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    First off, that's more than a "little" stretch.

    I have already addressed this topic with you previously in this thread a couple different ways and at this point I feel that it is pulling the conversation too far off topic.

    The truth is there are still people building tracks and sharing them. There are still players joining multiplayer games and progressing, making use of the new season structure. Assuming that RedLynx is somehow being unrealistic about our player base and the activity within Trials Fusion couldn't be more misguided. Also assuming that anything we do with Trials Fusion somehow has anything to do with the future of games coming from RedLynx is pretty misguided. RedLynx has grown into a much larger studio than the early days. I've read through your posts in this thread and am having a hard time finding something you've stated that was anything more than an assumption, with some contradictions sprinkled in.

    Now if you want to have a discussion about your interests and concerns, by all means, start a thread. My job is not to simply voice positive things in the forums blindly but to engage in conversation with you all, as a community, for the sake of expressing your interests and concerns to the team. If you want to attempt to guide the conversation in a different direction, a new thread would be best for everyone, not least of which, the people who are here actually looking for cross platform information. Derailing this thread simply to repeat your point is not the way to go about this.

    I see what is happening here, however, and I just want you to understand that you might have missed the mark.
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    So... is this still going to happen?

    I was cautiously optimistic about Unifying TC. We were told that retro uploads would start immediately but I don't think I've seen any to date.

    Also, I uploaded a track to TC on Sunday morning and no other platform has it as of today (4pm on Thursday).

    Would you please provide an update and tell us when we can expect to see functioning xplat TC again, and when/if we will be able to see retro uploads?

    I have been dying to see my friends on other platforms try my tracks.

    Thanks guys
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    Originally Posted by VEGASTRASH Go to original post
    It's late in the life of the game, so this all makes sense...the updates to me still don't...but I'm all for the game being as good as it can. It's disheartening to know there is no new Trials for 2016.
    I'm not quite sure what doesn't make sense? They're supporting a game that's out now with a minimal amount of resources, it's not like they're devoting all of their resources to this game. Regardless of whether a new Trials game is cooking or not, I doubt the support Fusion is getting has any bearing on it. They are working on other things and even if it involves Trials they aren't going to be telling anybody here soon. As for everything you've mentioned above about active player numbers, player retention etc...they know it better than anybody here so I don't see the point of bringing it up as they're not going to give the answers you want. As for no new Trials game in 2016, I'm not surprised, Trials is a more ambitious undertaking these days. Also maybe consider that RedLynx may want to grow beyond Trials. Just my 0.2 cents.
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    Originally Posted by Jtrunn84 Go to original post
    So... is this still going to happen?

    I was cautiously optimistic about Unifying TC. We were told that retro uploads would start immediately but I don't think I've seen any to date.

    Also, I uploaded a track to TC on Sunday morning and no other platform has it as of today (4pm on Thursday).

    Would you please provide an update and tell us when we can expect to see functioning xplat TC again, and when/if we will be able to see retro uploads?

    I have been dying to see my friends on other platforms try my tracks.

    Thanks guys
    We have had some issues it seems with the immediate cross platform of new tracks. We're working on it, but for a more specific answer, let me get back to you after a proper update on the issue from the team. This thread would be the best bet to keep an eye on and I'll update you all as soon as possible.

    (Also, just to be safe, be sure to search for the track by the track name as the creator will show as FusionShared if the creator is not on that platform.)
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    Dont take Vagastras as negative , its a positive thing he is sore at no new trials game. just shows the drug you was pushing worked. Maybe if we all knew whats happening , instead of just knowing there aint no new trials game then it could brighten the room a little. I am getting alittle bored of building with the same material so come on guys , new objects ?

    Anychance of ever being able to gain data from your tracks on other platforms

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    Originally Posted by funktastic- Go to original post
    Dont take Vagastras as negative , its a positive thing he is sore at no new trials game. just shows the drug you was pushing worked. Maybe if we all knew whats happening , instead of just knowing there aint no new trials game then it could brighten the room a little. I am getting alittle bored of building with the same material so come on guys , new objects ?

    Anychance of ever being able to gain data from your tracks on other platforms

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    Hello Funk,

    The problem is not in being negative, it's in assuming things without information and spreading it as reliable/smart thoughts. As long as he's not able to say how many monthly active users Trials Fusion has, I don't see why he keeps insisting. D2Dahaka summed up very well my thoughts.

