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    FC5 Survey Location Analysis (sort of)

    Ok I'm pretty much new to this forum, but I wanted somewhere to put my thoughts on an increasingly popular series. With the African setting of FC2, the island setting of the early games (and FC3) and the most recent Himalayan environment, people want a desert or another snow locale, (although FC4 didn't have that much snow to be honest.) Of the locations on that infamous survey ubi did a while ago, only a couple are in line with the tone of the other more recent games, or at least what they try to be. PREPARE FOR WALLS OF TEXT

    Alaska and Surviving the Wilderness: In Far Cry 3 and 4, the trailers said each game would be a tough survival adventure where only the strongest survive. This is severely false for both games, as there are no obvious survival tactics aside from shooting animals who attack you and skinning them so you can go out of your way to shoot the bad guys. There's no frostbite in the Himalayas (Also why does Ajay wear the same outfit the entire game? He would freeze to death with that rolled up sleeve!), no venom sickness? from snakes or lasting injuries. If Ubisoft is going to market survival as a selling point, they can't confuse normal progression for it. Instead of using syringes as a stand-in for run of the mill health packs or power-ups, there needs to be more realism for the gritty and tough wilderness Ubi advertises. That being said, Alaska has many opportunities for survival and extreme limits. Dangerous animals such as Grizzly Bears, Cougars, Wolves and even Salmon Sharks are possible. However, this would miss a crucial part of the Far Cry formula, which includes dangerous human enemies. I don't know what sort of evil faction the player would fight, perhaps some alternate history where the Aleutian campaign of Ww2 was won by the Japanese and they've occupied most of Alaska. Could have some racism and wartime strife for the story. Even though I like that idea, it's pretty unlikely. Still, a lack of humans to fight with could turn this location into another generic early access survival game on Steam.

    Sci-Fi Setting: This would be pretty interesting. However, flying vehicles and more psychically interesting fauna and characters can keep this from being a re-skinned Far Cry 3 or 4. I see much more bizarre and unpredictable gameplay, to go hand-in hand with the alien set piece. Instead of the obvious machine gun weapons or the shotguns and sniper rifles, more options are needed. The Sci-fi genre really lends itself to creativity, and with the more goofy tone that the Far Cry series tends to have, this potential setting is very promising. A wide range of aliens environments is a good idea as well. Perhaps a new engine, not based on the dunia or CryEngine can change the recognizable terrain of Far Cry 3 and 4 to something entirely different. Floating islands or giant fungal forests. This could also include cities and urban locales, as the Far Cry series tends to have the motif of "small buildings in the forest" and the occasional small town. It may be a challenge to implement large urban areas for Far Cry, but it's a challenge Ubi is capable of completing.

    Vietnam War 1960s: I've never really seen an open world game based on an actual historical war. They are mostly linear levels with large amounts of enemies. This location would provide stunning landscapes and detail (hopefully). For a war that has veterans today, who remember its chaos and trauma, Ubisoft would take a big risk if they chose it. The occasional goofy tone of Far Cry will need to be sacrificed for a more realistic and darker mood, true to the war itself. Come to mention it, veterans of the Nepalese Civil War might find some problems with FC4, but I'm not exactly sure. No more strapping C4 to elephants or blindly shooting mortars at enemy outposts. With the guerrilla tactics and decisive planning of the Vietnam War, a game set during it would need careful strategy and highly intelligent enemies. There won't be a one man army who's indubitably going to win. INSTEAD, ubisoft could just make up a country set in southeast Asia with an oppressive regime the simple route. The vintage weapons of the 50s/ 1960s would make a fresh experience from the hightech SMG's and sniper rifles in FC3 and 4, not to mention the kick-*** Cambodian rock before the days of Pol Pot.

    Jungles of Peru: I like this location the most because it seems the most Far Cry-ish. The name seems to misleading people, who say they don't want another jungle setting. Peru has more than just jungles. There are river basins, rivers themselves, rocky coasts, temperate mountains, grasslands, and even deserts. Urban environments maybe fewer here, but they're still possible. Jungle ruins, Inca ruins in the mountains, coastal villages, caves and more. Dangerous animals are a common sight in the jungles and rivers, and who knows what lies on the coast. This could be a very diverse landscape, inhabited by diverse NPCs. Indigenous people, foreign loggers, illegal gold miners, cartel members, paramilitaries and corrupt police forces can all operate around the map. The real life paramilitaries F.A.R.C and E.L.N will probably serve as inspiration for the enemies, who are doing most of the drug smuggling in Peru, have been known to kidnap tourists and civilians. Hmmmmm, that's never been in a Far Cry game before. Either way, it would be pretty cool to pilot your own Narco-sub.

