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Hi everyone, Yes I know For Honor is not even available yet but I already think about For Honor 2 . Indeed when For Honor had been announced it was like a dream came true ! So I want to dream again. ( Forgive me for my english ..)
So I thought about something ( maybe you Will call me crazy and you will say it´s impossible ) it would be awesome if For Honor 2 was For Honor : LOTR. Now I'm going to explain why
- like Many people i think Lord of the Rings is just incredible and i'd love to have a game with the system of For Honor in this universe.
- in FH there is 3 factions and several classes per factions . So .. Imagine in FH : LOTR there Will be : men, elfs , dwarves , orcs , ourouk-ai and differents classes in theses factions ! The game would have a lot of "replayability" and a lot of fun.
- futhermore, the maps would be awesome ! Helm's deep, Minas Tirith, Osgiliath or Moria .. Imagine fight in these places with Orcs or elfs.
- the creation of a game mode in which you must do the battles of the movies . For example : you're an elf or a man and you must resist in helm's deep against the ourouks. Or you're an orc and you must take Minas tirith while you're fighting the Rohirim's charge .
- if such a game comes to life one day. There Will be the possibility to fight with heroes. But just Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas. In order to keep the Spirit of FH ( swords etc...) but even if you're a hero you Will not be " super-strong " . This way the heroes Will be advantaged but not a lot .
- and the game would change a little his gameplay in order to create 32v32 or 64v64 if it´s possible !! This will give the impressions of great battle like in the movies . And the mobs would be still here, for GIANTS battles. The PS4 ( i'm on PS4 ) could do such a performance .
So here was my idea. I know I imagine a lot of things but i like that. Ubisoft if you see this message I ask you PLEASE to do such a game in the future .
Tell me what you think about my idea. Thanks for reading
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Well, everyone loves LotR of course.
But the game you seem to want is not very close to forHonor. The Only similarities i see are the quasi-medieval enviroment and .... swords.
Aside from the LotR-Setting you are basically requesting the possibility of increased player cap and more hollywood-scale-epic-final-battle and less 1v1 (as have many others done in this forum)
But thats not how forHonor will work (of course thats just how i interpret what we have so far) :
We have seen in the gameplay videos, that theArtofBattle-Mechanics work beautifully in duelling situations. 2v1 situations also work for a while, and we can hope that 2v1 playability will increase with the players own skill or maybe some adjustments that the devs will do before the final version.
If 4 players are fighting at the same time in 2v2 situations, like we have witnessed, they will most likely form teams and intuitivly fight 2x1v1 (otherwise it would be 2v1 whith 1 person just hacking at the exposed backs of the 2 attacking the same guy, which they of course dont want).
Now, that will work as long as there is a low number of (non npc) fighters. In massive pvp battles however, it would just be complete chaos. Do you expect 20 players charging at each other at the helm's deep bridge to select a partner and skillfully duel him ? Nope, everyone will just buttonsmash and the players giong down will be the ones that 5 guys smash on simultaniously. And what makes the game unique - it's mechanics - wouldnt be of any importance.
So ForHonor is not only unlikely to become "just a LotR tribute" because its own concept stands solid enough and it doesnt has to buy the LotR stamp to sell.
So sorry to crush your dreams but i think Lord of forHonorings is not likly to happen
Maybe there could be DLCs to make it look LotRish but personaly i wouldnt want that. And it would cost ubi a lot to use the brand.
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Haha no argument from me. The game you describe is basically Lord of the Rings: Conquest all over again. (If you want you can go play that, it's just limited to AI now..) I wouldn't want it to really be For Honor 2 though. We've been suggesting lots For Honor style games, and I would love to see them come to life, but I agree that For Honor as they have made it IS strong enough to stand on it's own, and deserves to maintain it's own franchise, regardless of whatever spinoffs or alternate versions may appear along the way. I'm sure it's also true that there is licensing red tape which would get in the way of a LOTR version. I'm not totally sure who owns the rights to make LOTR games atm, but based off of what we've seen, I don't think that they could come up with anybody much better than these guys to give it to, so a fool's hope maybe...
