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    Wow the most amazing scores i'e ever seen

    These players must be world record holders, how fast can you collect 200 lums?? just look at these times

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    and the next day

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    AND THIS IS TRUE MASTERY! HOW MANY LUMS CAN YOU COLLECT IN 60 SECONDS??

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    and a few days later

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    how do you do it? love to see a video,well done you guys!

    Edited by Mya: Since "naming and shaming" is forbidden, I've cut the images. But you have been heard
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    Hello siporter,

    I'm Ubi-Mya, your new Community Manager for Rayman. This is the reason why I don't have Mod status yet

    Please know I have read your messages here and on steam.
    Since we do not allow such practices, I have already taken action against some cheaters and will monitor the leaderboards from now.
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    Originally Posted by Ubi-Mya Go to original post
    Hello siporter,

    I'm Ubi-Mya, your new Community Manager for Rayman. This is the reason why I don't have Mod status yet

    Please know I have read your messages here and on steam.
    Since we do not allow such practices, I have already taken action against some cheaters and will monitor the leaderboards from now.
    So the cheaters are finally being removed from the PC version? This is actually a pretty nice development! Thank you very much!
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    Originally Posted by Samuroleon Go to original post
    So the cheaters are finally being removed from the PC version? This is actually a pretty nice development! Thank you very much!
    You are very welcome, I'll do my best
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    Originally Posted by Ubi-Mya Go to original post
    You are very welcome, I'll do my best
    I wont hold my breath, to be honest it seems many people have been complaining about the cheats for a long time and nothings been done.
    im new to this game and i think it deserves more so here's how it is. im going to to write down and continue to take screen shots of these peoples scores and i will be posting them on here and on steam every single day until i see these players have been banned that is a promise, and if they are not banned i will go higher up the ubisoft ladder and be sending emails so we will see....
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    Originally Posted by Ubi-Mya Go to original post
    Hello siporter,

    I'm Ubi-Mya, your new Community Manager for Rayman. This is the reason why I don't have Mod status yet

    Please know I have read your messages here and on steam.
    Since we do not allow such practices, I have already taken action against some cheaters and will monitor the leaderboards from now.
    First I want to say thank you for taking actions about an issue that has been a huge problem for over a year now. Back when this first started being an issue we got many of our forum posts removed so its nice to see this being recognized as an issue finally. I am curious to what extent you're willing or capable of cleaning this issue up. Specifically the invasions have in some cases over 80 cheated scores and it would be really awesome of those could be removed. One issue you might have with removing all these times though is that quite a number of the cheated times are not 0s. Its really easy to spot a 0s cheated time but if the they cheat a time that's close to everyone else's its not as easy to identify. So I'm curious what you would want to do about those times. It's pretty obvious to most of us who regularly play to spot people who are cheating "more realistic" times but I would expect you to be able to easily identify those players.

    Thanks
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    Originally Posted by siporter Go to original post
    im going to to write down and continue to take screen shots of these peoples scores and i will be posting them on here and on steam every single day until i see these players have been banned that is a promise,
    We did this a few months ago and got a warning because of the forum rules.
    Just had to look up if they still exist.

    “Naming and shaming” suspected cheaters is also considered trolling given that it is rarely possible to prove guilt and only causes arguments. If you believe you have a strong case against a suspected cheater please contact the server operator (on PC), report it to the Ubi tech support team. or for console games, to the report a player page for the relevant console network (PSN or XBL)

    So as Ubi-Mya seems to accept your screenshots I'm glad they've finally understood that those people with the impossible times are no "suspected" cheaters.

    And it already has become a lot better in the last days with the cheaters. There are still some but even now it became worthwile again to put some time in it because there a some diamond cups available now even in the collecting-lums challenges.

    Just like caneofpacci said it would be very nice if you could take care of the invasions leaderboards.
    Picking the legit times out of the cheated times should be a mess because not all the times are as easy to identify as a cheat (like the 0,00 times).

    So personally I would be fine even if you would go that far and completely reset all the invasions leaderboards. The best players are still playing this game so nobody should be too concerned about losing their record there (we can't compare them anyway to the other legit players because there is no leaderboard besides the top 10 and this is full of 0,00).

