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I prefer the 5-star ratings. My main problem with the rating system is that it somehow combines the number of downloads to the ratio of upvotes/downvotes. So if you get 400 people to download a track, and only 5 people can finish the track and all 5 people upvote it, that track is guaranteed to be at the top of the list, pushing better tracks down. In my early Fusion days, I would often download a "hard" track with high ratings at the top of the list, then start playing only to find it's a ninja track that only 12 people have finished. I feel I got click-bated, as did many others and that's the only reason it's highly rated. I doubt all those people who downloaded it really wanted to play it when they found out what it was, and their download contributes to the high rating.
This is my impression, it's probably a lot more complicated than that 
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hi stooksman
Yeah the amount of people downloading tracks does matter , not sure how much tho but it does matter a fare bit in the conditions that u are speaking of. To be honest im not sure why the amount of downloads should play even a small part in any calculations has like you say its not really anything to do with the quality or views on what a track is like. There is an advantage for this like what you speak of , a track that has less like can still be above a track that has more likes even if the dislikes are the same. This i agree is somewhat not right in the perception of quality The only reason i can imagine they use this is to balance out the closest of tracks and put one before the other so to speak. I would also have thought they would have spent alot of time working the system out and would think there is some positive point to doing this although i my self cant see it either but i guess there must be one.
If they still kept the system they have now but gave it another system as well like ratings about the tracks like the star rating but made sure that this system would not interfere with any calculations and it be there for discriptions matter only then i think this would help. Thy could do this in any update , as its not actually interffering with any calculations so would not set anything upside down , but would give builders and riders a guide to what the track is like.
cheers for the responses people , just like to point out that the system now i would imagine is in place because of mass calulations and hard work from people who sort it out and it may be the best option so it is aprreciated even tho there is things i dont agree about it..
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Bloody morons have done it again , all night it gained over 100 odd likes and only 2 disslikes then bam today in the space of 6 downloads 7 mins it suddenly gained anothger 4 disslikes. Whats the point in this game if this is allowed to happen. why build for a game that supports people downgrading tracks for no good reason. I can see why people build junk , no point in putting any effort into a track for gamers to play. Might as well join the floating shelves and half an hour junk.
Everytime i upload a track , im fed up with it , no idea why a game supports this type of behaviour.
at the same time my other track that is still on tc gained the exact same in the exact same time frame , this is beyond a joke and something should be done about it if this game wants to keep builders who actually try to build decent tracks. Before long track central is going to be just a junk yard of garbage because there aint no point in spending time on a track no point at all , its not an ejoyable experience after , whatching it be ripped in half. bloody sick of it.
sorry im just well annoyed , track after track after track , and have had it
Ok i proberbly shouldn't use terms like " this game " or things that maybe point fingers but was just trying to explain and show how frustrated i am with this happening every time. Its becoming to much of an bad point in when its time to put my tracks up that i really am starting to wonder why should anyone bother creating for others. Our selves just the enjoyment of building , of course this is without question but people can only take so much before they start to feel like its pointless.
i guess i create to much and spend to much time , yes i love it but still dont really enjoy being bombarded for no reason on a continuous bases.I know im having a moaning again about this but just is begining to take its toll , and really just speaking out loud then expecting any replies.
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i usually try to "dismiss" the dislikes with trying to have the mentality "didn't build the track for this guy and i don't really care what he has to say" since there isn't any feedback mechanic ingame it's impossible for me to know sometimes why people disliked my track. if i like the track i build and my friends liked it too then that's really all that matters to me. in other hand the pc tc is so empty and you basicly have to have 0 dislike track to get to the top. impossible task most of the time so i'm not really going for it.
i don't even know if any of that makes any sense
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I think i got what you mean bud , i try to do the same and dismiss them and sometimes take a postivie look but when it happens on every track you create it starts to grate on you and with me builidng 80+ once a week atleast ( i dont sleep well )
Im just having a rant bud , just really is starting to make me wonder if i am enjoying this game , i dont when fools are given tools to do this type of work in a judge mental enviroment. The most annoying point about this is i know a few are extreme builders , and they do this thinking people cant do the same in return. I personely would like to be able to vote an extreme even if i cant clear it , i take decor as a big part of if i like a track or not so i can judge the track on that but my opinions and ways i choose to vote are limited with rules.
One of the biggest annoying factors is that they say this is fair yet how can it be when extreme builders are downgrading a builders track yet the builder of the disliked track 70% of the time cant go and vote on thier extreme track. This to me is not fair , this too me is giving a tool like the dislike to some people and not others. Its saying you type of builders who are skilled in extremes have this power but you people who arent skilled dont have the power to vote an extreme. If tracks were based on guidelines then yes this would be fair as you should have to be able to complete the track. But because thier is no guidelines and people dislike a track for many reason being its free to choose. The i my self would like to vote on extremes , not for the dls but for the decor and effor involved but this is somewhat governed by rules for people like my self.
anyways bud cheers for the response just ignore , me im just ranting , thinking out loud.
