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  1. #1

    Спецназ

    - Rename the Russian special forces with the "Alpha" to "Vitiaz". Form and weapons corresponds to the special forces of internal troops of Russia

    Here is the "Alpha":



    It looks like the special forces of internal troops:


    - DP-27? Really? game about special forces of the 21st century and not about the Second World.

    - Visor on "Tachanka" helmet incorrect. In the photo above you can see it looks like a visor.
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    Army of 80s years

    Fully agree, ubisoft not know how use a web search?

    ...I leaving on my bear witch balalaika and bottle of vodka...
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    Do you really think that Russian spetsnaz look like that?

    Well, as always. 1:21 clearly visible sign "alpha" apparently they tried to copy it

    1. As a "uniform" is used the usual "hill" with camouflage inserts of different types. When operations in urban terrain "alpha" since ancient times often uses monochromatic black camouflage. Actually do almost all interior Ministry forces, which are participating in urban operations, and OMON and SOBR and not only in Russia. Alternatively, you may use plain "olive tree" (seen in SWAT FSKN), but for alpha this is noted.
    2. RP, but rather the DP? Yu kiding Mi?
    3. What is this antediluvian helmet (Mask-M) with a visor with a slit for the eyes without any protection? Such not being used, I didn't even see them. At special troops of FSB by the way there is generally some terrible helmets with 5th protection class (this is for a second armour-piercing bullet from the SVD fired from 10m). As they walked around the problem of energy transfer to the neck, followed by a thin breaking of the cervical vertebrae is unknown. "Alpha" in the late 80's uses a titanium helmet "Altyn". A paintball mask?! WAT?!

    I have a feeling the following. Took some special time of the Chechen wars, what is not understood and hardly could understand (a little bit below will explain why). Of course lapped up the "hill", any kind of camouflage (no desire to seek the exact name) and decided that it should look like "SWAT". About authenticity and so on. clearly not cared for and in an assault operation was hit by a guy in a hood and war paint, a hood and war paint Carl! So that's what I think the cause of all this. For Western consumers (and the game is designed first and foremost to him, let us not indulge in illusions) "spetsnaz" is a sort of separate kind of troops of which they know only from their to put it mildly not the right gear.

    Developers are no better. So they made "spetsnaz" as it showed them that Western gamers still won't know the difference, he never saw how "alpha" is really what it is, or even what "special forces" he does not understand". As a result, the difference between the special forces of the Ministry of interior, EXPLOSIVES, the Federal drug control service, the GRU of the General staff and so on. no one sees.
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    Tachanka, bears, vodka, balalaika

    Do you really think that Russian special forces armed with "Tachanka"? And why not machine gun "Maxim"? Why did not bow, crossbow not ?
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    Damn, what a nonsense, sorry for cursing the companions, but all of this, starting with their "call signs" to arms this is nonsense! What the **** machine gun of Degtyaryov in the 21st century? seriously? where as VAL? where "HEATHER", where CP-3 "WHIRLWIND", where the VSS VINTOREZ where AK-9, PP-19 "BIZON", where "CYPRESS"where are all the weapons that was specifically designed for combat at short distances and for special purpose units, where the **** is everyone ? Really would be handing them mosinka, PCA. revolver, a Molotov cocktail and forward for the Motherland! And the character's appearance?! in addition to the solid Fuse shame, the Americans as always in a super outfit and get our **** in anything and definitely in raspisanie under hohlomu face. I was generally interested how looks the modern equipment of the special forces of the Russian Federation, in my opinion no! Simmering in me.
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    Re: Спецназ

    Same problem with GSG9 unit in the game. In Siege they looks like German SEK:



    In Real World GSG9 look pretty Tacticool in their new Cry Precision uniforms:

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    "For us is important community opinion" -ubi
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    Yes and maybe given half a chance and a little patience, they will address this in the future.
    The game isn't even out yet, the whole guns and gear issue would be great to work out in a season pass ...just saying, UBI
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    Tachanka's helmet bothering me as well, but as far as I can see they allways do this. I mean, look For Honor, those armours are not exactly correct either.
    I think Kapakan uses an Vityaz which is almost the same as the Bizon, but with normal magazine. The VSS Vintorez is missing and it is the "biggest" problem for me because that weapon is my favourite. I hope that they will adding it soon with wood buttstock. I would like to see changeable camo patterns though.
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    I suggest some cool stuff for Spetsnaz:
    PSS (ПСС)(special self-loading pistol ) silent pistol or MSS "VUL" (or "Wool" in English), 6P28 - self-loading pistol, providing quiet and flameless firing range of up to 50 meters, The PSS uses a specially developed 7.6242mm necked round SP-4 (СП-4), the same as used for the OTs-38 Stechkin silent revolver. The cartridge contains an internal piston and a propelling charge, with the stem of the piston against the base of the bullet. On firing, the piston delivers enough impulse to project the bullet from the barrel to an effective range of 25 meters. The piston then seals the cartridge neck, preventing noise, smoke, or blast from escaping the barrel. 6-round magazine







    PP-2000, it has long been known in other games.







    The GM-94 is a pump action grenade launcher developed by the KBP design bureau for use by Russian special forces.

    The GM-94 is a short range weapon, allowing it to be used in close urban environments. With a minimum safe distance of only 10m, the GM-94 is well suited to close, room-to-room fighting. Its simple design and operation allows it to operate in dusty and dirty environments and even after being immersed in water.

    The launcher is capable of firing high explosive, frag, thermobaric, smoke and tear gas canisters, rubber slugs and other non-lethal payloads.









    The KS-23 is a Russian shotgun, although because it uses a rifled barrel it is officially designated by the Russian military as a carbine. KS stands for Karabin Spetsialniy, "Special Carbine". It is renowned for its large caliber, firing a 23 mm round, equating to 6.27 gauge using the British and American standards of shotgun gauges and approximately 4 gauge using the current European standards (based on the metric 'CIP' tables), making it the largest-bore shotgun in use today.

    The KS-23 was created with the capability to fire several different types of ammunition, listed below:

    "Shrapnel-10" (Шрапнель-10) buckshot round with 10-meter effective range
    "Shrapnel-25" (Шрапнель-25) buckshot round with 25-meter effective range
    "Barricade" (Баррикада) cartridge with solid steel projectile able to destroy the engine block of a car at up to 100 meters.
    "Volna" (Волна) - inert version of cartridge used for education and practice during training
    "Volna-R" (Волна-Р) cartridge with less-lethal rubber bullet
    "Strela-3" (Стрела-3) cartridge with less-lethal plastic bullet
    "Bird cherry-7" (Черёмуха-7) tear gas grenade with CN agent
    "Lilac-7" (Сирень-7) tear gas grenade with CS agent
    "Zvezda" (Звезда) flash-bang round
    PV-23 (ПВ-23) - blank (grenade launching) cartridge
    Later, two add-on muzzle mortars were produced, the 36 mm Nasadka-6 and 82 mm Nasadka-12, bringing with them several new ammunition types:

    Blank grenade launching cartridge to be used with muzzle mortars
    36 mm "Cheremukha-6" tear gas grenade
    82 mm "Cheremukha-12" "high-efficiency" tear gas grenade for use on open areas









    PS add spoiler, If you need photos from different angles, I can provide links.
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