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[rdOptic]

this happens to me too even when my mic is muted and I don’t team kill or anything

[WBBCoop]

No, you clearly didn't or else you would have saw the "I just wish I could say WHAT it needed because this ain't it chief"
But hey, your a smart guy (maybe) why dontcha give us your suggestions for once? Ohhhh wait, that's because you don't want any change, shocking.
Got anything else to say or you just gonna spout your usual nonsense?

..But..I thought I did..?

Oh..that's right, I remember this type of conversation with you. There is no answer, there is only debate after debate. You like debates.

I don't want an argument, and there is really no argument. There is only facts. Just like the fact that there will be no Beta mode list, also there will be no changes in the VTK. It's just a fact. Anyone can argue against it, but it's going to be fruitless. I may be nonsensical...but at least I'm sane in the R6 reality.

[Nandoholic.DR]

Oh boy...

1&2- For me, the most common type of trolling is of the solo type. It doesn't matter if I'm playing alone or with groups(2-3-4), most of the time, it's only a single problematic individual. Sadly, they rarely leave on their own. Maybe you run into "duo" of trolls than I do but this doesn't make it "the most common scenario" for everyone. It's certainly not the case for me and from the look at other posts on this page, I'm not alone.

3-Beg your pardon? I never said such thing... ... but you seems to have a tendency to make it look like people are saying something they never did, at least on this page. Sadly, there's no easy solution for the "duo" of trolls but that doesn't mean that the vote to kick should be removed for the solo ones.

4-Wait, I'm a bit confused here, are you telling me you want to make it so people wouldn't be able to team up? Because if you're not saying that, what's the whole point of saying that? If troll are smart enough to realize the being in a duo gives them immunity from being kicked... shouldn't you be at least as smart as they are?

5-I agree, but there are implicit rules to this game, like not destroying your team mates gadgets on purpose, not giving their position away over text, etc.. , which is why the vote to kick system needs to stay in place, or that all too common solo troll scenario(that you are not experiencing) would become a nightmare.

So why, when i say the votekick system needs to go OR BE COMPLETELY OVERHAULED, capitalised for emphasis, are you here backing up on someone who's saying it needs to stay as it is.

Why does the argument keep changing from "its fine as it is" when people propose changes, to "nah its not fine but there's nothing else" when people point out why its not fine.
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[Morfanos]

So why, when i say the votekick system needs to go OR BE COMPLETELY OVERHAULED, capitalised for emphasis, are you here backing up on someone who's saying it needs to stay as it is.

Why does the argument keep changing from "its fine as it is" when people propose changes, to "nah its not fine but there's nothing else" when people point out why its not fine.
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Here's the problem, I agree with you that it would need to be improved or reworked but in all those years on the forums, I've come to the conclusion that it's a dead end. No one ever suggested a solid system to prevent abusing it while keeping it's original intent, that is, to remove problematic players.

So yeah, there's a reason why it keeps changing to "it's fine as it is" to "nah it's not fine but..."

Make it so you can only vote to kick when that person got some negative points(tk-destroying gadget, randomly shooting)? Run in front of him while he's firing, get close to one of his breaching charge with a drone, put a gadget near an electrified wall(if bandit), the list goes on. So no, this one wouldn't not work, too easy to exploit.

Make it so you can only vote to kick when that person give away your position to the enemy team in the text chat? Impossible to distinguish it from a friendly "GLHF" or any form of communication, it would mean not being able to use the text chat, so again ,not a good "trigger" for the vote to kick.

Make it so you can only vote to kick when that person insulted others or made noise in the voice chat? Again, impossible to tell if it's a callout or insulting(from the system point of view), people would stop talking just so they won't get kicked, it would basically promote not playing as a team. Not a good trigger for the system.

I could list more but I think you get the point.

If you have a good idea on how to modify it, go ahead. I just honestly haven't seen any of these on the forums.

It's not really that I want the "vote to kick" system. It's more "I don't want to get stuck with someone toxic in a match for 30 minutes". I'm not backing coop specifically, we're two people who have spent a lot of time on these forums over the years and we both saw that nothing good has ever been proposer to replace or improve that system.

[WBBCoop]

It's not really that I want the "vote to kick" system. It's more "I don't want to get stuck with someone toxic in a match for 30 minutes". I'm not backing coop specifically, we're two people who have spent a lot of time on these forums over the years and we both saw that nothing good has ever been proposer to replace or improve that system.

It's a pickle to be sure. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. One simple thing that can create problems with one group, while at the same time can create problems for another group if it's not there.

Without a doubt, both of us would fully back any idea that could reduce the issues for everyone in one fowl swoop.

[a.ReDBalLOon]

no reason means no reason. these groups of friends get in and troll because they think it's funny. ubi had to implement party-wide reverse friendly fire because these incels would gang up on a random and tk them one after the next. the person kick often does nothing wrong other than not being in the group of super troll friends.

[Mike_Oxuge]

no reason means no reason. these groups of friends get in and troll because they think it's funny. ubi had to implement party-wide reverse friendly fire because these incels would gang up on a random and tk them one after the next. the person kick often does nothing wrong other than not being in the group of super troll friends.

Squad rff has to be the most unfair mechanic ever. Why should i be punished for something my squadmates did?
Yes i saw some people get kicked for not joining their recruit gang or whatever but i see a lot more toxic people kicked.

[UbiMorning]

Going to be closing this thread for going off topic.