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They are still doing it even to a point they are going down track central side by side , how obvious can you get, and seriously i cant build under these conditions hahahah joking of course
Seems this game wants to give extreme builders a tool to kill tracks and also say to them " but dont worry they cant vote on ur tracks so ur tracks are safe ".
i want to vote on these people extremes and my skill level shouldnt play apart of if i can or cant. they are disliking my tracks i should have the right to use my free choice on thiers , why cant i ?
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The best advice here is....stop building. You aren't getting much enjoyment out of it. Pick up juggling or something. There are other things in life other than Trials...
Do you actually think a thread is going to change the nature of track central? It's 16 months into the game. I'm surprised tracks even get 1000 downloads.
Even if the track is voted down early for kicks...it will only affect the downloads by 100 or so. What's the difference?
Remember, nobody told you to spend 80hrs on a track. is getting another 100 downloads going to change much?
I know the initial post is regarding people disliking for the sake of knocking a track down...but you're probably talking about kids. There is no fixing it. Just approach it from the stand point of...what am I getting of this? Then join a bowling league.
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Lmao dam you make me laugh bud.
Your not serious about only 100 are you ? , if your track is up in the top 2 lines you looking at 500+ if it is where they are now around 7th line i think then your talking maybe 200 likes if that , there a pattern with alot of my tracks that this fits into. There more chance me changing into a women than them changing anything that doesnt suit the priority of what they want. I guess it does my sweed in that a game actually supports its half hour tracks and people who doodle rather than support people who provide track central with atleast decent tracks to ride. I dont get this , dont get while people make every effort to provide people with decent tracks so they return each week or daily the game its self supports the garbage and give them tools to discredit and belittle other peoples work for thier own gain
Dont build is exactly my point , i agree and if many think the same then the game will die possibily already has if last month has anything to go on. Unless they want a scrap book of a trials game. I also agree nobody makes anyone build or makes an effort in thier building but isnt that what a game should promote. The game at the minuet promotes as you say " dont bother building ". or just make a pile of chunk , stick it in track central , label it either extreme or whatever and bingo , ur riding higher than rolling stones where on a gig
Just bloody annoyed at how these morons can just kill ya track , i think itdoes matter and very rarely can u gain anything back , with the low download rate being it late on in the game.
Anyway off to pick up my bowling ball , reckon i should get my slipper on tooo.. thinking of signing off for a few weeks. Long walk with the dog
have a good one bud
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You have to also realize...since the beginning of track central on Evo...95% of uploads are straight horrid. It's nothing new. The ps4 is even worse. I can count creators who actually try on one hand.
Add another 2 years to your war cries, and you'll see where I'm coming from. TC needs a moderator, just like a forum. It would improve the overall quality of builds. Anything could be uploaded, but to be in the verified track section, you adhere to guidelines. It's actual a very simple thing to do. Some people love on TC, so finding a few mods for free would be easy...guaranteed.
I've talked about this years back, so it's funny to hear about it now.
Maybe try stamp collecting? I know it's enjoyable to create...so that's your dilemma. At this point, I would literally limit your hours per build. If the track does well...great, if not...no big deal. It's when you invest a ton of hours into a build is where it tends to be irritating. Sure we create for ourselves first, but getting some mileage out of a decent build....there's nothing wrong with wanting that.
i noticed you cut down on animations for the last build. I thought the look was solid, but it had one issue midway with a fail zone atop the bones. I'm not sure if was intentional, but I could see someone disliking on that. Most good tracks have a 10% dislike. If yours get a bunch early...it should pan out either way. Just reupload if it does really poor....simple. Most don't do this, but I could care less...haha. I haven't done that on this, other than true variations of the build.
Remember...look up stamp collecting or playing ping pong with yourself. Forrest Gump style.
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oh yeah bud totally know that theres things wrong with my tracks , not daft to think they are perfect , but taking that into account they still got to be more enjoyable then some of the floating objects , editor decor uploads and more or less half hour builds. So this being that tracks like this are above tracks that do offer more on every scale has to show that track central and the voting system is a farce.
Saying that i would like to apologise to people if my ranting has been alittle annoying , wasnt my intention but pure frustration , agreed mainly becuase of time spent in this game. I guess your right trashman the only way to not get frustrated is to just not invest anytime at all into the game. Could i get enjoyment out of the game by just creating a few hours builds ? Most deffo i also guess that i could just create no dlc tracks lets say one a day and have all these ride the top lane of track central.
Just wanted a system to be fair and work , cant see to much wrong with that , but like i say , to al and to the dev team i didnt mean to go off moaning , and yes thats what it was just pure frustration and a good old fashioned moan. My apologise if this offended anyone its not what i was intending.
