of performance and connection interface, I won't bother, and unfortunately, it's taking longer than I would have expected. As someone pointed out earlier, many of the cheaper surround sound headphones are not true surround sound, although they may help somewhat. Even the true ones depend upon the system being able to produce proper surround sound, and my understanding is that built-in surround sound on most motherboards is still not that good. I think if you want truly modern surround sound, you would need to get a dedicated sound card and a proper surround speaker system installed in optimal locations around your work. We're talking a lot more money and hassle. I don't know your budget, so it may be what you want, but for my purposes, the RS 180 with a desk mic was a great splurge for my PC gaming, and the Sony PS4 wireless headset was a great value purchase of a quality peripheral for my console gaming, and I don't hesitate to recommend either one.
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  7. #37
    Location based sound through stereo is difficult. I think by trying to implement a more advanced sound system they have actually taken it backwards. Stereo can's will not act like a human ear therefore there must be adjustments so that the system works for identifying location.

    For example if your sitting in a square cinder block room with one door.. is ALL the sound going to come through that door? no, MOST of it will, but you will still hear muffled sound through the cinderblocks with delay coming through the door allowing someone to unconsciously identify the sound as coming from the other side of the cinderblocks.
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    Astro A40TR and I love them, although there are cheaper alternatives. I was playing with the surround on and read a suggestion that it's best in stereo, I now also agree that sounds seem esier to pinpoint in stereo mode.
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  9. #39
    I have been using Z60 Turtle beach, seem to do the job just fine jack plug direct into adapter works just fine and on the plus side as their PC you now have a working set for both uses.

    Update: i figured since i had an issue figuring out volume on these i would let you know, the left side of adapter seems to power game volum up and down on z60's right side powers volume for chat yes i know thats not what it is supposed to do according to adapter but i guess thats a side affect of using PC TB's on xbox other than that they work perfectly fine.
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  10. #40
    I bought Asus Strix 7.1 digital specifically for this game. The situational awareness it gives me is like night and day. Before I've used Audio-Technica M50x and Logitec G430s for virtual 7.1 - but the best by far is from the 'real' 7.1 I get from the Asus Strix. Can hear people moving about with extreme accuracy, like it's real life. It telegraphs people's positions so well it's like a wall hack.
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