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Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
Greetings all!,
Well alot of posts keep cropping up about this particular sticking point in alot of peoples minds, so here is your very own stickied topic on the subject you can discuss and vent your feelings about it!
(get it out of your system please! http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image...s/icon_lol.gif )
Couple of rules so that i dont have to come in:
-Keep the ideas rolling in! Stuff like track sorting/rating tracks is a good idea? for example
-Opinions are welcome but throw in a negative with something constructive please
-Suggestions that can help existing sites like the communites very own TrialsHD.net run by Gamescrub
-Track stealing is also a sore but valid subject thats worth discussing here also if you like but keep it nice, someone might really love a track you did and be inspired to do something similar so it becomes a homage to that track creator and not theft!
enjoy!
Love from your Trials Moderator
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
YES! - okay here it goes
- Don't have to be friends with someone to get tracks
- Replays of top times with date and GT
- Better Track organization - so we don't have to use initials to keep all the tracks in order
- Rate tracks
- total users who have downloaded each track
- top rated tracks and top downloaded tracks sections
- Featured Tracks - maybe TOTD?
- scores/times/faults (custom or otherwise) posted to a website - ( i.e. - leaderboards from our computers too)
- permissions - settings for tracks to be set by user to allow for more than one creator
- a way to share tracks with a specific person(s) without uploading to a centralized area - good for having friends test an unfinished track
- more items per track > sharing more tracks
That's it for now - i'm sure i'll think of more though http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image..._e_biggrin.gif
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
hmm...
- Custom user content tournaments (at least 3 or 4 tracks total)
- In game top downloaded/rated custom tracks (nice idea loch)
- DLC of customs (if no leaderboards or public custom downloads - devs should choose tracks)
- Level Editor: AN OBJECT COUNTER
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
What Murdoc said. Get em Loch.
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
here's a few more ideas
- Search Function - search by: track name, Gamertag, difficulty, date, platinum time, leaderboard size & rating
- Updates - notify when new versions of tracks become available and disable old versions from posting to the leaderboards - each update requires a leaderboard swipe obviously
- Tournaments - multi track and single track tournaments - multi track like in the game (multiple track creators optional) and single track like the weekend challenges at trialshd.net -
i'll keep thinking - there's more good ideas to be had http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image..._e_biggrin.gif
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
^^and a section for dlc tracks and non-dlc tracks
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
One more idea:
- View a custom tracks leaderboards before downloading it to see who's playing the track (overall list and friends list) and what their times are. Also view replays from this screen.
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Before I forget....
Try to increase track limit. If there must be a limit, let it be based on total upload size ie
60kb allowed, that way if I have 10 tracks @ 6kb each I can share an extra 3 tracks.
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
I've got a good one-
- a point system similar to but separate from global points - to rank custom track players
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
Seperate sections on the (still hypothetical) server for skill games/racing and for tracks that can be raced multiplayer. (still hypothetical)
Because the two greatest things to improve Trials would be a user track server and realtime true multiplayer live racing on tracks.
You have those you have an unbeatable game.
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
global leaderboard glitches have been fixed, maybe the custom track glitches should be the next move?
pretty much every idea i could want has already been said here. collect all those posts and you get the best package of trials anyone could ever want. i could only think of 1 more that hasn't been said but it's obvious.
-increase the custom track limit http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image...con_e_wink.gif
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
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Originally Posted by heetsauce
global leaderboard glitches have been fixed, maybe the custom track glitches should be the next move?
pretty much every idea i could want has already been said here. collect all those posts and you get the best package of trials anyone could ever want. i could only think of 1 more that hasn't been said but it's obvious.
-increase the custom track limit
http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image...con_e_wink.gif
what i'd like to see is no need to keep custom tracks stored locally - they're always stored online so when you want to play a level it quickly downloads and loads up - replays and leaderboards are stored online too , just like "normal" tracks - this could effectively make the amount of tracks one could store endless
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
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Originally Posted by MurdocLoch
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Originally Posted by heetsauce
global leaderboard glitches have been fixed, maybe the custom track glitches should be the next move?
pretty much every idea i could want has already been said here. collect all those posts and you get the best package of trials anyone could ever want. i could only think of 1 more that hasn't been said but it's obvious.
