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[BigSh0tRob]

100% Agree with DJ.
This thread is beyond ridiculous.

Edit: Look, i never watch streams and twitch isn't part of my daily internet routines.
I just sat through that whole playing funks track thing for nothing, expecting DJ to hurl some outrageous abuse at your track..
Im all like... oh sweet! Trials drama!! lolol but nope! thanks for wasting my time.

Those guys just sat there all calm, talking about your track in a friendly positive way.
They didn't say anything close to something that warrants a thread such as this one.
Quite frankly i think its a pretty embarrasing post.

My thoughts on your track from watching the video:

Nice colorful looks. Actually more creative decoration than a lot of the RedLynx made Fusion official SuperX tracks so far.
Driving line looked pretty bad, sorry. And the track is way too short.

Overal an okay track, nothing more.

[Stego111]

Driving line looked pretty bad, sorry. And the track is way too short.

That's not very constructive. Why is it bad? How did it being bad make you feel?

And what is too short? Relative to what length? How was this standardization for length determined? How will this determined length make other people feel?

The nerve.

[BigSh0tRob]

LOL!! Thanks for that Stego

I may not be equipped enough intellectually to explain my exact in-depth feelings about a track
and i dont possess the knowledge of track creation or game developing to be super constructive either.

Maybe there should be like a special certificate that people can earn,
to be allowed to post their opinions about the game they payed for.

Or perhaps there should be a system where we have a group of "approved members"
whose posts are the only ones visible on the site..
Everyone elses post shall be locked, behind a triple captcha, wich you will need to pass before being able to see those other posts.

Is this post "trolling" ?? i dont know anymore.
I hate that stupid word. Im just being real and the way i am is that i use comedy a lot to express myself. It keeps things light you know?
Sorry for being me Ubisoft. Maybe i should fuse with a machine so i wont be such a flawed HUMAN anymore!

[fleskeknoke]

i just watched it. Funk, i didnt get "ripped to shreds" not at all...
I think ...comming from art communities, i have noticed that many creative ppl, advanced or novice, take crit way to personal
and feel, just like you do now, that they are being attacked, singled out etc.....

i myself was being yelled at and slapped around in photography and art forums for years, what dj said in the streem is really absolutely nothing...really nothing.
That would be considered nice, where i come from at least. But i do understand how crit can also sting, no matter how nice.
maby you should think about what is being said and try step a little back from your work, and try look again.
You can only get better if you try analyze crit insted of being so defensive.

[Rishaan]

LOL!! Thanks for that Stego

I may not be equipped enough intellectually to explain my exact in-depth feelings about a track
and i dont possess the knowledge of track creation or game developing to be super constructive either.

Maybe there should be like a special certificate that people can earn,
to be allowed to post their opinions about the game they payed for.

Or perhaps there should be a system where we have a group of "approved members"
whose posts are the only ones visible on the site..
Everyone elses post shall be locked, behind a triple captcha, wich you will need to pass before being able to see those other posts.

Is this post "trolling" ?? i dont know anymore.
I hate that stupid word. Im just being real and the way i am is that i use comedy a lot to express myself. It keeps things light you know?
Sorry for being me Ubisoft. Maybe i should fuse with a machine so i wont be such a flawed HUMAN anymore!

Your posts are cracking me up. Thank you.



@funk Yeah, I think you took the feedback completely wrong funk. I listened to it and DJ really didn't bash your track. He just wanted to get his point across about the theme not being coherent.
You are always talking about how you want to be a better track creator etc. The fact that you already have some of your tracks x-platformed should mean something from your point of view and tbh you are in a state of track-creating that your tracks need to get nitpicked otherwise there wouldn't be anything to talk about that could be improved. I don't know about you, but I'd rather have someone point out every little thing that the person thinks should/could be done differently, than him praising everything. That way you can think about the different views you have on the subject and act on it accordingly.

Making this thread was not really necessary at all, you could have spend your time pm'ing DJ and ask him why he was (in your eyes) tearing apart your track.

[funktastic-]

I have been sat here for 3 hours trying to get my post correct and after i just read it its blooming going to cause more grief so i deleted it and will ust say this

I am use to knock backs,, had so many and got my self back up , use to critisism in most areas of everything so this isnt something that i would annoy me if i didnt have a good enough reason.

Dj is a proffesional he should have picked up on all the good things in the track imediatly , the fact i hardly copied andpasted any lanes , the fact of the vairations , the fact of the detail the fact that there was deication and patience gone into that track. I am sure and can gurantee it that if he plays this track again and continues to play it i will no doubt will owe me an apology but that snever going to happen , because making out my trak is full of negativity is something in which he is wrong about. His appraoch to my track was like an approach a noob has to a track they download from tc , they dont see the things which makes a good track , dont see the art or creativeness. Which i was very shcoked because i thought he would see this instread of focusing on one factor of the build

if people take alook in shiftys list it lists what judges will take into account and i can say i can tick off every single one of those from my own prespective and one of someone elses with great stature in this game. His constand picking of faults on my tack and nobody else was unprofessional , there was no need to make such a big issue over one topic. \say it and move on but no dj kept harping on about it most of the test.

