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    S! All

    I can't decide! I'm so used to my MsFF1 and forcefeedback. I was looking at CH's line of stick, throttles, and pedals but I'm afraid I'll really miss feeling all the bumps and g forces feelings. I'm also afraid of buying a MsFF2 and have it break 2 months or 2 days after installing it. Send help!
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    S! All

    I can't decide! I'm so used to my MsFF1 and forcefeedback. I was looking at CH's line of stick, throttles, and pedals but I'm afraid I'll really miss feeling all the bumps and g forces feelings. I'm also afraid of buying a MsFF2 and have it break 2 months or 2 days after installing it. Send help!
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    Tully__'s Avatar Global Moderator
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    MS sticks seem to be quite reliable (for the price) but since they're no longer made there's no support for them. If you're set on FFB and you can still get them, maybe you should get two...

    On the other hand, a number of members here (though not all ) have reported not missing FFB when converting to the X-45, CH or Cougar sticks. Joysticks being a fairly subjective thing, none of us can tell you if you'll really miss FFB or not, you'll just have to find out for yourself.

    Do you have a friend who flies without FFB? Maybe you could arrange a few hours flying on someone else's setup to see whether you'll miss it too much...

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    I have two friends that fly with force feedback. I have another that flew with force feedback until he experienced the X-45. Now he misses it somewhat, but with all the X-45 offers, he's a happy pilot. Personally, I use the X-45. I've never experienced forced feedback in a stick so I really can't comment on the difference. I'll just say that I am very satisfied with the X-45. Good luck on your decison(s)! S!


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    I had a Logitech Strike Force 3D FFB stick (dont ever buy one) - then went for the X45.
    Though I did miss FFB a little bit, I missed the Twist-rudder more - man was I annoyed by the definite x-y feeling of the X45 stick... So I bought a Saitek cyborg evo beside it
    Using the throttle of the X45 now, stick only has surplus commands assigned to it and I still don't have FFB - don't miss it that much.


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    If you decide you don't need FFB, I have one of these;



    Logitech Freedom 2.4 Ghz Cordless
    * 10 buttons (18 commands when one button is assigned as a shift)
    * Smooth heavy metal throttle design
    * Twisty handle for rudder control
    * Cordless
    * $50.00-60.00 U.S.


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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LuckyNed:
    S! All

    I can't decide! I'm so used to my MsFF1 and forcefeedback. I was looking at CH's line of stick, throttles, and pedals but I'm afraid I'll really miss feeling all the bumps and g forces feelings. I'm also afraid of buying a MsFF2 and have it break 2 months or 2 days after installing it. Send help!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Hi LuckyNed,

    I've just upgraded from me old MS Precision 2 to a Saitek Cyborg force feedback.

    If I were you I'd have a good fondle of what you fancy in a local store and see what feels right. I nearly went for the X45 with hotas but the stick felt too clunky, too much definition on the centering and not enough smoothness for my liking.

    Now I have FFB I like it alot I'd go back to none FFB but it would have to be a brilliant non ffb stick for me to make the switch. The Cyborg ffb has twisty rudder and feels nice and smooth to use.

    I wouldn't buy a stick untill I've had a feel of it first hand if I were you. I bought a Thrustmaster without trying it about 5 years ago and it was the most god awful stick I ever used. Since then I always try before I buy.

    Good Luck!

    ~ Inadaze
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    I used a MSFFB2 for quite a long time and switched to a CH setup. I miss the FFB effects, but as was stated in an earlier post, I like the versatility and functionality of the additional controllers even more.

    Like Tully said though, it's subjective from one person to another. If you make a switch, get the best you can afford. Don't "settle" if you don't have to. You'll regret it if you do.



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