View Poll Results: Should The Awesome Adventure be removed from the global leaderboard?

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  • Yes (I compete on the global leaderboard)

    33 67.35%
  • Yes (I do not compete on the global leaderboard)

    7 14.29%
  • No (I compete on the global leaderboard)

    6 12.24%
  • No (I do not compete on the global leaderboard)

    0 0%
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  1. #21
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    Originally Posted by Buttcheekofdeth Go to original post
    Sorry, misunderstanding.

    But, as I explained above, I still do not think that is a good reason. I would like those people to chime in but I'm going to guess that most of them ran those tracks "against their will" and would not mind if they were removed so that they don't have to compete on them in the future. Those who do like the tracks still have their awesome runs and can still compete on them individually.
    It's cool mate, no need for sorry,
    I don't think anyone here that loves trials for trials would disagree with any of the above,
    I ran the unicorn tracks, not against my will exactly but I didn't have any desire to do it until some asked, what it's worth on the leaderboard,
    So I spent half an hour running through it, left one fault on two tracks and zeroed the rest for gold medals and only got platinum on the first track with the trials bike,
    I got 2 million points from it... I don't know what it did to my ranking but I'd guess it gave me a fair boost.
    And it made me feel bad for the dudes I had passed on the LB's because I know some take it very seriously. (some not so much anymore)
    But the LBs on Fusion really mean nothing from the start,
    Starting out with the coffin runs, then those runs getting deleted without LB correction which led to double scores,
    No + dlc LBs, now unicorn thrown in the mix,
    I don't mean to sound condecending but I really don't know why anyone bothers, It's a joke, (in terms of a serious Trials competitive LB)
    It's not likely to change because it's a good business model designed to maximize profits... If you want to top the LB's it's gonna cost you!

    The only LB's I pay attention to is track by track where a more personal accurate competition can be had with friends,

    I do hope that RL pay attention to this poll and realize that the core players are disappearing and they need to change it back,
    You'd never know as Eno has said they are looking at it,

    So I'll repeat what I said...
    @En0,
    Global + DLC + Awesome Adventure
    Please man, do it, before everyone is gone,
    The casuals targeted by the new direction of trials may very well pay for future development,
    But the core players awaiting the next installment will be seriously lacking by that time.
    I hate coming on here and moaning but it's true, I and many others are witnessing it right now...
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    Originally Posted by Fazotronic85 Go to original post
    That doesn't make much sense. I don't like the Unicorn either but obviously most ppl you pass on LB haven't played the dlc yet. Happened with every dlc.
    This one being the biggest makes it even more noticeable.
    Highest ive ever been after a previous DLC was around 140, then after a couple days i usually settle to around 160ish. With this DLC I jumped to like 60 and after a couple days settled down to 80ish.

    This is clearly highly abnormal. I was even later to this DLC than I usually am. The unicorn handles so terribly, and the courses arent designed with speedrunning in mind so alot of better riders arent able to spank me on the unicorn tracks like they are on the traditional trials tracks. Even just comparing my leaderboard ranking between the traditional trials tracks and the unicorn tracks in this DLC... im consistently ranked much higher on the unicorn tracks.

    Either way its just my opinion, I consider the leaderboards laughable now, you dont have to agree with it.
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    Originally Posted by ozy Go to original post
    I'm guessing this would be the easiest option for RL?
    Sounds good to me...and more tracks for bikes can only be a good thing, no matter how whacked out some of those tracks are lol,
    Good to know the issue is recognized at least.

    But still the best option would be to have the leaderboards as they were on the previous Trials title...
    Global Leaderboard,
    Global Leaderboard + DLC,
    +
    (Global Leaderboard + DLC + Awesome Adventure)

    Unlikely I know, but would be nice
    Give this man a gold star. Perfect solution
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    Originally Posted by Buttcheekofdeth Go to original post
    Well, that was easy. So why did Redlynx ever include them in the first place?

    For the people who already grinded these tracks, we are not taking away their records. If people enjoy these tracks, then they are free to compete on them individually just as with skill games and FMX. If they do not enjoy these tracks but grinded them begrudgingly, I doubt they will mind if they are taken off the global leaderboard, but I'd like to hear what they have to say.



    This is not at all a valid point. Hard and extreme tracks are designed for speedrunning, while the unicorn tracks are not. It's as simple as that.



    This would be the best solution and should not be unlikely, given that it was done with no problems in Trials HD and Trials Evolution. But I realize now that this is just a tactic to force money out of their fans. Redlynx learned this technique from their F2P game. "Oh, you want to keep competing? $10 please!" Please prove me wrong Redlynx.
    I'm sorry to say, but your statement about the unicorn tracks not being speedrun tracks is 100% wrong, what makes them any different from other trials tracks? other than the fact that you're riding a unicorn, If I were to grind out a good time for the unicorn tracks, it would me no different if I were to do the same on "normal" tracks.

