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  1. #11
    Originally Posted by defiled669cfh Go to original post
    First off no night maps using nvgs sorry play the game even dlc didnt have night maps. And second play the games.
    Night mission that takes place at 3:13am.


    Confirmation it's at night.


    Night vision.

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    Originally Posted by defiled669cfh Go to original post
    First off no night maps using nvgs sorry play the game even dlc didnt have night maps. And second play the games. The premier showed the exact same 3rd person over the sboulder came pay attention. That rui.ed online game play because the camera would not lock behind corners so chessy people used it with the infamous headshot glitch on a regular basist. Then the covering system was so messed up players were taking advantage of that glitch and became indestructible, such as the guy taged as hec7ic. Everytime ghost comes out it loses people on the multiplayer went from 16 to 12, now it looks like 4. And for my crass friend, how much is ubisoft paying you to be a mediator because you suck. Ive followed this game from its birth, ive seen it in its glory and its downfall. I want ghost recon to be number 1, I want the guys playing arma and the other sim games to see where it all began. Battlefield nor call of dooky held a candle to the first ghost recon games. And if ghost would have stayed with what they were doi.g call of dooky would never see the number one spot. Oh and one more thing my references is to online pvp play if ghost wants to do 3rd person on campaign then good buy onli.e pvp has to be 1st person if they want to make their money back., they did a poll about first person ghost and 3rd. First person killed 3rd. So why ghost recon devs would you make a poll and see the results and not say hey we better make this first person. I love this franchise no matter what but I dont like seei.g it drown in bull s... ideas, bri.g the game play back to its multiplayer roots. And if you haven't played the first 2 ghost recons then please try it then imagine better graphics and more people. Dude they dont have to do anything but remake the first 2 and it will kill whats in the market today so please go play your battlefield or call of dooky. Those games made the path they are on. But bri.g ghost recon back to its milsim roots. Dont let battlefield incorporate a milsim version of that game, and if arma hits consoles its a wrap for those games. Battlefield tried to be innovative hardline is the worst battlefield ever made. Dont believe me look at the sells. Look how many people is online playing. People are bored with this military arcade games the want realistic bullett trajectory they want real guns real explosions and real combat feel. Not another look over the shoulder cam pansy *** game. Ghost recon was never the game people laughed at it was for the hardcore. See I know where it came from rogue spear rainbow six ghost recon all military sims. Stop making it a joke
    Hi defiled669cfh.

    Firstly, I'd like to start by stating that we value everyones opinions on what they've seen of the game so far. You are entitled to your opinion, just as everyone else is entitled to their own. We would however, like to remind you to please remain civil with others on the forum when sharing your thoughts. We understand that the Ghost Recon community is very passionate and that they want the best for the franchise.

    With that in mind, we've not yet discussed camera modes which will be used in different portions of the game or anything related to the multiplayer portion of the game. Please rest assured however that once we've got more information on what will be used, we will share this with the community.

    As for what you've said about Cortexian, I'd like to point out that he is one of the most passionate and helpful members of this community, as well as the help he provides across several Ubisoft games. He is not being paid for the services he's providing on the forums and is doing this because he wants to help this community. I would appreciate if you showed him the same level of respect you'd like to be shown yourself, as he, along with several members of the community, have helped out a massive amount.

    Thanks.
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    I understand Defiled66's passion on Ghost Recon I aver been a GR fan since the original Xbox version (check my join date) There are two things that I think destroyed the fan base for the series. The first was the long delay between GRAW2 and FS It was like what 5 years? Over that time COD became the console shooter of choice mainly because they drop new games yearly. A lot of people migrated to the Battlefield series because it was more realistic than COD and didn't have the childish fanbase that COD has. Over that long delay people forgot about Ghost Recon, and when FS was released, hardcore fans were thinking WTF is this? Which brings me to point...Future Soldier was too future. So much so it was unrealistic and easy. The going trend in shooters is to go futuristic. Look at the last two COD's. I'm glad GRWL is going back to open world and not so "techie" for this series.