-increase the custom track limit
http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image...con_e_wink.gif
what i'd like to see is no need to keep custom tracks stored locally - they're always stored online so when you want to play a level it quickly downloads and loads up - replays and leaderboards are stored online too , just like "normal" tracks - this could effectively make the amount of tracks one could store endless
Well......isn't the problem server space?
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
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Originally Posted by Jarr3tt88
Well......isn't the problem server space?
well, as i understand it the tracks and leaderboards are currently hosted on microsofts severs and yes space is limited - but in order to achieve what we're talking about in this thread, RedLynx would need to operate their own severs - which was not possible before the success of Trials HD - obviously they have the means to provide ample sever support for leaderboards and custom tracks in the near future
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
so I'm not remembering when or if we ever got a real answer to this question: CAN Trials HD be patched to incorporate custom track leaderboards? - i looked around through some old threads and came up empty - can anybody shed some light?
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haven't heard a thing about a fix.. time will tell i guess
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
i thought of something:
- See all the tracks someone has played with their time and rank all in one place - let's say you wanted to see all the tracks lestropie has played - there should be a way to see what tracks he's playing - that way you don't have to go into each track to see who's competing - or let's say you want to see what tracks your friends are playing - instead of asking them you can just look
also this could play into global scoring for customs - maybe something like average rank? - the game could average all your rankings - but it'd have to be off set somehow cause if you just played one track and got first your average would be number one - any thoughts?
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
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Originally Posted by MurdocLoch
so I'm not remembering when or if we ever got a real answer to this question: CAN Trials HD be patched to incorporate custom track leaderboards? - i looked around through some old threads and came up empty - can anybody shed some light?
according to the devs it's not possible for Trials HD. soemthing to do with the top 5000 getting replays used up all their available allowed memory. they are allowed less for arcade games. but that they will definitely be working on it for future titles. that's a bit hazy but i know for 100% certain they said it can't be done for Trials HD http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image...s/icon_cry.gif
i WISH i could give you a link to it but i can't because i can't find it myself http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image.../icon_evil.gif . you'll either just have to trust me on this one or maybe ask the question by creating a thread in General Discussion and i bet one of the devs will help you out.
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
so been awhile and lots of activity, and no word on editor glitch... im still voting for the game in that xbox thing whenever im on it, but it doesnt feel right with such a broken piece of the game now exposed, please fix redlynx.
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
good to see this topic of discussion pushed into the background once again... just remember kids, the glitchers walk amongst us.. GOT YO SHHHHH
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Re: Many ideas from a player and a creator - please consider
- Don't have to be friend to share tracks. Its frustrating to have to use the computer to find people to share with!
- Replays of top times for the custom tracks. (Very limited replays would be fine, I would only need to see the top 20-50, so nowhere near the current 4999 would be needed, which I assume would save valuable space)
- Better Track organization - Organize the tracks by a LOCKED user name and creator. No one needs to download my track and rename it! Its my name and I liked it! Also, I don't have enough room to make a name for the level and give myself credit. That should be two different slots. One for creator, and one for the name of the track.
- Rate the tracks. If you find a way to get around the friends thing a make a better system for sharing custom tracks, a rating system for the the tracks would be great. Even if that system was online for instance, I wouldn't mind looking through the tracks Ive played and posting a comment and/or rating the track. I would like to see the rating system have more than one dimension also, such as 'EYE APPEAL, FLOW, DOES THE USER CREATED TIMES/SKILL REQ. MATCH THE LEVELS ACTUAL DIFFICULTY?'. Maybe you could find a way to post the leader-boards on your site as well, for all tracks, custom and not. You could have something that shows how many times it has been dl'ed and the creation date, creator, etc.
I know it sounds like I'm saying you need to create an additional website to do all this, but I think it wouldn't be all that difficult, as long as it wasn't taken too far.
Track sharing is quite a pain in the butt! If all the hassle of needing to be friends first was done away with, more tracks could be shared with a much wider audience. I have to request the friend, have room on my list in the first place. If they accept, or even exist anymore, then I can download the tracks and show him mine. It would be great if you did a whole remake of the track sharing setup. Its frustrating, for me and my girlfriend (who needs her computer for school work) that I need to be on the computer and my xbox to find custom tracks or to have mine actually be played by more than my 5 friends that play trials. Maybe you could allow tracks to be uploaded to a central database anyone can access.