    Vampires: This is one of the most bizarre choices. I honestly don't see how this would work with all of the mechanics we've come to know from a Far Cry game. Do the vampires shoot guns too? Do the guns shoot wooden stakes? If the vampires don't bite you and instead shoot guns, they might as well be anyone. Vampire like monsters could be a creature or animal in a future Far Cry game, not an entire faction. Unless Ubisoft takes a drastic approach for FC5, gameplay wise, this idea just seems like entirely different game series. I would appreciate some nice horror influence or Gothic architecture, but that doesn't make a complete game for me

    Spaghetti Western: Another interesting choice. Like the vampire idea, this would require a slew of gameplay changes. The over the top action of the Far Cry games seems a tad out of place in the chivalrous cliches of the romanticized Wild West. And with a redesigned shooting mechanic, this could turn into another ubisoft published series, Call of Juarez. Or even worse, it could mimic a certain other open world Wild West game. Red Dead redemption was as in depth as I imagine the West in 1911, a good bunch of activities and side quests kept the game fun and detailed. I find the side quests in Far Cry 4 to be rather dull, in that they're non-existent. They only amount to challenges, outposts, and messing around. Thus, the only in depth interaction I had with any characters were the main ones, and even that was a stretch. The worlds in Rockstar games are always so alive, but with Far Cry, the civilians and side characters are very dull and one note. If Ubisoft wants to try this, they better try to exceed RDR but make something noticeably different, but recognizably Western. This just seems to risky to me.

    Zombie Outbreak: Many zombie games exist, and a few are open world, notably State of Decay and Dying Light. The survival theme I mentioned in the Alaska section applies here more than ever. Make the disease itself terrifying, not just the zombies. Have a player survival status or something along those lines. Be creative, Ubisoft, because you would not be the first to try this game type. An improved crafting system and randomly generating enemies (custom armor for bandits or zombies?) and vehicles mean that this could be a different experience each game instead of hitting the same slowing moving zombies over and over. That's what the whole point of Far Cry 4 was about, "where every second is a story." These stories would be unique in that they're post apocalyptic and horror influenced.

    Sequel to Blood Dragon: A lot of people don't see anything too ground breaking here, and to be honest, so do I. The novelty of Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon has faded, and although it was very funny to see the humor, I think it was card Ubisoft could only play once. For some reason these days, the media likes 80's references, but I find them kind of stale. That was what distinguished Blood Dragon from the base game, and even with a gameplay overhaul, the humor and 80's cheese would not be enough to disguise a potentially generic shooter.

    Mad Max Post Apocalypse: I love the post-apocalyptic scene. A lot of psychopathic cannibals wearing doll masks and hanging burnt corpses from an overpass is a welcome edition to any game, but this too would require a good deal of gameplay changes to be something visibly new. With the actual Mad Max game coming out Sept 1st, and the popular game RAGE, open world post-apoc. games are nothing new. With post-apocalyptic fiction, it seems it's either nuclear wasteland or no apocalypse at all. Ubisoft could try some other means of doomsday, perhaps a giant flood that raised the oceans by a hundred feet, with customizable scrap ships and armor (I am torturing myself with these ideas). Above all else, this game would need to be even more unpredictable than any other Far Cry game yet. No more obvious villains wearing red driving around unopposed. Role play would be a key feature to keep the world adaptive to your actions. Although, that seems more like another upcoming game that everyone is really excited for
    MAKE IT FRESH UBISOFT, NOT JUST THE SAME GAME WITH TWO HEADED BENGAL TIGERS OR THE ROYAL ARMY WITH FACE PAINT AND GAS MASKS

    Jurassic Park Dino Adventure Yeah!: This one seems awesome, and I can definitely see it working, but I'm skeptical. What of the amazing stealth mechanics of the Far Cry games? Will you be able to do a take-down on a velociraptor? There would probably be human enemies too, but who would want to do anything with them? Most people would just want to hunt Dinosaurs with an RPG or have a dogfight with a pterodactyl in a gyrocopter. WIth heavy resilient dinosaurs, it would just narrow down gameplay styles. I'm not saying I don't want the tactical advantage of riding a T-Rex into a fortress while shooting goons with a buzzsaw. I just want more variety when I play. If this setting is chosen, the dinosaurs had better not have feathers. Paleontology ruined my childhood drawings.

    Shangri Lah: There isn't much left to say about this. It served as an allegory to Far Cry's story and Ajay. It wrapped up its story and that was that. HOWEVER, a more ancient or medieval Far Cry could be interesting with swords, bows and RPG elements.

    If you made it to the end of this post, you are a champ. Let me know what you think.
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    I really like your ideas, especially the sequel to Blood Dragon. I know lots of others in the company would love to see that too but I personally have no control over what games the devs make. But know I am crossing my fingers right there with you!!
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    Originally Posted by UbiBooma Go to original post
    I really like your ideas, especially the sequel to Blood Dragon. I know lots of others in the company would love to see that too but I personally have no control over what games the devs make. But know I am crossing my fingers right there with you!!
    UbiBooma can you say if ANYTHING is in the pipeline to your knowledge for Far Cry 4? Obviously you probably can't be specific, but there's been no news recently on anything remotely far cry-ish and there was nothing at E3 specifically relating to the franchise (although lots of other great games coming from Ubi - I think far Cry fans are going to really enjoy Ghost Recon Wildlands).

    Throw us a bone mate!

    Thanks for any info
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    Originally Posted by jvarnes Go to original post
    UbiBooma can you say if ANYTHING is in the pipeline to your knowledge for Far Cry 4? Obviously you probably can't be specific, but there's been no news recently on anything remotely far cry-ish and there was nothing at E3 specifically relating to the franchise (although lots of other great games coming from Ubi - I think far Cry fans are going to really enjoy Ghost Recon Wildlands).

    Throw us a bone mate!

    Thanks for any info

    We have no information regarding Far Cry at this time. Thanks for understanding!
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    Aaah, sorry I didn't see this before jvarnes. What xMISTY said.
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