    That being said we have only seen very little of this game. While it is a 3rd person / 1st person hybrid, you never know what game modes an camera angle will be present in the final build so everyone just relax! I didn't like GRAW when it was first released but it became my favorite game of the series so try not to bash the game based off a 5 min E3 reveal until you have had the game in you hands.
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    Originally Posted by defiled669cfh Go to original post
    Play the game, this isnt new its old and didnt work, and considering the fact ive paid for and spent thousands of hours of my life playing the ghost recon series i think my input is just as good as the few 8 that went to meet the game devs if you want to know how people feel about ghost recon go to the backwards compatible game list and see what everyone has said about ghost recon. We can all admit the game has went to hell even before graw, and why sell a franchise built of milsim, if your going to turn it into a arcade child friendly ewoks unicorns and rainbows game you obviously got the free online ghost recon, and never played ghost recon 1 and 2. Then you would understand that when those games came out everyone loved those games the way they were, their wasnt as many people online back then by the time 360 came out they changed ghost recon to graw alot of players left alot of new players came then cod came out 2 yrs later blew ghost out the water you know why because it wasnt 3rd person, ghost recon took a 5 to 7 year break and came out with that crappy future soldier game and still havent made thir money back on it, But now wildlands is goin to be better rotflmmfao, icall bull s... that game is nothing but a hyped up piece of crap like future soldier sorry but thats the truth, they can salvage the game by making pvp 1st person only
    You do understand the original Ghost Recon was not a true FPS, it was camera reticule/target view only.
    Your passion for FPS I would guess matches my love for TPS.
    Don't bash on TPS simply because you dont like it.
    Also its been TPS since..2006 or so, if you didn't like it then..perhaps you should have stopped.
    We all have our own opinions and views, I did get to play Wildlands and the direction they are going
    is the correct one IMO.

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    Beeing a big fan of the first Ghost Recon, I miss his gameplay and mechanics but you have to understand that games evolve and the community too, I played the pre-alpha and I had that feeling of playing GR1 in some way, still we talked to the dev of bringing that feeling back to the game.

    No one is forcing you to buy the game when it comes out but you'll miss a very good game cause that's what GRWL will be, I had my fun playing it and i'm sure i'm gonna spand some more time with the final version when it's out !!!

    Now you have you're ideas, we don't dicuss that but as Jax told you, you have to respect the others members of the community cause you agreed the forums rules when you created your account to this forum !

    Don't talk to Cortex like that again when he's done more for this community than you and he did it voluntary for us !!! So show some respect to the people of this forum, moderators and members !!!
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  6. #16
    Originally Posted by SanityAgathion Go to original post
    The game had just been announced, its in very early somewhat playable state with half the mechanics probably not working yet, and you are already crying about ruining the franchise? Just wait and see.
    I have to agree with Sanity. Wildlands was just shown at E3 last week, so it is still in it's development infancy. UbiSoft has plenty of time to design a good working Teamwork game and add Clan Support, to make the majority of GR's customers happy.... or mostly happy.

    As long as UbiSoft can learn from it's Rainbow6 Siege's current mistakes and direction, from the RB6 player revolt they have on their hands over on that other Ubi Fourm... there's hope that UbiSoft will see the light and get the Ghost Recon religion again.

    Now for the 3rd person view... I pray it stays!!! I miss that old SOCOM style of game play!!!