    I mean, I'm not a fan of the unicorn concept as much as the next guy, but saying they can't be speed ran is wrong and not even close to a valid reason why they shouldn't be counted on the leaderboards

    I will agree though with others that having an LB + DLC type leaderboards like evo had would be pretty nice to have.
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    Originally Posted by xXJ4cK1EBXx Go to original post
    I'm sorry to say, but your statement about the unicorn tracks not being speedrun tracks is 100% wrong, what makes them any different from other trials tracks? other than the fact that you're riding a unicorn, If I were to grind out a good time for the unicorn tracks, it would me no different if I were to do the same on "normal" tracks.

    I mean, I'm not a fan of the unicorn concept as much as the next guy, but saying they can't be speed ran is wrong and not even close to a valid reason why they shouldn't be counted on the leaderboards

    I will agree though with others that having an LB + DLC type leaderboards like evo had would be pretty nice to have.
    The reason the unicorn tracks shouldn't be count towards global is because the unicorn, as it's been stated many times now, it wasn't made for speedrunning, it was made to have fun with, not to be used in a competitive atmosphere, you can see this by if you're going really quick down a hill the front wheels will cave in and you'll flip over. Also a lot of times when you land your front wheels literally stick in the ground and you lose all your speed. It wasn't made for speedrunning and even redlynx told us this, you can even see it wasn't because those problems are present, if they intended it to be competitive they would have fixed it as it's problems that wouldn't have been too hard to fix as the current bikes don't do that.

    From what I can see, having a full leaderboard recalculation is not in the question, as people have said, people have already put time into the tracks. The best solution is to make the pit viper and the roach available on all the unicorn tracks, that way no need for a leaderboard recalculation and the times people have gotten with the unicorn aren't deleted.

    The tracks themselves are really good, they're very well made and the sad part is that they will be left to gather dust as not many people will play them after the hype of a new 'bike' has died down.
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    Originally Posted by ozy Go to original post
    But still the best option would be to have the leaderboards as they were on the previous Trials title...
    Global Leaderboard,
    Global Leaderboard + DLC,
    +
    (Global Leaderboard + DLC + Awesome Adventure)

    Unlikely I know, but would be nice
    This, this, this, this, this, this & THIS.

    Separated leaderboards have been requested since the 1st DLC was released. And I still hope that we get them one day.
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  7. #27

    Get rid of this abomination

    Signed. It's an absolute joke. I understand the need to milk more cash out of this game by adding all this gimmicky nonsense to attract the casual players now Ubisoft are involved, and that it'll never be the game HD was. But keep all the weird ideas separate, or at least give the option to filter it out. Fusion has disappointed me at every turn, not even being as good or having the features from evo was a joke, and I got over the horrific ATV section, but this new unicorn thing is the final nail in the coffin for me. I cannot believe that it counts on the LB's.
    It's a very sad day for trials for a lot of the players that have been around from the start and who thought they were playing a trials bike game.
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    Should the Awesome Adventure be removed from the game? Of course.

    Hang on a second, you're asking for said adventure to not count towards the Global LB? That goes without saying.
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    Originally Posted by En0- Go to original post
    It's simply because the track/unicorn is not designed for speed running whereas the global leaderboard is for speed runners.

    - Allow other bikes on the tracks that can be completed with something else than the unicorn. (can't be done for all the tracks but some of them probably)
    if the unicorn is not designed for speedrunning, why does it even exist? i mean this is what trials tracks are all about, right?
    also the cactus challenge event was panda-only at first and it was updated for standard bikes later (good descision btw!) so why wasnt the awesome adventure event designed for all bikes right away? i dont get it...

    in my opinion rl should focus on 5 bikes: baggie, roach, viper, rabbit, donkey
    sorry but i still cant imagine someone was thinking that a quad bike or even a cat/unicorn would be a good idea for trials.

    anyway just allow all bikes for the awesome adventure event, i think thats the best what you guys could do.
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    Originally Posted by Raypiste Go to original post
    Signed. It's an absolute joke. I understand the need to milk more cash out of this game by adding all this gimmicky nonsense to attract the casual players now Ubisoft are involved, and that it'll never be the game HD was. But keep all the weird ideas separate, or at least give the option to filter it out. Fusion has disappointed me at every turn, not even being as good or having the features from evo was a joke, and I got over the horrific ATV section, but this new unicorn thing is the final nail in the coffin for me. I cannot believe that it counts on the LB's.
    It's a very sad day for trials for a lot of the players that have been around from the start and who thought they were playing a trials bike game.
    Agree.
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