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[TeriXeri]

Thanks En0.

I was thinking about making an X-Supercross for the HW Challenge. Are the bugs you listed there the only ones, or is there a thread I should check out for the all the bugs? I wanted to include one OPE thing, but I'll take it out if it messes up like you say

Test it during a run in the editor, multiple times, and see how it behaves after checkpoint restart.

Generally a simple OPE like a 360 rotation that's always on will work as seen in Flame Wars (rotating rings), or BBC Future Past (rotation fans in the background).

More complex things that need enable/disable state/position/triggers/impulse delay etc. can mess up as they do not reset as intended on restarts.

But even a sound/effect will stay on as long as it isn't told to go to disable as they won't change their state on restart.

I would especially not use any physics/OPE that alters the driveline right now.

[JolanXBL]

..." well it happens " or it cant be moderated is not really good enough when you expect real creators to keep this game alive with real effort. When i upload a track i do not want to see it be pushed down the feed by someone falling off a cliff or with not even any objects in the track at all. Or one with 3 obects and 4 secs long.

I think I have to agree with Funk on this. I load up TC for inspiration but get depressed when the good stuff isn't around. I feel like, Why am I submitting anything when THIS is what people really want to play? My best track on EVO was a bball spoof, unlike the Copter and Platformer. The ones that get the ratings:

• The Ninja's with stupidly-hard first obstacles.
  Nobody will rate them down because only the pros can even rate them.
• Planes that stop mid-air & pass through the terrain, Cars that glide along & spin.
  Made with OPE or Directional Force; do they even know the Editor forum exists?
• Vaguely-detailed Beginner-editor tracks.
  Either these or 100 copies of the Example tracks. No tutorials readily available for the n00bs, no way to remove your mess. What else can you do? Perhaps if someone were to create an instruction manual as a Skill Game, then get it promoted to FusionCommunity, it would be seen by all and ready in-game.

Remember wrenches & what they were used for? Bring them back & give them to the quality tracks. Don't ask people to nominate someone though because everyone will say their friend. Just hand them off to anyone who shows up in RL picks. This 'Fusion Community' profile isn't working cause we still don't know who created them in the first place, on which platform!

As for moderating TC, it can't be done. Newbies would become offended that they aren't part of the clique, and the ones we trusted could just keep everything for themselves, if you catch my meaning.

[IImayneII]

Remember wrenches & what they were used for? Bring them back & give them to the quality tracks. Don't ask people to nominate someone though because everyone will say their friend.

Like I said before, a wrench-like system would be good. But not just a system where they get handed out because we know where that leads. A system with rules, where you can apply for a wrench when you meet requirements would probably be better imo.

[Jonny]

I really like the idea of an approved builder feed where all tracks go from builders who are consistently producing content worth playing. It would be a lot easier to set up that individual tracks.

[fleskeknoke]

approved builder feed

yes absolutely yes... that would be super

[VEGASTRASH]

I know some think TC can't be modified due to the sheer volume of tracks uploaded. If you do the math correctly, you would only need view 4 tracks per hour on the ps4.
Make it an easy number of 100 tracks per day.
If you could browse 30 tracks in an hour, just over 3 hours total time spent per day. 3 mods per system.
If someone got bent because there track wasn't verified, they can simple do better next time and follow the guidelines.

[DJ_2wItchY]

Nobody needs to moderate track central. It is for everyone.

Things that should be moderated are Illegal content. NOT "I don't like/approve the quality of this track"

Please give it a rest. There are so many builders out there that have creative minds that want to just build what they like and upload it and feel free to share and guess what! They are absolutely free to do that. We don't need people putting people down because certain people think they are not worthy.

Everyone is equal in the ability to share, applaud people for trying, admire people for being creative because again... guess what!! we all started somewhere. I made a lot of very bad tracks. But I was lucky to get the great feedback It did to strive me on to make better on the feedback given. Oh look where I am now.. I'm here because of awesome feedback from friends and strangers.

Start doing the same than pushing potential awesome creative people away because you don't think it's good enough. So much creativity gets wasted by others negativity before it even begins...

[IImayneII]

Nobody needs to moderate track central. It is for everyone.

I don't think the main idea from people here is to moderate the whole of TC, wich isn't even practically possible. But to highlight good content/builders better, wich doesn't really have a straightforward answer. I don't see why you think people want to kill creativity when it's the other way around.

To me, what Track Central for the most part does (by wich I mean like/dislike system), is not highlight quality, it doesn't set standards, wich might confuse newcomers with 'what is a good track'. Wich is fine on it's own, but that's why RL added feeds like 'uplay recommended,featured builder'. To form some sort of standard troughout the whole mess of TC.


I still think a system like I proposed would be descent for that. It also adds a more community feel, for estableshed builders, as well as new-builders. It would maybe push more new builders to the forum also.

[VEGASTRASH]

Nobody needs to moderate track central. It is for everyone.

Things that should be moderated are Illegal content. NOT "I don't like/approve the quality of this track"

Please give it a rest. There are so many builders out there that have creative minds that want to just build what they like and upload it and feel free to share and guess what! They are absolutely free to do that. We don't need people putting people down because certain people think they are not worthy.

Everyone is equal in the ability to share, applaud people for trying, admire people for being creative because again... guess what!! we all started somewhere. I made a lot of very bad tracks. But I was lucky to get the great feedback It did to strive me on to make better on the feedback given. Oh look where I am now.. I'm here because of awesome feedback from friends and strangers.

Start doing the same than pushing potential awesome creative people away because you don't think it's good enough. So much creativity gets wasted by others negativity before it even begins...

I'm not trying to go back and forth, but I think my view is misperceived. I wish TC had moderation when I started building. It would have been great to know and adhere to certain parameters when building something. I would have gotten better at building faster. The moderating wouldn't entail...I don't like his build...it could be better...not approved.
Much like a contest...track central should have certain guidelines for approved tracks...not saying any upload.
Can you go on TC and browse the feed and tell me people are actually improving on the whole...or do most just upload mediocre efforts...not even tracks?
You have a few types who build on TC. People who care about getting better at building, then those who literally throw objects up. Both are free to create...100% correct. However, if I'm new to the series and see the current state of the feed...I honestly would not go back to it.
By instilling guidelines for approved tracks...you bring up the level of building, but every effort would be allowed to be uploaded and viewed by all. So there is no iron fist.
And last, approved tracks wouldn't mean in game quality builds or uplay picks...just basic guidelines to follow.

llmaynell: it's entirely possible to moderate TC. Im not sure why a few don't think it is. With the current number of ps4 uploads today...I could do it myself....for free.
Initially, there are more uploads when a game is released...but even that would be possible. One good guideline for uploading...one track per 48 hours. This right there would cut out 70% of the waste. These things aren't that complex, yet people seem to think there is no way to moderate/improve TC. Ninja feed, challenge feed, etc. all would create a better environment.

Damn, I've been hanging with Funk too long...epic wall of text.

[Just_Shogun]

I'm not here to argue, just making a statement of fact. TC will never be moderated for quality. The whole point of TC is that anybody who wants to try building a track can build and share a track. Period. Track Central is for everybody who baught Trials no matter what their skill level. We will not exclude people from uploading tracks unless they abuse the platform.

[Just_Shogun]

I'm not here to argue, just making a statement of fact. TC will never be moderated for quality. The whole point of TC is that anybody who wants to try building a track can build and share a track. Period. Track Central is for everybody who baught Trials no matter what their skill level. We will not exclude people from uploading tracks unless they abuse the platform.