View Poll Results: Should The Awesome Adventure be removed from the global leaderboard?

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  • Yes (I compete on the global leaderboard)

    33 67.35%
  • Yes (I do not compete on the global leaderboard)

    7 14.29%
  • No (I compete on the global leaderboard)

    6 12.24%
  • No (I do not compete on the global leaderboard)

    0 0%
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  1. #11
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    Originally Posted by xXJ4cK1EBXx Go to original post
    I think it should stay, not because I like it, but as was stated by Eno. there are people out there who have already put in the time and effort to grind out those tracks for a good leaderboard position. They have to learn how to ride on the awkward unicorn physics just like everybody else. It isn't fair to them to have redlynx say "sorry you dedicated hours on these tracks, but somebody else didn't like the concept so now were gonna take away your well deserved leaderboard position because of it"

    If you're gonna say it should be removed because it's to "hard to control" then you might as well ask redlynx to remove the extreme tracks (and some hards even) from the leaderboards, because for some people those tracks are too hard for them.

    just practice getting to know how the unicorn controls and figure out how you want to land when hitting downhill or even flat surfaces. and you'll be able to learn how to control it just like you learn how to control any other bike in the game.
    This is a valid point, absolutely,
    But what happened to Trials being about a Trials bike,
    Unicorn Fusion is not the game I bought or ATV Fusion for that matter,
    Trials = bike, Options are great but... TRIALS!
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  2. #12
    Maybe a score removal calculator could be made, similar to the score calculator made by Defoliator? I know its not ideal or the best but it may be the only possibility if 'in game' it cant be removed.
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  3. #13
    Originally Posted by En0- Go to original post
    It's simply because the track/unicorn is not designed for speed running whereas the global leaderboard is for speed runners.
    Well, that was easy. So why did Redlynx ever include them in the first place?

    For the people who already grinded these tracks, we are not taking away their records. If people enjoy these tracks, then they are free to compete on them individually just as with skill games and FMX. If they do not enjoy these tracks but grinded them begrudgingly, I doubt they will mind if they are taken off the global leaderboard, but I'd like to hear what they have to say.

    Originally Posted by ozy Go to original post
    This is a valid point, absolutely
    This is not at all a valid point. Hard and extreme tracks are designed for speedrunning, while the unicorn tracks are not. It's as simple as that.

    Originally Posted by ozy Go to original post
    But still the best option would be to have the leaderboards as they were on the previous Trials title...
    Global Leaderboard,
    Global Leaderboard + DLC,
    +
    (Global Leaderboard + DLC + Awesome Adventure)

    Unlikely I know, but would be nice
    This would be the best solution and should not be unlikely, given that it was done with no problems in Trials HD and Trials Evolution. But I realize now that this is just a tactic to force money out of their fans. Redlynx learned this technique from their F2P game. "Oh, you want to keep competing? $10 please!" Please prove me wrong Redlynx.
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    It's fun to play around with.

    It wasn't made for speedrunning or competing.
    Period.

    Signed.
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    Originally Posted by Buttcheekofdeth Go to original post
    This is not at all a valid point. Hard and extreme tracks are designed for speedrunning, while the unicorn tracks are not. It's as simple as that.
    The point in reference was that people have already gained score from this and to remove score from their leaderboards is unfair...Valid
    Nothing to do with whats is and what isn't a speedrunning track.
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    Originally Posted by ozy Go to original post
    The point in reference was that people have already gained score from this and to remove score from their leaderboards is unfair...Valid
    Nothing to do with whats is and what isn't a speedrunning track.
    Sorry, misunderstanding.

    But, as I explained above, I still do not think that is a good reason. I would like those people to chime in but I'm going to guess that most of them ran those tracks "against their will" and would not mind if they were removed so that they don't have to compete on them in the future. Those who do like the tracks still have their awesome runs and can still compete on them individually.
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  7. #17
    Ozy's solution is the only practical fix.

    Signed.
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  8. #18
    Originally Posted by En0- Go to original post
    We'll make a decision in August but at the moment we identified 3 solutions:
    - Do nothing because some riders already proved you can grind the leaderboard/speedrun it.
    - Remove them from the global leaderboard (unlikely to happen, too complicated to reupdate all the scores of the global leaderboard)
    - Allow other bikes on the tracks that can be completed with something else than the unicorn. (can't be done for all the tracks but some of them probably)
    If it will be solution 2 (or an acceptable 3) I would consider buying the dlc, but unicorn in global, NOPE
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  9. #19
    I dont play for leaderboard position, after I platinum a track I generally just move on. But with this unicorn crap ive now jumped from like 170ish to 80ish on XB1. All this tells me is the global leaderboards are now a joke. Im rusty, I havent been playing fusion... if anything my leaderboard position should have gone down after this DLC.

    I would prefer to be lower ranked on a leaderboard with some semblance of legitimacy rather than higher ranked on a joke of a leaderboard. The fact ive jumped up so many positions despite being worse at the game just goes to show how far removed leaderboard position and skill have become from one another due to this latest DLC.

    I am no longer remotely impressed by anyone with high leaderboard position and I think its within everyone's best interest, even those that took the time to grind out the unicorn tracks, that something is done so the leaderboards become somewhat meaningful again.
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  10. #20
    Originally Posted by BeardinUSA Go to original post
    I dont play for leaderboard position, after I platinum a track I generally just move on. But with this unicorn crap ive now jumped from like 170ish to 80ish on XB1. All this tells me is the global leaderboards are now a joke. Im rusty, I havent been playing fusion... if anything my leaderboard position should have gone down after this DLC.

    I would prefer to be lower ranked on a leaderboard with some semblance of legitimacy rather than higher ranked on a joke of a leaderboard. The fact ive jumped up so many positions despite being worse at the game just goes to show how far removed leaderboard position and skill have become from one another due to this latest DLC.

    I am no longer remotely impressed by anyone with high leaderboard position and I think its within everyone's best interest, even those that took the time to grind out the unicorn tracks, that something is done so the leaderboards become somewhat meaningful again.
    That doesn't make much sense. I don't like the Unicorn either but obviously most ppl you pass on LB haven't played the dlc yet. Happened with every dlc.
    This one being the biggest makes it even more noticeable.
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