where is the arabs? | Forums

[guest-pJusUJqZ]

hi ubisoft i wonder you puts knights vikings ans samurai in this games but where is the arab fighter?
i can not think of any reason why you ignor those fighter in your game

[WYRDB0Y]

Yes please! I think this game should have one more faction. Maybe for DLC.

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[Thodoras10]

It's "where are the arabs" :P

well the arabs are a specific nation not a warrior legacy and even if it was one it hasn't been on the earth for too long but there could be eastern knight in the game like a cosmetic add for the knights.

[MisterWillow]

It's "where are the arabs" :P

well the arabs are a specific nation not a warrior legacy and even if it was one it hasn't been on the earth for too long but there could be eastern knight in the game like a cosmetic add for the knights.

There could be something to that, actually, and not just for this specifically. It could also apply to the other factions as well, as a way to include the other factions that people have been asking for without making entirely new factions.

People have speculated about how they're doing long-term dlc, and while it's reasonable to assume we'll see some additional armour pieces and/or weapons falling squarely in the realm of samurai, viking, and mediæval European knight, they could also incorporate elements of adjacent, but related cultures. After all, the factions' names are not Samurai, Viking, and Knight; but Chosen, Warborn, and Legion, meaning that, broader lines can be drawn for cultural influence. Your suggestion for Byzantine armour and weapons would be a good example for the Legion, and this could be another, drawing cultural influence from the Ottoman Empire and Persia.

The only 'problem' I guess, is that the sword most associated with Arabic warfare is the scimitar, which is completely different in look, handling, and, to my knowledge, function to European swords---being held nearer the body, and using much more circular motions than straight-edge swords, or even sabers, to take advantage of the blade's curve. Maybe they could add a Hero/class later on that uses scimitar techniques.

The same could be done for the Chosen, adding in Mongolian Hero/class; which would mean the Chosen would have a shield-bearing class.



And the Warborn could have Celtic elements. Their shields and helmets and swords were different enough from the Vikings---sometimes very different---which could add a load of variety.



Could be an idea for the first big expansion, if they don't go full tilt and add new factions.

[Thodoras10]

Well the byzantine knight are much closer to the europian knights in terms of culture and also the byzantine knights used the european knight techniques and a little bit of their own techniques combined but the result in most of the situations is always same to that of the europian knights. Btw you just gave me a very nice idea mate

[Mr_Moonstone]

There could be something to that, actually, and not just for this specifically. It could also apply to the other factions as well, as a way to include the other factions that people have been asking for without making entirely new factions.

People have speculated about how they're doing long-term dlc, and while it's reasonable to assume we'll see some additional armour pieces and/or weapons falling squarely in the realm of samurai, viking, and mediæval European knight, they could also incorporate elements of adjacent, but related cultures. After all, the factions' names are not Samurai, Viking, and Knight; but Chosen, Warborn, and Legion, meaning that, broader lines can be drawn for cultural influence. Your suggestion for Byzantine armour and weapons would be a good example for the Legion, and this could be another, drawing cultural influence from the Ottoman Empire and Persia.

The only 'problem' I guess, is that the sword most associated with Arabic warfare is the scimitar, which is completely different in look, handling, and, to my knowledge, function to European swords---being held nearer the body, and using much more circular motions than straight-edge swords, or even sabers, to take advantage of the blade's curve. Maybe they could add a Hero/class later on that uses scimitar techniques.

The same could be done for the Chosen, adding in Mongolian Hero/class; which would mean the Chosen would have a shield-bearing class.

And the Warborn could have Celtic elements. Their shields and helmets and swords were different enough from the Vikings---sometimes very different---which could add a load of variety.

Could be an idea for the first big expansion, if they don't go full tilt and add new factions.

Yeah, nice idea. What really comes to mind is that other warrior legacies could come as DLC but would be related to the fighting style most fitting. For example arabian warriors using scimitars would be 'Chosen'.

[MisterWillow]

Yeah, nice idea. What really comes to mind is that other warrior legacies could come as DLC but would be related to the fighting style most fitting. For example arabian warriors using scimitars would be 'Chosen'.

I think vague cultural associations should determine their faction, rather than their fighting style or weapons, and the Ottomans, Persians, etc. are more associated with Europe than with the far East. The largest Caliphate was the Umayyad, which encompassed the entire Middle East, the northern edge of Africa, and Spain. The Ottomans---whose empire's easternmost border was further west than the Umayyad---defeated the Byzantines. The Crusades occurred. Arabic expansion (and therefore direct influence) in the vague time-frame of the game world (i.e. 500 - 1400 CE), barely reached the border of India.

This convention of integrating historically disparate, though interrelated, cultures could bring an extra bit of variety. It could also make sense in terms of the game's story, since the Chosen have been wandering in the desert for a thousand years (according to their page), meaning they could have driven Arabic cultures out, and they, in turn, join the Legion in hopes of reclaiming their homeland.

[Ant Heuser Kush]

It's "where are the arabs" :P

well the arabs are a specific nation not a warrior legacy and even if it was one it hasn't been on the earth for too long but there could be eastern knight in the game like a cosmetic add for the knights.

I think your sig is way too big... Lol

[Mr_Moonstone]

I think vague cultural associations should determine their faction, rather than their fighting style or weapons, and the Ottomans, Persians, etc. are more associated with Europe than with the far East. The largest Caliphate was the Umayyad, which encompassed the entire Middle East, the northern edge of Africa, and Spain. The Ottomans---whose empire's easternmost border was further west than the Umayyad---defeated the Byzantines. The Crusades occurred. Arabic expansion (and therefore direct influence) in the vague time-frame of the game world (i.e. 500 - 1400 CE), barely reached the border of India.

This convention of integrating historically disparate, though interrelated, cultures could bring an extra bit of variety. It could also make sense in terms of the game's story, since the Chosen have been wandering in the desert for a thousand years (according to their page), meaning they could have driven Arabic cultures out, and they, in turn, join the Legion in hopes of reclaiming their homeland.

The thought of connecting them to the fighting style most fitting was only considering how they could be implemented without the need for additional programming of fighting movements. It would make it easier for the devs and other warriors could just be integrated as cosmetic variations.
I agree that this would not be historically correct (the game isn't in the first place). The Chosen could, instead of driving the arabian culture out, have mixed up with them or even be them, nomads wandering the desert.

Greets

[WYRDB0Y]

Nah... If it's cosmetic only rather not bother with it, don't ruin the chosen theme.