We definitely need more than just the name of the track, especially because this can be changed and then spread around without the creator getting his credit, or worse yet, someone else taking false credit! If there was some kind of organized system to share tracks and to have people rate them, it would give me much more incentive to go all out and make some crazy tracks with a lot of detail and new ideas!
I would love a track of the day feature, where a highly rated track is made available for dl, and have a direct way to access that track, so it wouldn't be a pain to get it.
I have also read some posts about getting some avatar gear for achievements. This would be so great! I would bust my butt to get any achievement I didn't have, and you could make some harder ones to get the really good stuff! It would actually give me some interest in my avatar! LoL I don't really care for avatar gear or items, but if you made some cool TRIALS stuff, I would def. get it and slap it on there ASAP!
I fell in love with this game from day one, and have not stopped playing it since the day I downloaded it. I continue to strive to beat my old records and have a lot of fun creating my own crazy tracks. I'm not saying the game is bad in ANY way, but I am suggesting some things that I think would make it much more fun. I could ramble on all day with ideas for this game, and the level creator/share system, so I'm gonna shut up now. Unless you're hiring.... LoL but seriously... if you are... call me!
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
I am also EXTREMELY sick and tired of never being able to place highly on the leaderboards, bc the top 50 spots are taken by glitchers! Ok, you hit the ground really hard and bounced back up a little higher than normal... thats fine! I dont mind that, we can all do that randomly or purposely. Its the glitchers, especially on Down the Hill, that all have 204-206 because they hit that are between the crates at the bottom or the stuck themselves behind a sign on the wall. Its a million to one shot that anyone will be able to do that again, and even if they could, what fun is that? I want to compete for a good score, but on a fair scoreboard! Please follow through with the 'system you put in place' to stop these people from dominating the leaderboards! Also, glitches within replays are very annoying! I have no idea how the top players of FLUGTAG or a few other games did as well as they did, bc the replay has them all crashing or not completing their runs!
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
editor glitch fixed, thank you redlynx. this is huge for alot of us so it is much appreciated. keep up the good work http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image.../icon_cool.gif
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
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Originally Posted by xDeeTeRx
I am also EXTREMELY sick and tired of never being able to place highly on the leaderboards, bc the top 50 spots are taken by glitchers! Ok, you hit the ground really hard and bounced back up a little higher than normal... thats fine! I dont mind that, we can all do that randomly or purposely. Its the glitchers, especially on Down the Hill, that all have 204-206 because they hit that are between the crates at the bottom or the stuck themselves behind a sign on the wall. Its a million to one shot that anyone will be able to do that again, and even if they could, what fun is that? I want to compete for a good score, but on a fair scoreboard!
Contrary to your statement, huge majority of the tracks do not have any glitchers on top of their leaderboards. I agree that Down the Stairs requires lots of luck, if you want to have a perfect score. However it's entirely possible to have a perfect score without exploiting a glitch. If you check out other physics damage based games, such as Pain (on PS3) or Stair Dismount (on PC) you notice that all of the best scores in this genre of games require some kind of lucky exploit. When you have a million of players competing against each other, someone always gets lucky. And that's fine for us, as long as you do not cheat in any way.
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Originally Posted by xDeeTeRx
Please follow through with the 'system you put in place' to stop these people from dominating the leaderboards!
We have removed all cheated scores from the leaderboards, and we will continue to do so in the future as well. However we do not consider Down the Stairs physics glitch a cheat.
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Originally Posted by xDeeTeRx
Also, glitches within replays are very annoying! I have no idea how the top players of FLUGTAG or a few other games did as well as they did, bc the replay has them all crashing or not completing their runs!
Flugtag and a few other tracks (Logsplosive, Classic) used to have huge amount of completely broken replays. We fixed this issue in a patch, but many of the replays in the leaderboard are older than the patch. New replays work much better. Unfortunately Flugtag is not that popular skill game. Many players play it only a few times to reach a good score, and never play it again. We do not want to delete anyone's score just because it has a glitched replay, unless we have evidence that the player has cheated.
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
I think that the"u dont have 2 be someones friend 2 play their tracks"is a good idea but i wouldnt know if 2 download a track or not cuz i woulndnt have any idea what it looks like.It would be cool to have like a weekly most popular map thing but have a different track each week so that just one track isnt up for like 3 weeks.Just sayin.
