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  1. #1

    For Far Cry 5 Multiplayer to succeed Ubisoft has to do only one thing...

    LISTEN!!! Listen Listen Listen Listen Listen Listen Listen Listen LISTEN! For YEARS now we've been telling you EXACTLY what it takes to make an amazing FC MP experience and we've been completely 100% ignored getting features we never asked for and only one single time getting a feature we asked for (vehicles in FC4 MP). You've heard from us 100,000 times how absolutely terrible and insulting your MP effort has been so I'm not going to go into that. I also know that you have absolutely NO intention of apologizing for the deliberate deception directed towards the map making community so I won't get into that either. But because other companies (as well as you) are too stupid to realize they've got an untapped GOLD mine I'm forced to come back to this wretched company in the hopes that things can get better. Things have been absolutely terrible for you lately Ubi and are going to continue to get worse when Ubisoft Montreal shows yet again they are incapable of making MP games.

    So here's what you have to do to get the ball rolling towards fixing your company and this franchises MP:

    1) Fire the person/people responsible for making decisions about MP features. They have absolutely lost touch with what we want and have shown no signs of the ability to make good decisions.

    2) TALK TO US!! Don't just read our comments... RESPOND TO US! Tell us why you like our ideas! Tell us why you DON'T like our ideas! Tell us why our ideas aren't realistic!

    3) Open the discussion BEFORE you make your decisions! Instead of gathering data about how we play ASK us how we WANT to play! For an instance you looked at FC3s MP data and saw that people were mostly using the editor for singleplayer maps and not for MP. You came to the conclusion that people don't want to use the editor for MP. This ABYSMAL decision happened because FC3s MP was so atrocious the tons of map makers out there didn't WANT to make maps for it! Give us GOOD MP and we'll make millions of MP maps!

    4) STOP... COUNTING... DOLLARS!! I know this is a business. I know you want huge profits. I understand that. You know what? I LOVE throwing money at companies that CARE! You don't! You make these games for the purpose of making money. Smaller developers make their games out of passion in the hopes that enough people out there share their passion to make it profitable. You've COMPLETELY lost this.

    5) Give us the singleplayer treatment! You post tons... and tons... and tons... and tons of SP content before release... Then we maybe get a MP video. Gee... I wonder why people think MP is tacked on...

    Okay... take a look at that fancy banner at the top of the page... pretty diverse cast huh? But wait! Where's your Call of Duty? Which one is your Battlefield? What's this? You don't have one?!? Heck... you don't even have a HALO up there! I know it... you know it... everybody knows a massive company like Ubisoft is just BEGGING to finally get that MP cash cow hit. FAR CRY CAN BE THAT GAME!!! Help us help YOU make this what it can be!
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    I read this wall of text twice and still I don't know what they have to do. Your "one thing" seems to be 5 things, none of them telling what would the perfect MP be like. I think they got it almost perfect this time. Next time enable playing the whole campaign from start to end in coop and I am satisfied. For PvP there are other games better suited for it.
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    Come on guys...

    Come on guys, we are talking about Ubi here... they didn't give a **** about the multiplayer feedback for FC3 and that just says how serious this company is. It's not true that the game didn't sold well, it actually reached more than 5 millions if you check on vgchartz, and this means that they will focus even more on SP and less on MP. I've been an huge Ubi fan but they disappointed me a lot with their last games (SC, W_D and obviously FC) they never cared about keeping a community united and alive... come on look at BF3 it is really old and it's still supported. Just let it go guys seriously. That ****head named Hutchinson didn't even bother about bringing back the MP map editor (funny thing is that the PC version has a server browser), they sold 6+ millions so who cares?
    BTW they already have a MP cashcow, and that cashcow is named The Division. Too bad it is developed by Massive. The guys that ruined FC3 MP. Hopefully they will make it bad so Ubi will lose more customers.
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    If FarCry 5 doesn't support the last gen consoles that keep on dragging the quality down, then Ubisoft will be able to do a lot more with multiplayer AND singleplayer as they won't have to downgrade it on all platforms to stop last gen from glitching out. If you know what I'm trying to say here.
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    Far Cry 2 multiplayer is key here. It just allll comes back to Far Cry 2. Even with the singleplayer. Ugh! I wish I never supported Far Cry 4 tbh, Like Destiny and Battlefield.. NO MORE $$ UNTIL I SEE A REVIEW.
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    Originally Posted by CHAINSAW305 Go to original post
    NO MORE $$ UNTIL I SEE A REVIEW.
    Don't even trust reviews, most of those are dirty as well. Anyway I agree with VincentMuzzare.. Ubi will likely focus more on SP with those sales.
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    Originally Posted by usmovers_02 Go to original post
    LISTEN!!! Listen Listen Listen Listen Listen Listen Listen Listen LISTEN! For YEARS now we've been telling you EXACTLY what it takes to make an amazing FC MP experience and we've been completely 100% ignored getting features we never asked for and only one single time getting a feature we asked for (vehicles in FC4 MP). You've heard from us 100,000 times how absolutely terrible and insulting your MP effort has been so I'm not going to go into that. I also know that you have absolutely NO intention of apologizing for the deliberate deception directed towards the map making community so I won't get into that either. But because other companies (as well as you) are too stupid to realize they've got an untapped GOLD mine I'm forced to come back to this wretched company in the hopes that things can get better. Things have been absolutely terrible for you lately Ubi and are going to continue to get worse when Ubisoft Montreal shows yet again they are incapable of making MP games.