    There is no new object coming, it's one of the most expensive thing to do for the game and it wouldn't make sense to invest there now. Also, the objects are what is heavy in the build and each time we push an update, the cost of the bandwidth is problematic (it's huge). However, I think there are enough different objects to be able to build custom objects as you did in some of your tracks The question is not the variety of objects but the variety of how builders use them and you're quite good at it. Keep going ;-) Also, the different themes of the building competition help to bring variety. I am sure we will have a lot of great things from the community builders all along 2016.

    There is no chance for this game to gain data from your tracks on other platforms because this information is spread between servers and changes all the time However, we agree it's a problem and we will do our best to have another solution in a future game but we can't promise anything as we're not sure there would be a better way.

    Let us know if there is anything else you would like to have visibility on

    Cheers,
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    hi eno

    Oh yeah i agree there is already plenty of editor objects and many ways to use them and customize our own from what's there already, in the end it comes down to our own creativity and imagination , but like anything we all like new toys to play with and and with all the past dlc's came a feeling of excitement and on release we saw and massive increase in building. I didn't realise the limitations of these on bandwith and cost so that's cool there wont be anymore, everything has limitations i guess. Its shame we wont be seeing any but not a problem to stop my enjoyment.

    Sounds like its pretty much impossible for data to be collected then , again another shame but totally understandable why it cant be done. In many ways without visible knowledge of your builds on other platforms the crossplatform from a builders perspective could be seemed as pointless. After the initial first stage of the feature i feel without it actually increasing your visible downloads or having any data from it , it may just become an invisible feature when it is possibly the biggest feature next to mp that as happened to the game. One of the greatest things about this from a builders perspective is that we can build for many more people and have many more people play our builds but with no feedback or knowledge of this happening its like building a bike for your son and then not being able to see him ride it.

    Im totally for the crossplatform but just disappointed that such a valuable asset to it, is there but not being seen because in theory it is being played x 3 around the platforms and would wield about the same downloads as when a track was uploaded at the start of the game.

    redlynx could always buy everyone the other 2 platform consoles and the game ( it is crimbo after all )

    Yeah you couldnt share some light on this weeks lotto numbers could you
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    This topic heading needs to be changed to "Cross platform on TC, something we may follow up on in the next month...maybe".
    I'm still wondering why not one of the 7 new extreme tracks from over a month back ever made it to one MP playlist. Who actually oversees the implementation on this?
    The game should be free for a month on Ps4 to boost players. Maybe the best option.

    Eno, how many monthly players are on the ps4? Unless, it's top secret classified. I know how nda's can be. Having a counter on MP for current active players is something that seems logical.

    Funk, once cross platforming is properly carried out in a few months...just double the downloads as a good estimate. I'm sure pc players are a small fraction of the community.

    Me, let it go...it's over..haha
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    Don't get me wrong, but I do kind of agree that it is late in this game that it has come along but regardless of this now people have more tracks to play without buying a new console just to get trials for that game too, I know some of us have already done that, I came from 360 to X1 but now I don't have to buy a PS4 just to play the tracks now or wait for them to be cross platformed if they get in a UPlay Recommended feed, brilliant and top notch to RedLynx for doing so. As I said with the too late bit yes... it may seem it's too late as the numbers of people playing now is getting lower but this would of enticed a few people to come back also, but if it was done at the start then people will be enjoying more of a variety earlier than now.

    But here is where it will benefit for the next trials game, if they know that this works then they can do it for the next lot of trials games to come. Regardless of numbers that are here now, it is great that RedLynx are showing the support even if the numbers of players were low or high. I am grateful for it too as for the OTHG have the tracks to run for the HLC's too, brings us all together more as a community again too.
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    Agreed. This update is late, but it's cool. And they did it for us, core players.

    Why they worked on it instead of a new Trials? Simply because there will be no next Trials game (or before years). Stop dreaming.
    Proof is that RedLynx is already working on a different game. And after all those years, it seems natural for them to want to do something else. As a developper I could understant that.

    Anyway, cross plateform content nowaday is huge! Thank you RedLynx.
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