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    Samurai katanas

    I'm not sure, but I belive that Samurais used to have two katanas with them. I would really like it if in the game the samurai had two swords even if you can only use one of them.
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    Your right, most samurai did wear 2 katana, some didn't and those that did only some of them were able to use them together. They do have a duel wield samurai in the mix, I haven't seen any gameplay footage but they have one in the 3faction helmet pic. They may not be katana though, they look more like wakizashi in length..
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    Sup

    Yeah, I would love to see a Samurai use two katanas in a combo or finisher.
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    The katana + wakizashi combo is not there in the gameplay shown becuase there will probably be a class/hero that actually uses that, and the gameplay only show The Oni that uses Katana as a two handed weapon, there will probably be a class that uses katana in one hand and wakizashi in the other.
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    Originally Posted by Klingenlied Go to original post
    Well, i dunno, but fighting with Katana and Wakizashi would mean you'd give some Advantage away. If you're Opponent does fight with a two handed sword, you are at a severe disadvantage when parrying single handed. Outside of very close quarter combat or some kinda assassination-move from behind where you use the wakizashi to hit some unarmored spot, i can not see a real use for it.
    Maybe they're going to block with both weapons at once? It would skirt the theoretical advantage of them being able to attack with one weapon while defending with the other. That would also apply to the viking berserker-type Hero/class with two axes that people have implied to be in the game.

    Furthermore, i can't see how a faster, more movielike-combat style is going to be balanced out evenly against the slower, heavy attacks. Guess it mighta just be a Little too unrealistic.
    Nevertheless, let's just see what they do for us, as for now, things look nice :-)

    Btw, sorry for weird writing, auto-correction does some stupid things at times (no native english Speaker)
    You could have a point. It depends on how fast a dual-wielding Hero/class is compared to the others. They could compensate by having them do reduced damage, or something.

    That would also be a point in favour of truly varied playstyles depending on Hero/class choice, so you do less damage, but could get more hits in, versus, say, a Hero/class with a larger weapon with a polearm, which would do massive damage but would need to be choosy about when to attack. And that applies to when you'd be facing them as well. Against a dual-wielder, I'd imagine you would need to play more defensively, since they could theoretically do some nasty damage if you aren't defending, versus the polearm-wielder, who I'd think you would want to keep the pressure on to prevent them attacking.

    Anyway, I don't want to derail the thread too much. I agree with others who've said there's probably a Hero/class that uses two swords. Looking forward to seeing them in action.
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    Originally Posted by Klingenlied Go to original post
    Furthermore, i can't see how a faster, more movielike-combat style is going to be balanced out evenly against the slower, heavy attacks.
    Perhaps instead of sheer speed the dual wielders will have 3 attack-comboes. The Warden and Oni seem to have 2 attack-comboes.

    Considering every attack staggers the enemy (which is a good thing), speed is a very serious business. They have to be super careful not to create speed too big differences between styles, because damage and health can hardly compensate for it.
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    Originally Posted by Solid_Altair Go to original post
    Perhaps instead of sheer speed the dual wielders will have 3 attack-comboes. The Warden and Oni seem to have 2 attack-comboes.

    Considering every attack staggers the enemy (which is a good thing), speed is a very serious business. They have to be super careful not to create speed too big differences between styles, because damage and health can hardly compensate for it.
    Welcome to the stun lock. XD

    Also i thought that wearing a katana and wakizashi were signs of social status, someone who did wear was an actual samurai, a aristocrate so to speak.
    Everyone could wear a sword though. At least i think i heard that once in a documentary.

    I actually would love to see dual wielding, since it didnt get any love historicly XD well except for miamoto musashi of course.
    Since "two handed" or hand and a half handed weapons are already in the game and shields and flails etc. too we can probably expect dual wielding. Probably even more so
    because miamoto musashi is iconic, just like the myth that vikings used axes only, but thats fine with me ^^.
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    To which part of the post did you refer as a probable cause of stun lock? The 3 hit combo? Or the speed tuning?

    Currently I don't think the combos stun lock. I think I saw one attack that double-hits. And one stun-lock that seemed to be caused by the victim being "stuck in a wall". In all the other instances the victim had time to parry the second attack. It could even be a very good parry, btw.
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    a very nice add that can provide you with many nice oportunities and choices for your playstyle
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    I don't see any problem with having a second blade as a visual.
    The main reason, Samurai wore both a katana and a wakizashi into battle is pretty simple: The swords were prone to chipping or bending due to their extremely hard edge and their soft back. So in case something happens, you always have a second blade to fall back on. European knights also used to have long daggers on them in case, they lose their main weapon. But in their case, the weapon also had a second purpose: To finish an armored opponent after they grappled him down.
    Well, of course, in case of the samurai, the wakizashi also had a second reason for being there other than being a backup: It's really difficult to properly cut open your stomach with a katana. Which is why seppuku was usually done with the shorter wakizashi.
    There's some kind of symbolism in always having a blade on you meant for ending your life if you bring shame on your lord.
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