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What do you mean by targeting your tracks Funk? Down ratings?
Mate, everyone gets down ratings on a track, even the pros just out of despite and for the wrong reasons. Mine does too, even on my comp one I had less downloads than the other ones of my tracks, but it was an easy with the slight physics in bike change cause it is under water. I can see why some people didn't like it but I had to make it feel the way it was intended for speed running and challenge purposes too.
It got less than any of my tracks and had some errors but what track doesn't. Just carry on building and don't care what people are doing man. We all share the same kind of disheartening moments in Trials track building.Sod the haters.
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Yeah bud i know everyone gets it happen , but cant speak for others so i said my self but was meaning everyone really. Yeah i do have a few haters and after having this happen on a continuous bases i even narrowed it down to 5 names and theres 4 that do it early on. While this is to get thier own tracks at the top it has other bad things. One meaning that the actual downloads of the track is rapidly reduced because its placed low in the feeds and not always seen by the quick user. This at the moment reduces what is already a low download rate. We all build tracks for people to ride but if these tracks that have atleast something interesting about them or fun are not being promoted as track centrals best assets then this is bad for the game overall i think. Rishanas track was down the 4th line for a good while when infact without a question it should have been on the top. There is an argument that there could be things about it or any other track for that matter that are not liked but even if these are taken into account tracks like rishannas and so on are 150% more fun and enjoyable then the ones above it. This shows that track central as a whole is not working , track central is not being balanced on the quality of tracks but purly on how you can abuse the downgrade button. This in an enviroment where people spend over 100+ hours making a build for the whole community to play is somewhat an amateur based track central for this to happen. People should not be able to minipulate the system so easy when doing so will promote half rushed tracks ( more names for these but being polite ) to be the forefront of track central andthis game.
If i was a noob and went into track central , saw the top classed tracks of the week , i would not be inspired to build within this game. whats inspiring about empty spaces , tracks that you cant even play and doodles that have had about 3 hours if that spent on them. The game shoudl promote the better quality tracks , the fun and great ideas that some people come up with and its these that should always be at the top of track of the week so its these that are promoting the game. I reckon this game is loosing 30% of its builders or even more ( just a guess ) to the miss use of the dislike button and also people coming into track central and just not being inspired to want to create. They want to see , wow factor tracks , fun tracks , creative tracks and much much more. For a buisness to continue to have the lesser quality tracks dominate track central and promote thier game is in my opinion bad for buisness and really just makes no sense at all.
The way people canmake multiple accounts to dislike track multiple times is just bad , agreed this cant be changed but they need to do something about the amount of percent that the dislike holds. I think anyway but i guess they dont really care about builders who spen time and effort on tracks , guess if the kids and doodle free people are enjoying it then thats more profitable for them.
Just annoys me , what buisness has its lower skilled work on its front page ? at track of the week is where people go for the best. Just dont get it .
doesnt make sense at all. sorry for the long winded reply this just gets right up my backside
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I reckon they should just get rid of the dislike option, either you like a track enough to give it a thumbs up or you don't rate it at all. At least it woulld make it more work to upvote ones own tracks. Or even better, identify the offenders and report them. People have had tracks removed for doing the same thing in Evo.
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Yes i think that would be better also , not really sure anyone should really be entitled to dislike a track anyhow , being that they are made by normal people for people to play for free , whats not to like about a track when its not costing u anything but i can understand the measure tool that it provides , providing that its used correctly but sadly its not which doesnt fair well looking in tc. As much as i would love to report people andwould be morally correct in doing so its not soemthing that i do. this isnt just regarding my tracks , i would love to go in track central and see quality tracks be where they should be , would like to see the top lines full of all the quality and not miss them because the are way down the feed because of minipulation.
Oh well whilst this annoys me to the core , its not something that would stop me building but sure as helll wont stop me moaning about it either haha
anyhow back to my unicorn track , i will get it finished on time. does really seem like homework at the moment , having probs with performance so got to do some tweaking. Alot of it
cheers bud have a good day
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Oh snap, i think i got dissed by funktastic lol. My Track Gaia (an easy extreme)has the number 1 spot the last time i checked anyway.
Regardless i do feel that Rishaan's track should off been number 1.
When i saw Rishaan's track i was thinking "damn that track is awesome and will definitly be at the top". But i do feel good about being on top for once despite the fact that i made the obstacles easier then i planned. But i have to realize that players that speedrun are far outnumbered by regular players.
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No bud wasnt reffering to yours , not really reffering to any one but in general , it is good to see yours at the top bud , i was reffering to them stupid ones you cant even play and some other , well u know what i mean. Also i haven't played urs yet so wouldn't even try to guess what it would ride like. i plan to have a bash at it all though my skill at extremes is somewhaat lacking.
the post above is as a whole , daily and not just now.
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Dont worry so much about the people that purposely downgrade your tracks, the players that know and value a track by decor/dl all probably know by now they like your tracks and will definitely play them when you release something. Even if they get downvoted in one day to the point that it won't ever come back at the top 10, the same players will play them eventually just by searching your tracks and see if they missed something.Originally Posted by funktastic- Go to original post
lol, that is not an easy extreme.. :P, atleast not for me. Good track though, nice obstacles. And thanks for the kind words.Originally Posted by xntr1cs Go to original post
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I just wish they get rid of the no vote instead, there's some really bad tracks out there, and I rather dislike then no vote at all.Originally Posted by D2Dahaka Go to original post
I don't know how else to somehow divide the good from the bad (subject to opinion) outside of hand picking like uplay feeds.
I don't think the rating system in Fusion will or can change as it's too complicated to change a system that's been in place for over a year, it would either completely mess up track ratings, and starting over with a new system only can happen with a new game really.
And putting all tracks at "even ground" by some sort of a reset is no option either, it would completely void all history and on PC at least the tracks at launch & first recomended tracks have like hundreds if not thousands more then the best new track today due to track age & playerbase & not required DLC.
All in all this rating system is all about the % of likes vs dislikes similar to stars except slightly more accurate 4 star was like everything from 61-80% 5 star would be 81-100%, in the end most tracks would end up 5 star in top rated with no visible differences beside rarely shifting places.
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@ rish
I forget about people searching for tracks , i never even think once that people would search my name for tracks that i build lol but ur right i guess they do. I do have a fare few followers who are regulars of most of my tracks so this shows that this is true , that in the end the people who wanna play ya tracks will. Just forget this at times infact like i say never even think that this would happen to something i create.
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Oh yeah i agree that it cant really be changed but that doesnt stop the annoyance of what happens and yes ur right as a whole it proberbly works out better than alot of other systems. Just really bugs me , proper does hahaha.
One of those things i guess , maybe this will give them an idea on what they may think is best for another game , could still be this system. I do think that the system early on in fusion was great because one hour later you could have got you downloads back because the players were alot higher , now it stays low for days.
I guess its one of those things in a game that you just cant change but you cant stop moaning about it either haha..
not moaning just annoyed i would say , guess it comes down to passion about building and the game.
Off to watch a film me thinks , take care dudes
