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    Connor's messy end

    So, someone told me there's an Abstergo file in Rogue that says Connor had a messy end. I wonder..do they mean from an Abstergo perceptive that says that Connor killed all Templars but died failing to bring peace. Or does it mean he failed the Brotherhood and got killed by Templars?
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    His blond wife took their kid(s) with her when she left and he died alone.
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    He didn't die a horrific death. The Abstergo info just implied that he had a messed up life. That is all.

    Originally Posted by Hans684 Go to original post
    His blond wife took their kid(s) with her when she left and he died alone.
    Exactly. I don't exactly see how that is terrible. Sure, I would've liked to have seen him live a happy life and die a content man because of all the things he has been through.

    EDIT- But also, this information is from Abstergo and they sometimes like to twist things, and discredit the Assassins.
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    Ok, this is what happened:

    In 1807, He receives a letter of aid from Shay’s son, requesting his aid.

    Shay’s son tells him that his sister has gone missing and his mother was murdered, and he suspects that a vengeful Assassin may have done it, for despite Connor’s order for the Assassins to leave Shay’s family alone, they were never forgiven.

    After an investigation, Connor deduces that it was not an Assassin who took Shay’s daughter, but rather an independent party. In New York City, Connor spies a suspicious looking man named Alphonso Nickelston and tails him to his meeting with a corrupt Assassin. Connor assassinates them, and learns from Nickelston that Shay’s daughter is being held hostage in a stately manor in the New Jersey countryside.

    Continuing his investigation, Connor learns that the man he seeks is Bryson Wagner, a wealthy but eccentric man who has spent many years abroad traveling the world and returned only in 1800 and that Alphonso was his loyal butler. Connor locates the manor, and with Shay’s son, travels there.

    Splitting up in their search, Connor discovers a twisted menagerie of flora and fauna and an armor that Bryson Wagner gathered on his travels. More disturbing is when Connor stumbles on a room containing the corpses of three dead boys in varying states of decay. Meanwhile, Shay’s son discovers a secret stairway that leads to a mysterious structure built into a bat-filled cave, containing Assassin equipment and writings. Shay’s son finds Shay’s daughter, only to be ambushed by Bryson Wagner.

    Bryson Wagner, dressed in a bat-like masquerade costume that belonged to his father and wielding a Chinese spear picked up on his travels, attacks Shay’s son and cuts off his hands. Bryson Wagner tells Shay’s son that when he was eight, Shay killed his parents in front of him just because they had given aid to Assassins he was pursuing and orphaned Bryson. Consumed by a desire for vengeance against the Templars, he traveled the world learning the ways of the Assassin from branches around the globe. In time, he learned of the Shroud of Eden, and sought to acquire it in hopes of bringing his dead parents back to life. However, Shay took care of the Shroud of Eden and sent it to places beyond Bryson’s reach, cementing his desire for vengeance against Shay.

    However, when Bryson Wagner returned, he discovered that Shay had already been killed by Connor. With his chance for personal revenge gone, he decided to take revenge on Shay’s family by killing his family and indoctrinating his daughter into his personal servant and assistant in his war against the Templars as the ultimate “Assassin.” He reveals that he has already tried to turn three young boys into his aids, but they proved unworthy in training, and he deposed of them which is why he is trying Shay’s daughter, an older female, for a change.

    Bryson Wagner kills Shay’s son by disemboweling him with the spear before ramming it through his chest, and drags Shay’s daughter back into the manor. He takes her into his menagerie, where he tells her about the power of bats as a symbol due to superstition. He puts her in front of a cage of vampire bats that he sent home from Central America, and asks if she wants to feed them, telling her it is join or die. He is about to rape her, saying that too much of her blood is dirty cause its Shays but he will put some of him in her to purify her. He declares that he is vengeance, he is the night, he is... However, before he can begin his nefarious deed, he is assassinated by Connor stealthily from behind who drags Bryson towards him with his rope dart before stabbing him with the hidden blade, who comments that Bryson should not leave his weapons out in the open for anyone to take.

    The next day Shay’s daughter bids him farewell, and shows some romantic interest in him. Coincidentally, she is a blonde, but Connor tells her that it is not to be for he has already found another. She nods in acceptance, saying that she'll just have to find a man of her own then although she cannot imagine finding one nobler than Connor or her father, and they ride off in their separate ways. Secretly, she did Connor in the night while he was sleeping and is now bearing his bastard child. In the woods, Connor finds a place to sit and holding a feather, reflects on everything from the day his mother died to the day he rescued the daughter of an enemy from a delusional madman. Later, Abstergo takes this scene and heavily manipulates it, distorting it beyond any accuracy.

    This was confirmed to me by Corey May himself.
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    Originally Posted by GunnerGalatico Go to original post
    Exactly. I don't exactly see how that is terrible. Sure, I would've liked to have seen him live a happy and die a content man because of all the things he has been through.
    Can you blame her? Not everyone is going to take it lightly that their husband kills for a living.

    But also, this information is from Abstergo and they sometimes like to twist things, and discredit the Assassins.
    Nothing to benefit from it.
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    Originally Posted by Hans684 Go to original post
    Can you blame her? Not everyone is going to take it lightly that their husband kills for a living.
    No, I certainly wouldn't blame her at all. In AC3, Connor said so himself in one of the Homestead missions that he wouldn't be a good husband because he wouldn't have time to devote to a wife. That's probably what happened. Connor must have been too busy with his "work" and recruiting new Assassins that he did not spend enough time with his family. So his wife was probably like: "It's either me or the Brotherhood". So she packed off and left.
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    After his wife left him Connor remarried with a 20 year old smokin' hot Asian lady.


    or maybe Patience Gibbs.
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    Originally Posted by ze_topazio Go to original post
    After his wife left him Connor remarried with a 20 year old smokin' hot Asian lady.


    or maybe Patience Gibbs.
    Oh god, no! NO! PLEASE NO! ANYBODY BUT HER! Even Dobby OTL
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    Looking at the title of this thread, i expected this thread to go in an entirely different direction.

    On topic, i'm not gonna bother speculating because Ubi changes their mind a lot.
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    Originally Posted by Defalt221 Go to original post
    So, someone told me there's an Abstergo file in Rogue that says Connor had a messy end. I wonder..do they mean from an Abstergo perceptive that says that Connor killed all Templars but died failing to bring peace. Or does it mean he failed the Brotherhood and got killed by Templars?
    As Hans said, Connor's blonde wife took their kid(s) and left him. Connor died alone, contemplating about what went wrong in his life.

    It's however you see it, which you didn't and I wouldn't take it from an Abstergo perspective. A novel/short film or it's irrelevant, IMO.
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