    What do you think? Would resetting the invasions leaderboards be an option for you?
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    Hello everyone,

    “Naming and shaming” suspected cheaters is also considered trolling given that it is rarely possible to prove guilt
    These are screenshots, and I can verify the scores. In this case, it is possible to prove guilt.

    Originally Posted by MrMiyagi76 Go to original post
    So as Ubi-Mya seems to accept your screenshots I'm glad they've finally understood that those people with the impossible times are no "suspected" cheaters.
    We are aware that there are cheaters on PC version, yes. There was a patch of the game (I wasn't here yet when they deployed it, I can't tell you exactly when or what it was), but it seems like they are back. We agree with you: cheating is ruining the fun, and playing is meant to be fun!
    I am very glad siporter posts screenshots - sometimes, our admin tools are acting funny, proofs from the ladder are useful so I won't ban anyone legit...


    Picking the legit times out of the cheated times should be a mess because not all the times are as easy to identify as a cheat (like the 0,00 times).
    As you said, it is really hard to identify the players that don't have the "impossible scores". I'm doing my best but might miss some of them. (But beware of Ubi-Mya, she's coming for you, cheaters, muhahahaha - ahem, sorry 'bout that.)

    So personally I would be fine even if you would go that far and completely reset all the invasions leaderboards. The best players are still playing this game so nobody should be too concerned about losing their record there (we can't compare them anyway to the other legit players because there is no leaderboard besides the top 10 and this is full of 0,00).
    I'll talk about that with my team and get back to you. This is a decision I can't take by myself.
    I'd also be interested if more players came and give us their thoughts about this
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    Awesome. I didn't expect such a fast respond. First time I got the feeling that someone actually cares about us.

    Originally Posted by Ubi-Mya Go to original post
    These are screenshots, and I can verify the scores. In this case, it is possible to prove guilt.
    This wasn't the case half a year ago. We were blamed for braking the forum rules and that those screenshots would lead to nothing and be just a "reward" for those cheaters.
    I could quote that (or look in my inbox as soon as you got mod status) but as it seems that you really try to care for us now, this is an old hat.


    Originally Posted by Ubi-Mya Go to original post
    (But beware of Ubi-Mya, she's coming for you, cheaters, muhahahaha - ahem, sorry 'bout that.)

    No need to sorry about that.
    If there would have been more of that (your) ilk maybe it would be common knowledge that cheating in Ubisoft games has consequences.


    Originally Posted by Ubi-Mya Go to original post
    I'll talk about that with my team and get back to you. This is a decision I can't take by myself.
    I'd also be interested if more players came and give us their thoughts about this
    Yeah that would be cool if you could address that idea at first.

    I know UBI already did this 2010 in another game (Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter).
    And as it's only the leaderboards from the invaded levels in Rayman Legends there should be no problem (there were some issues with the player stats or sth like that.) to reset them.

    I'm going to write my ingame-friends (pretty much all the long-time players) a small message to look in here and pass an opinion about resetting the invaded leaderboards.
    So maybe after the next weekend we already have a more clear conception if this is actually requested.
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    Originally Posted by Ubi-Mya Go to original post
    Hello siporter,

    I'm Ubi-Mya, your new Community Manager for Rayman. This is the reason why I don't have Mod status yet

    Please know I have read your messages here and on steam.
    Since we do not allow such practices, I have already taken action against some cheaters and will monitor the leaderboards from now.
    Hello and Welcome ! it's sooooo nice that there is finally someone around here to take action against these cheaters ! Thanks a lot about that.
    Since you did it last week, a lot of long active cheaters are gone and it's already a lot better for the PC players. Only a few actively cheats since May 14th now (I've counted 7 cheaters !). Here are some screenshots from the last days :

    Daily Extreme Challenge - May 14th (2 obvious cheaters)
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    Daily Challenge - May 15th (1 obvious cheater)
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    Daily Challenge - May 17th (3 obvious cheaters)
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    Daily Extreme Challenges - May 18th (3 obvious cheaters)
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    Also, 4 of these 7 cheaters already cheated on the current Weekly Challenge so far but it's not over yet !
    So if you could could ban these cheaters too, it would be perfect, and means there will be no active cheaters remaining at all. (I know new cheaters will probably come in the future, but it will probably take several weeks until we see 5+ cheaters again.)

    Thanks again
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