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I can easily say Ubisoft is my favorite developer I have been a fan since the old school Rainbow six games that were tactics focused then Splinter cell and now with Siege and the Division and for Honor I don't see them being dethroned as my top developer for a while to come. That said one of the reasons I enjoy their games is that they have explored a variety of different locals and cultures in their games as well as innovation in their combat system that pushes the average rehash that the majority of multiplayer sees into a new iteration of cool. From the reinvention of stealth action and multiplayer in Splinter cell to the grapple mechanics and now breach mechanics in Rainbow six games they have always took the norm and flipped it enough to make it fresh and innovative I have high hopes they will do the same in For Honor and the Division.

*** kissing is over now onto my requests...

1. I know they are trying to get people to warm up to their Uplay service but I am a steam for life kinda guy so please just get For Honor onto steam so I can preorder it already

2. Get someone to evaluate your server structure in the America's Siege is buggy as all hell it feels like there is a bug where you will load into a game forever and your only option is to cancel out of a game and rejoin another this needs fixed. I really don't want to see this carry over into the Division or For honor...

3. Please evaluate Siege, The Division and For Honor for elements as they relate to E-Sports. I want to see the communities to these games thrive and getting tools to allow spectating and clip recording into the game will allow the multiplayer to grow.

4.The division end game needs Raids and single player content in the PVE and options for single players within the multiplayer zones so please think ahead to provide balance that allows for these things. I have played almost every MMO on the market and I can say that not having all the bases covered from word go is the easiest way to kill these kind of games.

5. I want to see more cultures in For Honor and your other new games. Just how Farcry 4 took me to a different world and the assassin creed games take me to different ages I want some options in these new games. My biggest gripe with For honor is how generic the choices were for the 3 starter classes...Samurai Viking and Knight....ok...There are so many epic cultural Icons that could be represented The famed American Indian warriors that were said to be such bad asses they ran barefoot for 60-100 miles in a day while tracking prey and human targets, The Aztec , Egyptian, Spartans, Chinese from the Romance of the 3 kingdoms era, Zulu Warriors, Monguls...there are so many famous cultural iconic warriors and many fringe lesser known ones I would appreciate a variety on offer not just the 3 flavors of weeabo fanboyishness reflected in the game...Give me the option to make myself like in Mass effect at the very least. but show me you are the diverse studio I know you are the historically reimagined fiction you weave into alot of your games makes them fresh so don't stop going with that. Diversity is key in not making things feel generic and boring.

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2. Get someone to evaluate your server structure in the America's Siege is buggy as all hell it feels like there is a bug where you will load into a game forever and your only option is to cancel out of a game and rejoin another this needs fixed. I really don't want to see this carry over into the Division or For honor...

Didn't play Siege, but I really think For Honor, being melee focused, would benefit more than other games from dedicated servers.

3. Please evaluate Siege, The Division and For Honor for elements as they relate to E-Sports. I want to see the communities to these games thrive and getting tools to allow spectating and clip recording into the game will allow the multiplayer to grow.

E-sports scenes have more to do with the size of the audience willing to watch them than it does the game developers, though I do agree that things like a 'watch replay' feature (possibly shareable) would be nice. That being said, there are a couple of threads asking about E-sports with a lot of positive feedback, so, presuming the game has enough staying power (and given the fact that there's so much excitement over two classes and one map, I'll assume it does), I suspect there will be an at least moderately large audience for it.

5. I want to see more cultures in For Honor and your other new games. Just how Farcry 4 took me to a different world and the assassin creed games take me to different ages I want some options in these new games. My biggest gripe with For honor is how generic the choices were for the 3 starter classes...Samurai Viking and Knight....ok...There are so many epic cultural Icons that could be represented The famed American Indian warriors that were said to be such bad asses they ran barefoot for 60-100 miles in a day while tracking prey and human targets, The Aztec , Egyptian, Spartans, Chinese from the Romance of the 3 kingdoms era, Zulu Warriors, Monguls...there are so many famous cultural iconic warriors and many fringe lesser known ones I would appreciate a variety on offer not just the 3 flavors of weeabo fanboyishness reflected in the game...Give me the option to make myself like in Mass effect at the very least. but show me you are the diverse studio I know you are the historically reimagined fiction you weave into alot of your games makes them fresh so don't stop going with that. Diversity is key in not making things feel generic and boring.

Just going to copy/paste what I said over HERE and will probably do so from now on if new threads pop up, since it expresses my thoughts the most succinctly and has links to more detailed arguments, and it's easier than typing everything all over again (unless an actual new argument is presented).

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More warrior from more cultures sounds awesome, although personally I'd prefer if they didn't add them as new factions for a couple of reasons.

1. As of right now you're only able to play as one faction per team. That is, you can't have two chosen and two legionnaires. That means that if we have 5+ factions the playerbase will be really divided and there'll be a high risk of friends not being able to play with each other using their favorite characters.

2. Since each faction need to have enough characters and diveristy to account for a four man team, that means each faction will take considerably more development time to bring to us, not to mention lots of cool historical warriors who only uses a few iconic weapons will have a hard time making it into the game since there isn't enough diversity to justify an entire faction.

I'd much prefer if new warriors either are "stand-alone" and able to chose a faction to join (i.e. available for all factions), or tacked onto an existing faction, mercenary style.

All of this expresses my thoughts, but that bolded bit is the biggest reason I don't think it's really a good idea to make entirely new factions. The proposal to have new warriors added to existing factions is something I brought up over HERE, and I think that would be the best option for adding cultures; and if not as mercenaries, then as the result of alliances, even if they're shaky.

Native Americans

This would be the major exception. I think anything dealing with indigenous American cultures would work better as a standalone and completely separate expansion---similar to Battlefield Bad Company 2's Vietnam expansion---both because, from a realism standpoint, there's no way warriors wearing, at most, wooden breastplates and animal hides would be able to stand toe-to-toe with one in full plate, and, because you could get really in depth with the cultures---Maya, Aztec, Sioux, Apache, Blackfoot, etc. etc. (probably combining some, through an alliance system, or grouping them via geography [plains, plateau, jungle])---and avoid the vague stereotypes we usually get in media.