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    Who says Shay wasn't mentioned? We don't hear most of the history of Assassins v Templars war, as it was told to Connor, so...
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    ^that's just convenience and grasping lol
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    Originally Posted by Locopells Go to original post
    Who says Shay wasn't mentioned? We don't hear most of the history of Assassins v Templars war, as it was told to Connor, so...
    Indeed; Connor probably brushed it off like how he brushed off Ezio.
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    Connor: So Achilles, how did my father pwned you this hard?

    Achilles: One of my men, Shay, betrayed us and join the Templars, thanks to his inside knowledge of how we work we got pwned.

    Haytham suddenly appears.

    Haytham: Actually all the info he used was provided by us, his inside knowledge was worthless, just saying.

    Haytham leaves.

    Achilles: Anyway, Shay's not an issue, he moved to Europe at some point and never returned, our brothers in Europe tell me he's still there.

    Connor: I see, in that case I won't even bother remembering this conversation.

    Achilles: Do as you please.
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    The only thing that really needs consistency is the modern day stuff. With AC3, AC4, and Rogue, you get a bit of a Christopher Walken with the unattached thoughts. 3 different people with 3 different views on how all of it is working. The small details throughout the memories we have played that dead end or dont add up, I take with a spoon of sugar. Each one of these games tell a really good story nonetheless.
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    Want to see something that visually hurts:

    Here is Connor with Benjamin Franklin during the Deceleration of Independence in 1776:


    Not too soon, he leaves for Paris to enlist aid in France, in 1776....with Shay:


    He knows that Connor is messing with the Templar Order, and being an Assassin Hunter, clearly he would have done something about it! He clearly looks peeved of his mentioning:



    He comes back with the freakin Box, and nothing happened before Shay and Connor!!!!
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    If the story link between these games is a bit stretched, does that mean Ubisoft have
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    STRAINED THIER ACHILLES?!
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    Originally Posted by waynedavies89 Go to original post
    Abigail and Connor were Achilles family and he gave Ratonhnhaké:ton the name Connor almost as a tribute in memory of his lost son.

    I see the holes where no one mentions Shay, but in all honesty if its not relevant to the events of the story at that point in time, is it worth mentioning?

    If I was Achilles, I wouldn't want to talk about the "monster" I inadvertently created or the tragic events that transpired.
    If I was Haytham, Connor already has ample reason to kill me because of Ziio's death and Charles Lee, I don't want to add crippling Connors mentor to the list of grievance.

    ^ I agree with this!

    At first, I kinda liked the idea of Connor and Shay having a confrontation, but now I'm not so keen about it. Connor has no dealings or any reason to quarrel with Shay. Achilles was the one that had a grudge against him, not Connor. The only people that should have a bone to pick with Shay is Eseosa and Arno.
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    IMO the stupidest thing about it is that Shay is apparently well aware of Connor single-handedly shredding the colonial Templars to ruins as early as 1776, but despite being apparently the most accomplished Assassin hunter on the planet, he doesn't do jack sh*t about it and just lets them all die, lol. Scumbag Shay.

    Unless they come out with some BS midquel DLC where Shay returns to America, hastily fathers a child for Animus purposes, and gets #rekt by Connor before the ending of AC3.

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    Rogue really could be a fanfic
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