    As for the OP... you can see what the Common Core education system, is giving our youth in the schools today.
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    Yeah I am pretty sure i played the first ghost recon that was released..TPS was first on Ghost recon 2(2004). I love TPS better and even though Summit Strike was my Favorite GR..i loved GRAW1 AND GRAW2 because it still had the same GR environment and tactics....now GRFS was horrible..i was GOW hopping through out the whole map. and the maps was not GR we all knew to love on multiplayer.
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    Originally Posted by defiled669cfh Go to original post
    First off no night maps using nvgs sorry play the game even dlc didnt have night maps. And second play the games. The premier showed the exact same 3rd person over the sboulder came pay attention. That rui.ed online game play because the camera would not lock behind corners so chessy people used it with the infamous headshot glitch on a regular basist. Then the covering system was so messed up players were taking advantage of that glitch and became indestructible, such as the guy taged as hec7ic. Everytime ghost comes out it loses people on the multiplayer went from 16 to 12, now it looks like 4. And for my crass friend, how much is ubisoft paying you to be a mediator because you suck. Ive followed this game from its birth, ive seen it in its glory and its downfall. I want ghost recon to be number 1, I want the guys playing arma and the other sim games to see where it all began. Battlefield nor call of dooky held a candle to the first ghost recon games. And if ghost would have stayed with what they were doi.g call of dooky would never see the number one spot. Oh and one more thing my references is to online pvp play if ghost wants to do 3rd person on campaign then good buy onli.e pvp has to be 1st person if they want to make their money back., they did a poll about first person ghost and 3rd. First person killed 3rd. So why ghost recon devs would you make a poll and see the results and not say hey we better make this first person. I love this franchise no matter what but I dont like seei.g it drown in bull s... ideas, bri.g the game play back to its multiplayer roots. And if you haven't played the first 2 ghost recons then please try it then imagine better graphics and more people. Dude they dont have to do anything but remake the first 2 and it will kill whats in the market today so please go play your battlefield or call of dooky. Those games made the path they are on. But bri.g ghost recon back to its milsim roots. Dont let battlefield incorporate a milsim version of that game, and if arma hits consoles its a wrap for those games. Battlefield tried to be innovative hardline is the worst battlefield ever made. Dont believe me look at the sells. Look how many people is online playing. People are bored with this military arcade games the want realistic bullett trajectory they want real guns real explosions and real combat feel. Not another look over the shoulder cam pansy *** game. Ghost recon was never the game people laughed at it was for the hardcore. See I know where it came from rogue spear rainbow six ghost recon all military sims. Stop making it a joke
    I appreciate your commitment to bring Ghost Recon back to its roots, but I think you need to take a look at the current picture when it comes to games. You can cite numbers of copies sold for old Ghost Recon games as much as you want, but if you look at the competition at the time it's obvious as to why people would rather pickup Ghost Recon than some of the other old titles. Ghost Recon was the pioneer and one of the most advanced and exciting games available at the time.

    In this day and age, competition is much more fierce. Battlefield and Call of Duty still have extremely large holds on the shooter players out there, and hardcore games like ArmA and Insurgency have extremely small followings in comparison. To me, Wildlands makes perfect sense from a game design perspective. It's not as hardcore as ArmA or some of the other military simulations which is a good thing for the mass population. I realize you may not agree, since you want Ghost Recon to go all the way back to its military simulation roots, but unfortunately that particular genre doesn't attract nearly as many players nowadays.

    Ghost Recon Wildlands does a good job at bridging the gap between games like Call of Duty and Battlefield, and the hardcore games like ArmA and Insurgency.

    Ubi_Jax has addressed your behavior already, so I'm not going to bother reiterating what was already said in that regard. I'm not paid by Ubisoft, I simply volunteer my time to try and make the forum community a welcoming and helpful environment. If you have issues with my behavior, you can contact me via private message and we can discuss it further.

    We're on the same team here. We both want Ghost Recon Wildlands to be a fantastic game!
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    Originally Posted by RedKnight5 Go to original post
    As long as UbiSoft can learn from it's Rainbow6 Siege's current mistakes and direction, from the RB6 player revolt they have on their hands over on that Ubi Fourm... there's hope that UbiSoft will see the light and get Ghost Recon religion again.
    OT: What happened with Siege? You mean the absence ofsquad AI in single player? That's kind of awkward, or did I miss something else too?
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    I think RedKnight is referring to the state of Siege in general... I've been rather unimpressed by that team to "come back to the Rainbow Six roots" like they promised a long time ago. The game isn't nearly hardcore/tactical enough yet IMO. And some of the mechanics they had during beta were absurd in a Rainbow game, like hit markers and regenerating health. They've removed those things now, but they still have a ways to go IMO.

    That said, I'm going to playing the heck out of TERROHUNT with friends. That game mode is a fantastic cooperative experience.
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