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PC multiplayer matchmaking feels pretty much dead now sadly, rarely get a 1 v 1 going (which usually isn't even fun most of the time due to being very uneven, a few early fault can basicly mean game over and even winning I lose rating) but more often can't find anyone to play, which is a shame now that the UGC download "bug" was resolved.
TC on PC is slowing down as well, in terms of quality tracks, even mediocre (personal opinion) tracks there's less and less.
Still lots of mislabeled difficulty or inconsistent tracks (sudden huge difficulty jumps in 1 or more obstacles) that still get high ratings somehow due to very few people voting.
Seems a lot of players aren''t very keen on giving dislikes and has a different viewpoints/quality/fun standards then me , which is okay , each their own opinion.
I just think liking tracks too easily lowers overall meaning of the Like button. (which is again subjective to people's opinion "what does Like mean for me?" ) so it remains a tough subject.
Ninjas seem to be pushed out as a large % of tracks right now but I don't really play them so rarely can truly judge the quality.
Still good that ninjas have separate feeds but they still show up in " New Trials " , despite having it's own " New Ninja " feed.
Tournaments still being played, especially the Acorn ones attracted people, so thats a sign people are still here, but not sure how long.
I don't want to discourage people from playing/building, in fact the opposite, it's just my observations at the moment that there's less MP/TC going on.
Just a little rant I needed to get out.
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@xntr1cs
Nothing to appologise for matey , nothing wrong with voicing your own opinion in terms of passion for the game and wanting to build and create for others. Nothing wrong with eventually getting somewhat annoyed at no reward so to speak. I can totally understand how it feels bud and until people pass a certain level within thier tracks , they just dont have anywhere they can stand out. Ignore everyone who is against your thoughts and passion to stand out in a crowd. So many people are always giving the advice that so many other sdont do this or do that , well thats their choice if they want to sit and watch things just go by , nothing for standing out and trying to make a difference , knowing that it will highlight you as someone who doesnt follow suit. There is a problem within the system that needs people to continue to build. Unless your tracks provide something that can be recommended then builders could go on and on without getting and type of quality assement or reward if you like. There isnt nothing for the people who whilst need more improvement they still hold something valueble to track central. This was the first reason i spoke out in the recommended threads , to try and get some type of change within it , so just pure 100% quality wasnt the only thing that was taken into account. I do feel that they have done this but still do believe that for all peoples imput and dedication to the game they could possibly have a upcoming builders thread , like an highlight reel of whats to be looked out for. This would increase builders to stay building if atleast they was seen growing in a highlight reel and feel somekind of kindness back for all the tracks they have built.
I would liek to say tho that my first recommended wasnt unitl i had created around 40 tracks so your on the right path dude , keep in mind that one day you might go to the feed and see a track you created months ago being in there. My last 2 tracks that got recommended was from atleast 4 months to 6 months back if i recall. dont loose hope bud , like i say keep building , keep improving and one day i reckon you will get a recommended and many more. Dont give in to the temptation that track central can throw and the devs dont appreciate your work because at the end of the day i really think they do , certainly dont listen to anyone who tells you not to speak out or speak up. If thousand of others don't that don't mean your wrong bud , just means you have a tougher spine than most.
Keep building , keep improving , keep growing in editor skills
If i would give a tip , i would say try and change your creating style from time to time , dont just create speedruns or fast tracks , make really fun , technical ones and learn from them. Dont always take the dislikes in track central as your track isnt good. Infact if its an hard track then this is sometimes the main reason that it has so many dislikes in which then your aim of the track was spot on . Try to take positive things from your worst tracks and improve on them. Go back to other tracks and redo the lines , imropove crash points , and try to learn one thing new in every track. Keep in mind that the most important thing in making a track is that the gamer has fun.
Dont give up bud , your tracks are good and will get better and better the more you create , i will say tho that dont stick to one style , i find you can get stuck in a rut and keep doing the same mistake over and over without realising it. Making all types of tracks speeds the learning path alot , and also opens up a path in which your own style can creep into. I find that tracks that are very similar to others , like speedruns , fast flowy tracks , in many cases has to be perfect because in alot of ways they are so easy to create. So every inperfection stands out alot more than it would a fun , jumping , laughable track. Speedruns have to be top quality , no ****ches , smooth even dls , decor pretty great and so on. Tip - For speerunds try using the foxbat for even surfaces , this i find picks up almost all imperfections because of the lightness of the bike. I was given this tip by a well known gamers on here.
Keep building dude , grow and get stronger in all departments and 30 tracks is nothing really to the amount that some create. I my self have created , over 60 - 70 tracks , ( i say around 60 - 70 because i have redone some and maybe chanaged a few. But in all i would say 60 tracks with atleast 50 hours + in everyone and its because of this and the countless of hours learning that my tracks , dls have improved. Oh and help from great guys on the ps4. Tutorials from you tube , keep going bud dont let track central and its annoying way it came make you thingk ( why should i bother ) end of the day , you enjoy the feeling , enjoy creating so that in its self is the reason you should carry on improving and no doubt you will one day be in the recommended.
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Agreed. keep playing tracks/building tracks as long as you have fun doing it, goes for everyone for that matter.
Each their own experience, if people have fun releasing their tracks its okay, doesn't mean I have to like them, some other people might.
My other post might have sounded like I try to push "My" standards onto people, which is not my intention.
Great builder tips given in this fairly recent topic: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...-track-Awesome
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no no not at all teri bud , my post was reffering to the the same old acusations of someone being labled as crying if they speak up about how they feel. Didnt really touch on the subject of your post too much which i agreed with almost most of it.
