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[V8Addict]

just like most drive the laferrari now in perf races because it cannot be caught in pvp.....

As I understand, they are working on that (nerfing the LaFerrari or boosting the others).

[asmolnyi]

People have discussed this ever since first day of this game. If tuning the cars would be ever so realistic, everybody would drive a LaFerrari in PvP and faction missions, what's the fun in that? It's all done on purpose. Read MadManCK's post again! He nailed it perfectly!

That's why the cars must be balanced by classes. It will resolve all the problems.
Laferrari must be competitive to Koen etc. Skyline to Focus etc. But NOT Skyline to Laferrari etc.
Only outside view is now the difference between the cars. It's wrong.

[V8Addict]

That's why the cars must be balanced by classes. It will resolve all the problems.
Laferrari must be competitive to Koen etc. Skyline to Focus etc. But NOT Skyline to Laferrari etc.
Only outside view is now the difference between the cars. It's wrong.

That's very good thinking! Let the supercars compete in their own class, the cars below that in their class and then the muscle cars. In this way, we won't see a Mini against a Koenigsegg or Pagani and be competitive.

[Ziltoid Racer]

As I understand, they are working on that (nerfing the LaFerrari or boosting the others).

yeah they said by boosting others. this nerfing needs knocking on the head. better to improve the rest than nerf the fast ones.

[Niphrentil]

Gonna point out what is wrong in this statement.

1) Mclaren F1 default speed is 236-240 mph in this game, my Performance tuned McLaren F1, can hit 206-219. Already there is something wrong with this picture when Tuning a Car nerfs its speed, this is an obvious gimping of the car, and to solidify my point, the Bugatti Veyron in all its forms, only gets better and better and better the more they improved and tuned its specs, so no, tuning a car in this game, should not nerf its stats, its stupid and devalues them, a Skyline should not ever EVER no matter how improved that model of Skyline is, no matter what mods you shove into it, it should never be able to compete against a McLaren F1 so long as the McLaren F1 has all the superior tech. Would you in the real world, when your intent is to win a race, with a car the you've picked that is fast, would you gimp that car's speed when you know the name of the game is to be faster and better then your opponent in order to win? You wont win a speed race if you nerf your acceleration or topspeed, plain simple fact. You only improve a car, you dont make it worse in some way

2) Your comment about Skyline, the Evo and Supra and american muscle cars, they do have limits, they cannot ever be as fast as the McLaren F1, Pagani Huayra, or Koenigsegg or Bugatti Veyron, UNLESS THEY HAVE TECH ON THE SAME FREAKEN LEVEL as those super cars!!!!! You could deck a Skyline out as much as you want, but in order for it to ever compete with a Veyron in speed, you'd have to change more then its parts, you'd have to completely rebuild the car, both parts and BODY to a point that its no longer a Skyline!!!!

Why do you even bother to argue with what I say when you clearly don't even bother to actually READ what I write??

bottom line is that if you would like to have an R34 go faster than an Agera R, though it may be possible, it would probably cost you twice as much as if you where to get an Agera R...

Please, next time you try to make a point, try to actually READ the counter-argument and not make a fool of yourself! Thanks!

[MichaelB450]

Gonna point out what is wrong in this statement.

1) Mclaren F1 default speed is 236-240 mph in this game, my Performance tuned McLaren F1, can hit 206-219. Already there is something wrong with this picture when Tuning a Car nerfs its speed, this is an obvious gimping of the car, and to solidify my point, the Bugatti Veyron in all its forms, only gets better and better and better the more they improved and tuned its specs, so no, tuning a car in this game, should not nerf its stats, its stupid and devalues them, a Skyline should not ever EVER no matter how improved that model of Skyline is, no matter what mods you shove into it, it should never be able to compete against a McLaren F1 so long as the McLaren F1 has all the superior tech. Would you in the real world, when your intent is to win a race, with a car the you've picked that is fast, would you gimp that car's speed when you know the name of the game is to be faster and better then your opponent in order to win? You wont win a speed race if you nerf your acceleration or topspeed, plain simple fact. You only improve a car, you dont make it worse in some way

2) Your comment about Skyline, the Evo and Supra and american muscle cars, they do have limits, they cannot ever be as fast as the McLaren F1, Pagani Huayra, or Koenigsegg or Bugatti Veyron, UNLESS THEY HAVE TECH ON THE SAME FREAKEN LEVEL as those super cars!!!!! You could deck a Skyline out as much as you want, but in order for it to ever compete with a Veyron in speed, you'd have to change more then its parts, you'd have to completely rebuild the car, both parts and BODY to a point that its no longer a Skyline!!!!

The whole point of "nerfing" the stats is to somewhat balance the spec and to prevent people from using one kind of car to win races. By making most of the cars balanced, the game will be more fun for the players that don't want to use the same car over and over again. I personally would like to switch up my cars in PVP every race, but since people are using O.P. cars to win. I have to use a car that I could use in the corners well without looking like a scrub using an O.P. car.

