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same 5 or 6 disslikes within rlelease like clock work
I deleted previous rant and added this
What is redlynx going to do about the people who are dissliking tracks purely for thier gain ??? i try and make quality track some with faults yes but ai try to make real tracks. People have a right to do what they want with thier vote but on the other hand they dont have a right to use the system to thier gain , and some whilst making half an hour tracks do this and destroy hours and hours of other peoples work and stop them from getting the downloads they deserve.
Shall we all just make sloppy tracks , maybe this is the way because that what is credited within tc and ones that only 30 people out of 1000 like.
I have put 1000s of hours into this game providing for this game and its gamers so i want to know what redlynx is going to do about the forever clock work of stretetic voters because its killng my tracks everytime. Yes there is faults with them and yes this is also taken into account but by no means do they deserve the clocl work disslikes within a few hours of release , sometimes the track will then go on an collect over a 100 likes without a one so this cant ever be a random matter.
I really want to know what redlynx will do about this power they have given to these gamers and what support they will give real track builder who try to provide real tracks for this community.
edit -please forgive my rant im just annoyed and frustrated
I would appreciate some adivce on this matter , maybe take a look at the track and give me some ideas where i am going wrong if i am going wrong. i Know of a few parts within it that i wish i could change but i wanted to go with a technical line and thought it was a decent one , maybe it is my building but the disslikes seem to be so organized within a pattern. If its my building then thats fine but i cant see it so i would greatly appreciate it if some people would just let me know , i can take it. i would rather know its my building then morons just voting it down then i can do something about it. Like i said there is a few things wrong with it as always , but to get the disslikes i always accumlale with its first release is just annoying and frustrating when it keeps happening track after track. If i played this in tc even with the faults i would still like it as it is still an enjoyable track. Whats not to enjoy about it lol ok i could be biast and maybe i dont see it. could be the custom cams but i thought they didnt do anything to the dl or take anything away from the ride..
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Just like a forum, you need a moderator on track central. It would greatly improve the experience and make people better builders. Not all tracks should even be on the main feed. A track should have criteria. 95% of what is uploaded is straight garbage. You need a "verified" feed. Any track that is somewhat thought out goes in it.
The like/dislike is a poor rating system. A 10 star system would be better....3 categories...decor, driveline, originality. Make the rating dynamic and a more fun part of the experience.
Also Funk, remember. Nobody is making you spend countless hours on tracks. This is something I had to tell myself a long time ago. It's a hard pill to swallow, but it's the truth. Maybe do something else creative where you pull more out of it. Take up guitar or something...haha
I love building like you, but even if your track does well...what is it among? Not taking anything away from your builds, as I like some and they are continually progressing...but in Evo you'd have a LOT of great builders always on the feed.
If I was top 4 on the feed, it was much harder to attain than being top on the ps4 at this time. Consider how many good tracks you see on the ps4 in a month...maybe 5 or so? So, even if you were higher up...it would only yield another few hundred views. In the end, does it really matter?
I understand your frustration, but be realistic with what time is volunteered to build a track and spend a ton of hours on what very few will appreciate. I know it's an addiction...I've fought my losing battles too...you start adding and can NOT stop with filling it out and dialing the driveline....perfecting that animation, running, rerunning, over and over...
It's really just a sickness in the end...haha
Last, hours don't equal good ratings. The MP I made that got a pick didn't take too long. The last contest on my "Defeated" track...I spent 4x the amount of time and it was a far superior looking track. Nobody cares but you on how many hours a track take...nobodyThis is another thing I tell myself before obsessing, not getting a pick, and having a track get crapped on because some fool can't play Trials properly.
Looking forward to running the latest build. There's a healthy wall of text to accompany yours...haha
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I agree, Vegas. This thread reminds me of you back in the day complaining about Redlynx picks. I'm glad to see you got past that phase.
I've heard very similar complaints with people on an indie game unhappy that their maps didn't get put into the community map playlist. The fact is that the end result is the only thing that matters, when you're talking about public reception. As Vegas said, the amount of time and effort put into your tracks is irrelevant, and won't impact many peoples' opinion of it. What matters is what they see before them.
And you talk about making tracks as if it's some selfless act that only others benefit from. As someone who has spent an insane amount of time in the past drawing and creating maps: It isn't selfless. You make tracks because you enjoy making tracks. Does knowing other people are playing and enjoying your tracks factor in as well? Absolutely. But it isn't the sole reason you spend the time and effort creating tracks.
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I also know exacly what you guys talking about.
