Greetings mappers! Lillestoel here, and I just had a long discussion with LegacyZ3RO on Twitter about Far Cry 4 and the fact that we wont be able to play custom maps in PVP at launch. The main issue is whether or not Ubisoft have made the right decision to not include this feature, and if they have gone about it the right way in not informing us about their decision and not responding the the fans on the forums. We both wanted to see what the rest of the community thinks of this, so I wanted to make a thread so we can all come to a conclusion, even if that involves agreeing to disagree :)
But please keep it civilized!
(Also, please read the responses before you disagree with the opposing stance. In case they have a different point of view or something to add :D)
We now know that Ubisoft decided not to let us create custom maps for the PVP modes in Far Cry 4. I'm sure everyone here, including me and LegacyZ3RO thinks this sucks, because we have had a lot of fun being creative and making our own maps in previous Far Cry games. The map editor is definitely a feature that makes the series stand out, and it has given us a tool for infinite longevity and fun in the game, even though our community has not grown very big compared to the following some other games have.
My opinion is this:
Ubisoft may have made a few mistakes this year, but I don't think this was one of them. Far Cry 3 was played by over 6 million players, and the vast majority of them only cared for the singleplayer. We all know Far Cry 3's PVP mode wasn't a big success, and so does Ubisoft, so obviously some changes had to be made for Far Cry 4 (what does anyone have to lose from that, right?). So they decided to not let us create multiplayer maps in the editor, and even though I think that sucks, I don't think we have the right to call them out for doing something wrong. It's their game, and they have to do what they think is right. I'm certainly very disappointed, and I want them to reconsider and bring back the ability to make PVP maps.
And in my eyes, there are two ways for me as a customer to do this.
ONE. Choose not to buy the game. This way I will be a part of the statistic that indicates a change in sales after they release Far Cry 4.
TWO. Make videos where I express my thoughts on the game and decisions like these, and let the developers know what I think of the game, and what I think could be done differently or what they have done right.
Another question here is this. Are they wrong not to inform us that they removed the ability to make PVP maps in Far Cry 4?
I don't think so. Again, this is a big company with millions of customers, and everyone have their individual opinions of the game. I don't think it's right of us to demand them to answer to our questions, where "us" are just one tiny minority of the Far Cry fanbase.
They have their own advertising campaign and plan for the game, and it would be pretty pointless if they were gonna spoil the whole game as soon as it's revealed buy answering every question about it and pointing out every feature it will support and not.
What WOULD be wrong is if they told us we could make PVP maps before launch, and then sell a game that didn't allow us to do this! That would have been false advertising, and that would definitely be to do wrong against their consumers.
...But this is not the case.
I just don't think it's wrong of them to keep us in the dark even though we may want to be informed, as long as they don't spread misinformation.
If you decide to pre-order a game based on how you interpret Ubisoft's silence, I think that mistake is on you as an individual person.
What do you guys think?
Personally I have been accused of defending Ubisoft just because they were kind enough to fly me out to Montreal to try the game. If you think this makes me biased, then that's fine, you all have the right to form your own opinions, but let me just say this. The three of us were picked because we were vocal, honest and constructive. If you go back and see my old videos, you can see that I have always given both negative and positive feedback to Ubisoft without attacking them, and this will continue. Just because I decide to defend them in this one debate doesn't ruin my credibility. At least not in my eyes.
I would definitely appreciate it if we were acknowledged more often on the forums, but I don't think we have the right to be. If we don't like it, it's honestly our problem, and I fear a lot of people think the only way to fight for a return of PVP custom maps is to go on a witch hunt against Ubisoft, but this will NEVER help! If they see us *****ing, bashing and moaning they will just take us for what we are. Immature angry internet fiends :)
So let's not do that okey? Be vocal and constructive!! =D