There was a track just which was a good example , it was very easy to pass , pretty short and passable by my 8 year old little girl without even a fault. The decor was minimal and not really that much fun to be honest but it was up in the best places , even to a point in the all time highest feed , placed highly which imo was not way near the really quality of the track. The point being that i guess if a track is made so that every skill level can enjoy it then i guess they get the aspects of both worlds and a track will be highly place in likes. I think that if a track is in medium or hard then it should be of that level and not be passable to people who are at a skill level of easy which is would imagine is a vast amount with the youngsters being played. This track no doubt will also be recommended , all of his are. the track had basic animations , no really great ending and nothing special. Just pure passabke and had a real easy flow. I guess the only way to ensure this not happening would be to have some sort the tracks in track central which wont ever happen i dont think.
Tracks that are highly rated should imo have something fantastic about them , some awsome animations , a prefect drivle line or a wow factor thats top notch. They could also have some fun aspects to them or atleast something that seperates them from any other everyday good track. Even great builders continue to build tracks that are aimed at the whole entire games players and not a certain level , these types of tracks are far easier to make than any other form imo.
I have made some difficult track and have been in the same cat that easy passable tracks are in and hardly ever do they do better , simply because they are not as easy to pass. Should this be a factor that decides its not as good of quality or maybe even better ? problem is thats the main decision on most players in tc Like someone else said to me once , slap an easy line down , put one spike that is forgettable but hard and there you have it , an easy passable track in the hard cat. Oh dont forget to add blinding sun in your eyes and bam a all time best track in trialshahaha
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Ok, first thing, welcome to the forums and thank you for playing Trials Fusion and taking the time to begin learning the editor. That's a difficult task.Originally Posted by xntr1cs Go to original post
Now; forum antics have no impact on what goes into Uplay Recommended. You can think I am lying all you want, but that makes no sense to us. What you do here is what you do here. What you build is all that matters in regards to Uplay Recommended. Only a couple of the people who add to the list of what we want in Uplay Recommended really come to the forums (mostly me) and there are at least 10 people adding tracks. 80% of the people adding tracks have no idea what kind of "forum drama" is going on.
Your tracks should speak for themselves. The forums are the forums, and the games are the games. It makes no sense to not share a track with the community because of something someone said on the forums.
That's a lot more validation than many people receive.Originally Posted by xntr1cs Go to original post
There have been many things created that astound us. A Minecraft clone, a parkour-style track, space combat sims, flight sims, Super-hero quests, RPGs, side-scrolling fighters... the list goes on. But you are right, when it comes to what we look for in Trials tracks there are some guidelines to help.Originally Posted by xntr1cs Go to original post
1. Properly rated difficulty. (Don't label Ninja tracks as Hard or Extreme without the Ninja Tag)
2. Checkpoint placement. (Don't put CPs where an obstacle is far more difficult than the listed difficulty, and use enough checkpoints.)
3. Don't leave stuff floating in the air (unless it's space or somehow fits the theme. Just blocks sitting there are pretty meh.)
4. Change up the lighting and environment options.
5. Driving from the wild west into a jungle and then through ruins on your way to space CAN work, but it's going to be difficult.
6. Test your track for problems with both good and poor runs.
Hello! Please consider yourself acknowledged. Sorry, we can't send out t-shirts to everyone who makes tracks as that would get SUPER expensive.Originally Posted by xntr1cs Go to original post
Most votes in Evo were either No Vote, 5 stars or 1 star. Adding more options for voting doesn't help. And someone mentioned it already, but people up-vote tracks that they beat that they think others can't. That's not a broken voting system, that people voting. I don't see how it matters WHY someone likes a track, what matters is that they do.Originally Posted by VEGASTRASH Go to original post
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A system where a person can go and sign in to other accounts to simply dislke a track again after they already have with thier original account is without question a flawed system. I know for sure one person has just done this on my track atleast twice just now. Some people have multiple accounts for one family console , brothers sisters and so forth. This is like you say free choice but choosing to use the sytem to down vote tracks and send them below thier own is a broke system. This whatever way the system is worked out , ( especially with the power of a disslike. Choices , freedom to do what they like is irrevlevant to this happening , this cant be explained in anyway other way than a flaw.
In the terms i am speaking of , it is broke , you could argue that another account gives them the right to have another choice , which is fine but then why would someone choose to play a track they did not like with thier other account ? they are choosing to use thier other choice again as a tool to gain an advantage and this is a flaw which would say that it is indeed broke. I could go and make 10 accounts and disslike every track that comes out giving no one any chance of any downloads or a high place.
This is annoying and should not be allowed to happen when people are putting over 100 + hours into a track. why are people allowed to do this ? because the system says they can.
sorry just annoyed at the morons who do this , maybe we should all do this.
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We can't do anything about somebody using multiple accounts on consoles because every account is treat as a different account. The only way to "solve" that would be to contact you platform owner and convince them that each game should be tied directly to one account and other accounts on the platform cannot vote using the same copy of the game.
That's nothing that I would like to see happen, but it's the only solution that I can think of.
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yeah i know bud , like i said , was just in a mood lol , sorry if it caused any bother , i guess a solution would to be to cut how powerful a dislike is in the early stages of upload. Going on the fact that downloads really account to being higher up the ladder. In a game were there is hundreds downloading like this first period of the game i guess it didnt matter so much. But if someone dislikes a track says 5 times on the early stages now then its pretty much sqaushed unless it stays high in its cat and no one uploads alot more tracks. End of the day i have said it before as much as i get annoyed at some of the things people do or can do , that would be the same with any system in place. Can imagine that the system wasnt just pulled out of crimbo cracker and was wieghed up and measured.
Lots of things i imagine also play apart that i cant possibly know of , just get alittle mardy when ya spend so many hours for ppl to be unkind. Not too worry , doesnt stop me from enjoying the game a great deal.
have a good week bud