    So here's what you have to do to get the ball rolling towards fixing your company and this franchises MP:

    1) Fire the person/people responsible for making decisions about MP features. They have absolutely lost touch with what we want and have shown no signs of the ability to make good decisions.

    2) TALK TO US!! Don't just read our comments... RESPOND TO US! Tell us why you like our ideas! Tell us why you DON'T like our ideas! Tell us why our ideas aren't realistic!

    3) Open the discussion BEFORE you make your decisions! Instead of gathering data about how we play ASK us how we WANT to play! For an instance you looked at FC3s MP data and saw that people were mostly using the editor for singleplayer maps and not for MP. You came to the conclusion that people don't want to use the editor for MP. This ABYSMAL decision happened because FC3s MP was so atrocious the tons of map makers out there didn't WANT to make maps for it! Give us GOOD MP and we'll make millions of MP maps!

    4) STOP... COUNTING... DOLLARS!! I know this is a business. I know you want huge profits. I understand that. You know what? I LOVE throwing money at companies that CARE! You don't! You make these games for the purpose of making money. Smaller developers make their games out of passion in the hopes that enough people out there share their passion to make it profitable. You've COMPLETELY lost this.

    5) Give us the singleplayer treatment! You post tons... and tons... and tons... and tons of SP content before release... Then we maybe get a MP video. Gee... I wonder why people think MP is tacked on...

    Okay... take a look at that fancy banner at the top of the page... pretty diverse cast huh? But wait! Where's your Call of Duty? Which one is your Battlefield? What's this? You don't have one?!? Heck... you don't even have a HALO up there! I know it... you know it... everybody knows a massive company like Ubisoft is just BEGGING to finally get that MP cash cow hit. FAR CRY CAN BE THAT GAME!!! Help us help YOU make this what it can be!
    I haven't been on the forums for a while, but I just wanted to respond to this
    Ubisoft Montreal, did, not, make, the multiplayer in Far Cry 4. The last time they made the multiplayer for their game was for Far Cry 2, which we loved. Both FC3 and FC4's multiplayer modes have been passed on to other studios. Montreal made the editor however, and the issue isn't that they don't listen. They do, they've heard us a billion times, and I know they know what we want. They did add coop support for FC4 recently as taken from the campaign mode, and I know that's not what we want ultimately, but it's proof that they're trying.

    Now, I don't intend to lurk around here as much as I used to, so hate me for my opinion if you want to, but I HONESTLY believe what we can/should do for a higher chance of an awesome, FC2-style multiplayer in FC5 instead of the boring FC3/FC4 ones, is to try to reach out to the guys who pass out FC's multiplayer modes to smaller studios who we don't know or communicate with, and inform them (in a polite and mature manner, I know most people here are awesome guys!! ) that Far Cry has a lot of potential if they do it right. Like you said, they are sitting on a gold mine, and if we could convince them that they really do, and they decide it's a smart choice to listen to us as a group of the Far Cry following (they own the game, so they have the choice not to listen in the same way we have the choice not to buy it even if we want it to be as awesome as possible).

