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annis, Spreckels and Bumper Hartmann,
Look around the "Squadron" forum. You will see almost no bickering or "battles of the posts" here. This forum is known for its friendliness and camaraderie. We are here to promote the sport. Please stop.
chill,
WW
[This message was edited by Willi_Wombat on Thu July 08 2004 at 12:44 PM.]
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Willi_Wombat:
annis,
Look around the "Squadron" forum. You will see almost no bickering or "battles of the posts" here. This forum is known for its friendliness and camaraderie. We are here to promote the sport. Please stop.
chill,
WW<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes Sir
Herr Hartmann, if I have offended you, or anyone else in the forum, in anyway, please accept my hartfelt apologies.
Michael Annis
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After thinking this thing out, I have decided to not fly in the dueling hartmann tournament. I do not want to change my name, I enjoy the honour and privledge to fly under his name. I do not care or mind any1 else using "Hartmann" as their screenname. To use Erich Hartmann's name as our own while online is an honour and a privledge, NOT a right.
Oberleutnant Hartmann
Gruppe Stab Biem
IC 2C, IC 1C, GC, KC, OGE,
KC w/.OL, KC w/. OL/Swords
II Gruppe
Jagdgeschwader 11
http://geocities.com/jagdgeschwader11/
"It only takes one bullet to bring a legend crashing."
[This message was edited by II.JG11_Hartmann on Thu July 08 2004 at 11:27 AM.]
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We just had a similar thing with our squad being the 9th. We are the 9th Flying Knights based off the real Flying Knights that flew in the Pacific, here is a few posts from the forum and it all turned out just fine.
" posted 04-07-04 18:53
Hello from 9th AWACS.
We've been around since September 2003.
We also use the 9th_ prefix in Hyperlobby.
Not that it's copyrighted or anything, or that it is going to cause massive confusion. Just thought I'd let you know!
Good luck getting your squad together. It's getting tough to recruit these days!"
our reply
"Hello Anitfreeze,
Thanks for the info. We have been together as the 9th since 2000 with CFS2 and CFS3(yuk), we took a little time from the flight simm's and started playing some BF1942 and decided to fly again with the news of Pacific Fighters. We are flying in IL2 AEP for now and will move over to Pacific Fighters when it releases in Oct. Our squad is modeled after the 9th Flying Knights of the 5th Air Force 49th FG.
We look forward to flying with you and you squad in HL. Feel free to message us.
S~"
And we only run into them in hyperlobby so we decided to change our call sign from 9th_**** to FK9th_**** when in HL. Its all just a game and a great way to releave stress from our daily routeens so no biggy, its all good. Hope you all get it worked out.
S~
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S~
As you will notice I have changed my old forum name (annis6) to my present squadron handle. There should be no further erroe in assuming that I am II/JG11_Hartmann
In re the apology mentioned above. It is not for the idea of the duel but rather the fact that it led to someone being stressed out about it. That wasn't the intention, but rather a way to settle an issue that didn't seem solveable by any other means.
In re: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>You will see almost no bickering or "battles of the posts" here. This forum is known for its friendliness and camaraderie.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes there are plenty of great guys willing to share and advise. And there are the others who love controversy, complaining, and nit-picking a great flight-sim. The game will never be everything that everyone wants in a flight sim, but it is still the best there is beyond measure.
Have fun with it, fly it, and Salute
R. Spreckels
Adjutant - Stab - II/JG11
[This message was edited by IIJG11_Spreckels on Thu July 08 2004 at 11:30 AM.]
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by II_JG1Hartmann:
My post was not to duel anyone for the right to the name it was more to do with why someone would select the name that another cyber pilot already had. More of an issue was the unit name stuff but that slid into the muck as well since its a proven fact you can't have a civial post on forums.
I have no need to "duel" anyone and it would prove nothing since as GAF_Hartmann says I'm not the best cyber pilot just an avid gamer that was looking for some clarification and community feedback. However, I allowed myself to get sucked into post debates again and will just leave you all to your ways.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Alright, enough is enough. II/JG1_Hartmann, you have been at this BS for over a month. Quit it! I'm tired of your complaining, and the way how you think you are "superior minded" to everyone else. How old are you, 10 ? You sure act like it. You have already embarassed your squadron, and degraded its image on a public forum. How much are you willing to risk ? Please lets just quit this, the amount of Hartmanns won't cease, he was one of the best aces of WW II, in fact, the Ace of Aces, and alot of people wish to carry that on. Sorry for the outburst, but this is what I've been wanting to say for over a month. Unless you can show me a birth certificate that is 82 years old, and has "Erich Hartmann" written on it, this discussion is closed.
Oberleutnant Hartmann
Gruppe Stab Biem
IC 2C, IC 1C, GC, KC, OGE,
KC w/.OL, KC w/. OL/Swords
II Gruppe
Jagdgeschwader 11
http://geocities.com/jagdgeschwader11/
"It only takes one bullet to bring a legend crashing."
[This message was edited by II.JG11_Hartmann on Thu July 08 2004 at 11:56 AM.]
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I personally wouldn't want to use a real ace's name because I would really look silly getting shot down over and over again. 
203rd Kokutai
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Bumper Hartmann,
I'd rather not contribute any more to this silly thread, but I must comment on one more thing. If you really do honor and respect Hartmann's name, wouldn't it be honorable and respectful to not act the way you are acting in his name?
WW
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Moderator - Since I opened this thread and my group commander has asked not to carry this any further, would you please close this thread. Thank you