[Ootarion]

Why do you even bother to argue with what I say when you clearly don't even bother to actually READ what I write??



Please, next time you try to make a point, try to actually READ the counter-argument and not make a fool of yourself! Thanks!

FIrst off, I did read your post, however despite what you said, there is still the fact that cheapo cars are able to compete with high performance monsters such as the McLaren F1, Koenigsegg, and Huayra, when in reality those cheapo cars would never stand a chance against those three cars no matter how many mods get shoved into them, for them to stand a chance they would need to be COMPLETELY rebuilt, IE a car like the 2013 Nissan or the Nissan Skyline, would have to be rebuilt to such a degree they would no longer be a 2013 Nissan 370z or Nissan Skyline, but something entirely different, as they are their bodies and transmissions just cannot handle what purpose built cars like the Pagani Huayra and Koenigsegg can. Furthermore if this were based on reality, the Huayra would probably have the best handling out of the three ive been mentioning, its built for such a thing yet in this game its turning is just like most of the other cars in this game, granted with enough parts that problem is partially rectified, but still the steering in this game has about all the responsiveness and sensitivity of a slow turning high speed turtle that can go 100-200+ mph and im no stranger to driving games. So no, you dont get to insult me, until you first try to understand where I am coming from and even then, you have no logical reason to call me a fool. And while you did come up with an excellent suggestion of making the upgrades cost twice as much, there is still the fact that unless that R34 is completely rebuilt from the ground up to the extent that its no longer an R34, it will never be able to compete against super cars or the Koenigsegg which is supposed to be this game's Hypercar (the fact a cheapo car can stand a chance against this game's Hypercar when the Koenigsegg costs so much, is just plain flat out dumb and makes the Koenigsegg a waste of money), no matter what you put under the hood of that R34. I can understand that you probably like this game alot so you'll adamantly defend it even if it were a fools errand to do so and thats admirable, but because of your refusal to understand valid complaints about this game, which if you are refusing to understand, then thats why problems never get fixed.

Even you have to admit that seeing this game's Hypercar get passed effortlessly by a cheapo car is stupid, you have to admit that is just wrong, considering how much people have to pay in game money wise to get it, or how much CC they have to buy with real money just to get it, this car should not so easily get out performed by those cheap cars, its plain simple logic!

If this game's "Balance" if you can call it that, is to make each car that is tuned competative with every other car of the same spec, IE ALL Performance Spec cars are competitive like a 2013 Nissan competing against a Koenigsegg, then what is the point in even buying expensive high performance cars in the first place when no matter what you buy in the end it doesnt matter?! Btw even if what ive said in this last sentence is not entirely true, I still see it happening quite a bit, real good super cars getting upstaged by cheapo cars when that shouldnt honestly be possible, it isnt fair to the people who spend hours saving money to buy cars like the Huayra or Koenigsegg, only to see their hard work become meaningless because of this game's pitiful excuse of balance!!

[BA1969]

Why does every thread end up in a nerf the cars please thread?

[Kenos_Psychi]

If this game's "Balance" if you can call it that, is to make each car that is tuned competative with every other car of the same spec, IE ALL Performance Spec cars are competitive like a 2013 Nissan competing against a Koenigsegg, then what is the point in even buying expensive high performance cars in the first place when no matter what you buy in the end it doesnt matter?! Btw even if what ive said in this last sentence is not entirely true, I still see it happening quite a bit, real good super cars getting upstaged by cheapo cars when that shouldnt honestly be possible, it isnt fair to the people who spend hours saving money to buy cars like the Huayra or Koenigsegg, only to see their hard work become meaningless because of this game's pitiful excuse of balance!!

I love the Hotrod HuP One perf spec. I love the sound of the engine and the way the car looks. I spent weeks, just like every one else, unlocking the parts to make it competitive in PvP and now it's worthless. Money in this game is not an issue...just spend a few hours in PvP, hours not weeks, and you'll have enough to buy the Laferrari, it's what I did. But I don't like those supercars, the sound of their engines hurt my ears =P just kidding. But seriously though before the june patch the races I had that were the most fun were the races against these supercars and it was neck and neck and I didnt win alot of them and I was fine with that becasue of how close they were. That's why I play video games. to have fun, there are no more neck and neck races anymore when I drive my Hotrod and it makes me sad. Maybe Ivorytower should split up the perf races by car catagory, muscles with muscles, tuners with tuners, supers with supers. All I know is I want to drive my hotrod and have fun races but i can't because the Laferrari is in a class of its own and that's the car everyone drives now.

[V8Addict]

It's all about making all cars competitive in all classes. By this, your favourite drive car will be good enough to win races. You won't have to buy a LaFerrari to win races, you can do it in your favourite car. It's all done on purpose. At least that's what I think they tried to do. So far it's a fail, but soon enough we'll be there.
A solution is, as Kenos said, to make super cars compete in their own class, tuners in theirs and muscle cars in theirs. That would make races more interresting. this would mean a total rework of PvP and faction missions. I'm sure they (IT) are thinking about this, and we'll just have to wait and see.