The track was free from glitches as i removed any , i duplicated other ramps made them invisible over other platform to remove this and had certain object changing as it does with an enviroment as rough as a toix sewer would be and tried to be creative with having the objects change and keep it new as you ride the track instead of having the same things come alog ,its called being creative dj and trying to portray and ever changing world but i still ketp to the theme over a toxic playground so to stpeak, I used a fictional place so this would be fine to do this as the word fictioan is apprent and leaves room to be creatvie. Doing all this i still kept to the theme by using rough and older object like the rustland stuff and the last dlc stuff mainly. This gave the tracks its theme in which i am so confused as to why a professional would not see this. In most xcrossplatofmed tracks the gerneral use of objects are not a rule as i have noticed however i used this but still keeping in the theme and using only a few dlcs which used only the rough and old looking object to portray the toix sewer theme. There was a theme there was actaully everything that was suppose to be taken into account but wasnt and much more. The camera i agree i had an issue withit following the rider which didnt look cool so i moved it back alittle , i dont think it matter ed much as you was at the end and the bike rolled off to the finish anyway so i didnt see any harm in it.

There was so much in that track that wasnt taken into acount like the list suggested and i spent day and days doing that even tickign the list off trying to buidl a great track , yet the track was treated with noob eyes and for me was very dissrespectful of dj to ignore what was awsome and dedication went into creating it.

tried to explain why i am so annoyed and still failed but its most likely my fault for being annoyed..i am being a moany get i know but dam i thought ti t was a good track also had it on good authority it was too , guess not

sorry flek wanted to responde to you but i have been here ages , i agree mate i am being defensive but i feel i should defend my track because i think he is wrong. agreed tho i should not have said anything but its not fair i was singled out at all , when i say not fair i just dont see why this would happen. why choose to be so focal on my track an let other which had far more issues i noticed go by.

End of the day djs harped on about my theme saying it was mixed but atleast it tried and had one , the one he liked had no theme and no decor had no detai;l

Rob , its not about whats said , its about that it was said about my track alone and so much was ignored about my track. U can openly see shogun trying ot add some positives yet to no avail. It doesnt takerocket scicene. there was 2 point int he track this happned one was when dj liked a track and one when he didnt , one was the winner and one was my track which wasnt liked. The winner aint going to have a problem , but obviously the opposite side of the coin is going to be a different matter.

[Rishaan]

i agree with you i am most likely sounding off at just feeling embarresed that my track has been classed as crap by a profroessional , im angry that only the theme was taken into account manily and everything else wasnt taken into account

I don't think he ever mentioned your track being classed as crap. It seemed more a discussion between DJ and Shogun about the theme and not at all DJ crapping on the theme.

If he dislikes the theme so bad and the objects , wall i say is at least it had some , that to me contredicts is track he liked the most which hardly had any theme or no background no decor and no detail althought thats no judgment on that track form myself but on dj saying 2my track has no theme and the object change " well least i took time to put some in dj.
none is is aimed at anyoe i just dont understand this proces one bit and dont understand some people at all. I dont get where dj can sit there call my track for not having a thtme eand then say a track with out one or a minimalist one is fantasitc. Im so confused with this game and the way the feedback is apprently given...

Don't recall him saying your track doesnt have a theme, from what I understood, the objects you used were too varied to make the theme clear and what everything exactly was supposed to be in the "tox-city".

I entered this comp because i like to build and i thought the list was there for a reason and that they judged for that reason not on prefference.

sorry flek im still annoyed and if i have souded off i haven tmeant it towards you dude .. and i neither dol grudges so i dont hold one against shifty but if i do make another track for a comp i will just be chucking an 12 hour build in.. why bother when its not look at correctly and things takne into account liek they ask for.

Best advice I can give is to never build for someone else. Build because you like spending time in the editor. Yes, getting a few hundred dl is nice to see, but in the end you should be glad with the final product, not what it gives you in terms of dl's or recognition.

[DJ_2wItchY]

The amount of false allegations you are throwing is getting concerning. Please stop.

Again I apologize for any feedback given on your tracks. You are completely entitled to your opinions. I will not give you any feedback ever again. But please, give the absurd allegations a rest!

The VOD is clearly visible for everyone.

[Retribution]

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Thanks to Shifty's translation, i was able to understand the dialogue between Sho and Dj and it is NOT at all what you make it out to be. Even if i made a track and was fortunate enough to have RL sit down and give my track a good go, that is exactly how i would have wanted to hear it- the criticism, feedback bouncing back and forth if there was any issues whatsoever within the track. I was going to get on your track and see if there was anything good about it, but you are taking this wayyy too far so i changed my mind. Don't hold your head up too high next time you release something, it helps to stay humble sometimes.

[distrust74]

I`d say the critizism was entirely harmless. Actually it was contructive feedback.
It gave technical context, e.g. explaining that the small performance issues could be caused by too many lights, or advising to keep tracks simple in the first section where all players are visible.
It`s stuff you could take in and learn from, or choose to ignore it if your opinion differs.

I take it this was the first time you shared some creative work and didn`t get the reaction you hoped for. If you keep doing that kind of work, as hobby or professional, it will happen over and over again, no matter how good you are. You don`t have to be happy about it, no artist ever is, but you might want to find better ways to deal with it.