It's an interesting argument that the player count needs to stay low in order to retain the high level dueling aspect that we're all so excited about. I'd like to think that's not true. It's undeniably true that it's more difficult to have an intense one on one duel if other people keep jumping in and attacking from other directions all the time, but I don't think that medieval battles were particularly known for being tightly structured and organized. It seems like if they're really going to be as authentic as possible, chaos is a necessary ingredient. One on one dueling situations are still going to happen, and if they have game modes with low player counts they will happen more easily, which is good. But I also want the large crazy battles where anything can happen. It will be chaotic for sure, but it will also be really fun. I don't think that it necessarily needs to degenerate into mindless button mashing either. Situations where you are outnumbered or surrounded are where the ability to evade or use the terrain to your advantage becomes really important so you don't get cornered. The ability to switch between numerous opponents quickly is also very important for situations like that so I hope that the lock-on isn't tooo sticky so that we can stay fluid and agile.
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Hey Cat-tooth!
There is nothing wrong with wanting the large, crazy Battle. Who doesn't love that ? It's more spectacular than the 1v1 encounter, for sure....
But ..........
the game can only be balanced in one mode. Either we get a game that focuses on the dueling thing, balances the mechanics for that purpose and brings in other things as far as that specific theme allows it OR we get a game that balances things out for the big battlefield.
Take RTS games for example (thats were i come from). In a game like starcraft, a 1v1 battle between all of the 3 races is almost perfectly balanced and all the units work they way they are supposed to work. Its a big esport thing. In 2v2 maps the game is still fun to play but a lot of things dont really work together. You couldn't do it on an esport scale. In 3v3 or 4v4 there is almost nothing left of the original rock,paper,scissors thing, its all about pumping out enough stuff and coordinating better than the other team. It is entertaining if you want to play with 4 friends but its just a lot of explosions and has very little to do with the skill a sc player who wants to ladder needs.
So if that is what you want, a "just for fun" mode without real competitive expectiations were 30 players can smash their armors in, i am with you. (Wont play it but if thats fun for some.. go ahead) . But if you think the mass battle is what for honor should go for, i have to disagree. In fact, i think it is dangerous to ask for it too often, otherwise the publisher could try to ask too much of the devs - enable both things - out of financial reasons. If they try, they could ruin it.
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Hmmm... Ok. I think you convinced me. I still want to think everything I said is true, but you have to walk before you can run. It's probably a good idea to make sure that's it's working really well on a small scale before you make it bigger, and I don't know exactly where they're at with things, but the last thing I want is to have them rushed or pushed into things they aren't ready for. Once it's solid, they're bound to push the limits of what they can do with it anyway. I can wait.
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Ever since I saw the reveal of For Honor in 2015, I was always thinking about how cool the idea would be if you managed to implement Lord of the Rings into the combat ascetic of For Honor. For the most part I Understand everything that everyone has said, and honestly I think it would be perfect to me at least if you managed to swap the soldier skins, battle maps and combat executions, just to simply fit the designs of Lord of the rings. Of course the thing that makes this game truly amazing is the combat, and how innovative it is to the players controlling the soldiers. Everything would remain the same, your dominion mode, your 1vs 1, 2vs2, and so on... save for the obvious inclusion that everyone you play as is just in the realm of Lotr...... Granted the biggest glaring issue is the fact of owning the rights to Lotr and how much it would take to get those rights.
Also Just because we don't know much about the campaign game play other than the two brief missions featuring knights and vikings......
Imagine how cool single player would be if For Honor's Single player, was Open world ..... Endless side mission involving three factions at war with one another as well as a main faction campaign that your character follows. Obviously this could be an idea for future sequels to come as well as My hopeful dream of seeing lord of the rings introduced to this new innovative style of combat.
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