    Personally, I hope Montreal is given the responsibility to develop the next multiplayer, because those guys listen (after all, I spoke to them), and they want us to be happy. If you don't believe me, fine, but please, let's take this seriously <3

    (this is a responde to the whole thread BTW )
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    Originally Posted by Sabotur Go to original post
    The OP is correct. If I was a Dev at Ubi tho, it would be difficult for me to accept it because it sounds like someone starting a fight and in an argument you kinda try to protect yourself. But the OP is correct.

    If anyone at Ubi reads this.. the OP is actually right in what he says... maybe not all of it but a good chunk of it is pretty much spot on.

    The PvP side of things went from fantastic in FC2 to pretty lousy in FC3 with a difficult matchmaking system and now is more or less omitted from FC4 (no player made maps which was the big success of FC2) While the map editor really is fantastic for making single player and coop player levels, theres so much more the fans can do in regard to the PvP if only we have the same hosting rights as we had in FC2.

    It does baffle me why the same system that worked so well in FC2 was not introduced again. Progress for progress's sake is not progress as you know, its just change... and change is not necessarily a good thing, especially if it is worse than the previous situation.

    I dont think UBi even need to make MP maps. If the mappers just had the platform to make them then they would. And there would be a great MP as a result. I'm not just making this up, its based on alot of experience hosting and playing multiplayer games over the last 15 years or so.

    Although Alex mentioned that he is unsure of how much truth there is in fan-based opinions - how could my proposition be any worse than the current one?
    That would be great! FC4 does have a nice system with the top rated maps in different genres, so if they could implement that with random PVP maps that would be pretty cool, and we wouldn't end up with playing.... Well, those very "basic" maps we saw a lot of in FC3
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  9. #9

    Bring the Human element back

    Originally Posted by Lillestoel Go to original post
    That would be great! FC4 does have a nice system with the top rated maps in different genres, so if they could implement that with random PVP maps that would be pretty cool, and we wouldn't end up with playing.... Well, those very "basic" maps we saw a lot of in FC3
    Yes....... I agree 100% I love the story's they produce and I have a vary high opinion of every thing they do and create for all the world it see. Brilliant game. I personal thought the game story was better in far cry 3. Just not feeling it in 4. As far as the Multi player, lost a heavy amount of interest in playing the MP. I just don't see the point. Id rather play Halo.

    Far Cry 2 won me over as far as the best game I've ever played. I am sorry, the best game I have every played. UT was there but it got killed when it went to 360. Far Cry MP gave us something eles that no other game out there had for years and still dose. I really hope they just remaster it and pop it on Xbox One. I think that's all people want. When it comes to the MP part of it. We live for custom maps and the worlds people create from around the planet. People are awesome and you took that human element away from us.

    We just want to get back to it. I don't want to complain but..... I have to Because I have such love for the story of this game and the playable content; in Far Cry 2. The whole game was one big fantastic piece of artwork. I did not discover the MP until two years later after its release date...... and when I did. It changed my life for years. It brought me back to playing on my 120" project screen during campaign days, as I was immersed in this lush world. I Remember feeling like I had really explored Africa in real life. I started playing MP and saw all those who built maps and themes..... It was such a great Experience. I was truly in awe by it all. I made my own maps and felt great when people started playing them.

    Then I saw my true talent as an artist editing other peoples maps and making them have the spark. The one where you say, wow; this looks amazing !

    Something I have not told you, I am handicap. Missing my left hand. It has always been hard for for me to play games. The struggle was truly real as they say. So I found my place helping shape great MP levels, matches and most of all,; experiences that would last past the short lived hype of CoD, as they come out with a game every 6 months. Thats all gone now. I feel like there is this hole, sadness that I am powerless to do any thing about. Every one that I played with from around the world is just gone. Far Cry game meant something, let me be a part of something bigger then myself. Showed me that I have this talent locked away for creation. I felt sooooo good just watching people have fun. I got more enjoyment out of that then I ever let on.

    Just writing this is hard with my condition, I spent a lot of time taking the time to do this. With out being hateful of disrespectful. Please, if anything. Just remaster the Far Cry 2 MP side and let us enjoy it once again.

    There's so much more to my far cry 2 experience then I can writ here. Just know that one single feature, MP dedicated servers with a nice list of playable matches people from around the world hosted, was a life changer for me. In short, you caused me to make a custom controller that I could use just to play with my friends in England on your game.

    - Alexander Wayne, TheArmLessWonder
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