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Shifty: I agree that what tracks are worthy is somewhat subjective, at least for a Uplay pick. I'm speaking about tracks that meet a criteria...always visible driveline, attempt at decor or a style, over 18 seconds, etc...similar to contest criteria. If a track meets these, it goes in the Trials feed. It would have nothing to do with opinions.
I'm not suggesting someone go through the 35k tracks already up there. If there were just a few mods per platform, it would take minimal time to regulate tracks. Think of the time many spend on TC and the forums. The guys who moderate the forums for free. Certainly, having a few people moderate TC would not be a big undertaking. You could probably view 40 tracks an hour. Assign certain mods difficulty levels. With the number of tracks produced today, it wouldn't take long to do.
This is the biggest issue with track central. People put anything up because a simple one checkpoint "track" can rate high with minimal creativity or time spent on making it.
I know this won't be done, but the mods for TC would be a huge help in filtering all the crap. Sure, you'd be left with far fewer tracks, but it would bring the overall design up. Criteria is a must, otherwise you get what is there today...garbage everywhere.
Damn, you just got hit with a Funky wall of text.
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People could upload anything. It just wouldn't be in the Approved Tracks feed. What do those tracks even add to track central?Originally Posted by RoguishRonin Go to original post
Track central is great because of the talented creators on there putting in time and creativity to make something they think is solid.
A person can create whatever they'd like and not everyone wants to put in the time, nor has the skillset in making tracks a few do. Following guidelines would only improve the overall quality.
In short, a track that I didn't like but met the criteria would be in the approved tracks feed. Challenges or single checkpoints...separate feed. Ninjas...separate feed.
I bet more than half of the volunteer forum mods would gladly do it at no charge.
I understand your point of allowing anything to be accepted...and it would, just not as an approved track....simply because it is not. A one checkpoint ninja...to me, is not a track and I've made a few.
The points I made are to improve TC and encourage creativity and real building...it's not to be a Nazi and say "your track is unworthy" muhahahah.
I'm sure giving random mods access to the TC tools isn't an easy thing to do in the corporate world, so I could see it not happening on that alone. Worst case scenario, try it...it fails, go back to the old way.
Shifty, do you really think TC has a lot of quality builds? Maybe 2% are worth playing...maybe. Why not change it.
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While I would love to see something like this, I just don't see this happening from a practical standpoint alone. You would need mods checking out every track, every day. Who is willing to do that for months on a row, you could have mods drop out after a while, who is going to replace them quickly...Originally Posted by VEGASTRASH Go to original post
Like you say, maybe 2% are worth playing, wich I think the recommended feed is a good solution for, even tough some tracks are still left out. Only thing that would really help I think, is seperate consistent good builders from others, like the wrench system evo had. But we all know how that turned outBut I still think that would be a good solution, if done properly, with maybe a ruleset so you can apply somewhere for a "wrench" when you meet the criteria instead of people just randomly picking builders to give them one.
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Well if it was moderated then there wouldnt be 3k track just made out of pipes in the first place would there , my main point in why i posted is because i have an exact example. I recently made a track and uploaded it to hard. Within a space of a few hours my track was pushed down about 2 or 3 lines by a track and a few others that had taken 5 mins to make and i mean 5 minutes. It wasnt even a track it was someone falling of the edge of a cliff. There was also one with 3 obects in it which in total took 4 or 5 secs to make and a few more. This in my opinion is an annoyance to builders and should have something done about it. While people continue to make tracks with thought and effort the likes of the rider falling off a cliff and 3 objects should not be available for gamers to use this as a way to push tracks down the feed. There is no excuse for this to be ignore when people are trying to make tc a better place with quality tracks or i should say any track that is a track atleast.Originally Posted by RoguishRonin Go to original post
The excuse " well it happens " or it cant be moderated is not really good enough when you expect real creators to keep this game alive with real effort. When i upload a track i do not want to see it be pushed down the feed by someone falling off a cliff or with not even any objects in the track at all. Or one with 3 obects and 4 secs long. I think having feeds linked to what quality somehow would stop all this. All the pants and rubbish uploaded should be available to do so by gamers but should be correctly placed. Junk should go where junk is put and someone falling off a cliff and a 3 object track is pure and simple , junk and shouldnt be allowed to push peoples hard work down the feeds , just because they can.
Hope it didnt come across wrong , just wanted to give an example and one came up last night so thought i would share it.
edit , if i didnt say " a man falling of a cliff enough , here it is again hahahah
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How many gamers spend hours a day online gaming? Too many to count. Take your consistent poster on here, a forum mod, avid fan, etc. It would be easy to moderate TC. Just look at the time played by some of the top players...a gross amount of time, simply gross. People would line up to moderate for free.Originally Posted by IImayneII Go to original post
There are always a ton of reasons not to implement something. This is a free service and would only need the coding set up. It's a matter of the importance in quality of TC is to the game creator.
You could also verify track builders on platforms and develop just that feed.
It's funny to me when people bring up the amount of time this would take, yet gamers waste more time than any group I know...has anyone seen Twitch? I'm guilty of it myself. Time is never a problem when people obsess over making track for a small audience and spend countless hours improving their rank in a video game. Maybe time would be a better argument in another arena.
People spend 50 hours making a track for how many downloads....400? How is this logical...moderating would be a fraction of that time and yield a stronger TC.
I would gladly spend an hour a day to moderate TC.
Again, there always reason to not do something.
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Originally Posted by VEGASTRASH Go to original post
I think you mean 'wasting time on something they love doing, without any restrictions/rules'. Don't confuse any moderating job with that, it will take more than "an hour a day" to moderate TC with a system like that. Because if you do impelemt it you will have to set up rules, you can't expect RL to import that system and mods can do whatever/whenever they want. If you want things like that to work, you need consistency too, RL is after all still a company. So each day you will have to spend X amount of time checking ALL tracks released from let's say 24 hours. You will need to finish all of them too, so there is a verification you actually played the track so people don't complain. If you have multiple people doing it, you need to communicate with them, plan things, no "I have no time" days. There has to be at least one person willing/available on every system. What if someone drops out? Who will replace them? Do you expect RL to take over when there is no-one to do it?
As you might see, It' will not be as simple as being willing to spend an hour a day to moderate TC, and that's probably one of the reasons why it will never happen.
I said it in another thread, but I would rather go with something like a 'wrench' feed. But not a wrench like in evo where people get picked by RL. You have to set up rules and people can apply to get a wrench if they conform the rules. It would not be a great system, but I think that would work alot better.
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I was thinking about making an X-Supercross for the HW Challenge. Are the bugs you listed there the only ones, or is there a thread I should check out for the all the bugs? I wanted to include one OPE thing, but I'll take it out if it messes up like you sayOriginally Posted by TeriXeri Go to original post
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Hello,Originally Posted by TeriXeri Go to original post
1. We'll add the support for players to be able to remove some bikes from their tracks.
2. We'll take it into account.
3. No, we don't have plans to add this search filter at the moment.
Cheers,