Im a track builder on PC platform, and spend hours sometimes days/weeks to build a nice decorated track.
ANd then a MyTrack or Meinestrecke or MePiste gets hundreds of thumbs up
if u know those track names, then u know its 99% crap.
And i totaly agree that there should be a better rating system.
Example:
1 - 10 star : Decoration
1 - 10 star : driving line
1 - 10 star: originality
1 - 10 star: overall
The thumb down or up is like: your track is good or bad. ( we realy need another rating system.
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I agree about the rating system. I really don't like it. But, changing the system wouldn't address what Funk is complaining about. As long as anybody can vote, the rating system will be exploited.Originally Posted by Smilies2013 Go to original post
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hi guys thanx for the replies
Rather than reply separtely i will try answer in one , if i did other wise we would be signing a book deal lol dont worry you will still get a short story hahaha.
sorry about the wall of text , i understand if you dont read it
First of all thanx you for replying to my rant and not blasting me for ranting , all said and done i do love building and this was a main result of the continuing stalking voting that i seem to have become a traget for over my last 5 or so tracks. I was probably moaning like a little girl in frustration. I suppose putting hours and hours into a track and doing this atleast once a week because i have the time to at the moment is most likely giving me a sore head lol. I do build simply because i like to and yes of course this is the main reason but still one has to have a traget or a goal to achieve and the way the system provides tools to people to minipulate any success in which my goals are aimed is something that frustrates and annoys my. I cant understand why such a source of power is given to imature people such as a naturally immature child which by accident i saw on a stream the other day playing in tc. i stopped watching when i realised he was a child but this can in no way be a secure system in which can truely identify quality or fun tracks. especially within tc today where you need to be within the top few to atleast accumalte as many votes as possible.
There is way too much power within one dislike , it hold to much of a percentage and governs a place that creativity should be encouraged and effort be rewarded. I agree with vagas in most of what he said infact agree with all of what has been said in the replies. I guess this as a whole is more about one person finding a game where he/likes to build within and then try to better thier self in that avenue. But is constantly confused by the system and unable to understand if the building quality of thiers is progressing or not simply because an immature vote yields so much power with just one dislike. In a place where they want you to be creative , where they want you to give effort and time , should infact encourage you to continue , should be able to evaluate your progression and most importantly not allow random children or even adults for that matter to minipulate someones progression just because they can. I understand the meaning of not building to get reccomended thats is true but we do build to hopefully get at the top within tc , i would call it being competative , we all want to create better things then the next and being towards the top of tc tells you this or atleast should anyway. I agree after years of playing something and after years of getting use to all this i would imagine some just do build for them selfs alone , but beginners who still find the game a fairly new concept will strive to be better than the next. I want to be better then the next builder, its not trying to be big headed or trying to be a fool its just called being competative but in this tc today there is no chance what so ever in getting this out of the game. I dont want to just make tracks for my self , i want to enjoy making tracks for my self whilst other people think they are awesome too. Im not happy just being good at making tracks , not happy just settling for my own track building satisfaction. I enjoy my track beings played by all , that what thrills me. To achieve the best , to try and become the best. Does that make me a lesser person ? just because i dont want to settle for building tracks for my self. All tracks that i have built i have enjoyed making them i really have , even my first one but do i care for them now , hell not , the only ones that really do me any service still are the 2 in the recommended. The others are lost and hardly are ever seen by my self. ( by the way wasnt saying anyone suggested i was a lesser person )
I have probably waffled on way to much , i agree with what has been said in many ways and no doubt after another year might also feel the same and have left that edge of wanting to be better behind. Nothing wrong with this and its probably in the end the best way to see and play this game. because tc and the system is not open or correctly wokred within tc to have a competative edge
like i said i agree with the replies , and really do appreciate the advice and comments made. i do want people to know that im not complaing about my track being disliked if it is infact very dislikeable but more that it does my box in that i cant tell if its quality or not with the way a dislike can destroy the work. Having looked this morning at my track it has gotten more dislikes which gives me the impression this time its more down to something wrong with the track its self. To be honest i feek like i am stuck at a level and don t know where to go from here , i cant get any indication from tc and things like this rant is alittle silly but still....
In most way a agree with zxmaples vagas and smilies and again thanx for not smashing my rant , i was just somewhat annoyed , no doubt i will have my head in the editor and back to the drawing board today lol. It is very addictive , i just cant stop adding and tweaking once i start...
cheers guys
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lol. Well it is hard work at times, but I do still read them.Originally Posted by funktastic- Go to original post
I like where you are with your building, by the way.