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
be good to see if numbered checkpoints can be made to enable you to place a checkpoint behind a previous one. i.e even if you have been past a checkpoint (say number 5) it wont activate until you have passed the previous numbered checkpoint (4) first and then wen you pass 5 again it will activate, this will allow you to create a lot more backwards roots without having to come forward miles before you get to a checkpoint http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image...on_e_smile.gif
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
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Originally Posted by smeghead89
be good to see if numbered checkpoints can be made to enable you to place a checkpoint behind a previous one. i.e even if you have been past a checkpoint (say number 5) it wont activate until you have passed the previous numbered checkpoint (4) first and then wen you pass 5 again it will activate, this will allow you to create a lot more backwards roots without having to come forward miles before you get to a checkpoint
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Thats not a bad idea but(not to be an a$$)how does that fit into this discussion.Seriously not tryin 2 be an a$$.
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
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Originally Posted by Trialsaddict
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Originally Posted by smeghead89
be good to see if numbered checkpoints can be made to enable you to place a checkpoint behind a previous one. i.e even if you have been past a checkpoint (say number 5) it wont activate until you have passed the previous numbered checkpoint (4) first and then wen you pass 5 again it will activate, this will allow you to create a lot more backwards roots without having to come forward miles before you get to a checkpoint
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Thats not a bad idea but(not to be an a$$)how does that fit into this discussion.Seriously not tryin 2 be an a$$.
yeah my bad http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image...n_rolleyes.gif I guess thats my problem not paying attention and reading things properly before opening my big mouth http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image...s/icon_lol.gif I thought this was for suggestions about any new ideas for upgrades or a new big pack for instence, dont worry you not being an *** - sounds like its me being an *** http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image...s/icon_lol.gif
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Dont get me wrong,really any message will fit anywhere in these forums.
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
i have something else that doesn't rly fit into this discussion but im gonna say it anyway. I'd like to see it possible to upload your own music sound tracks to your custom tracks or your own sound effects etc. be so cool if you could make a film tribute track and could use the theme tune from the film or something http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image...on_e_smile.gif or even a particular line from the film would be awsome http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image..._e_biggrin.gif
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MULTIPLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i WANTZZ mULTIPlaYER!!! http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image...on_exclaim.gif
Please http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image..._e_biggrin.gif , and listen to all of Murdocs ideas, but don't forget about theMUltiPLAyER!!! :o
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
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Originally Posted by MurdocLoch
I've got a good one-
- a point system similar to but separate from global points - to rank custom track players
I cant see how this one would work. Some guys could get together, create a very very easy track and just platinum every one of them without playing honestly. And it wouldnt be fair to some guys because to stay ahead, theyd have to dl pretty much everyone's customs, over a million players on trials hd it would be impossible to get tracks off every one of them (if they do make it). The leaderboard would feel "untracked" if you know what i mean. However i do agree with every one of your other points on improving the editor.
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
Hi guys. I'm a newbie to Trials HD and the forum itself. Absolutely love the game. It was worth every cent and more.
The only thing that irritates me is the fact that you have to friend people in order to download/ share tracks. A central server with all uploaded tracks would work wonders making user created content available to the masses. I know it has been mentioned as I have read everything in this thread but is is the only thing I can really suggest at the moment.
I only bought Trials HD about a week ago, and joined this forum only yesterday, so I am looking out for creators willing to friend me who want to share some tracks. I'm half way through creating my first and nowhere near as skilled as a lot of you are. I'd be happy to try any track made available to me though.
Cheers.
GT: riffwarz
PSN: D3me3ntia
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
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Originally Posted by clangod
I only bought Trials HD about a week ago, and joined this forum only yesterday, so I am looking out for creators willing to friend me who want to share some tracks. I'm half way through creating my first and nowhere near as skilled as a lot of you are. I'd be happy to try any track made available to me though.
Welcome! Just to let you know - if you're looking for other's tracks, usually you will have to send a friend request to the creator. Some creators send out proactive requests to share their tracks, but most wait for messages or requests to arrive since they get a number of friend requests already.
Good luck! http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image...on_e_smile.gif
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
i needed to find some peeps on xbox that will share some tracks. which thread should i go to? Gt bigjimIam
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Originally Posted by BigjimIam
i needed to find some peeps on xbox that will share some tracks. which thread should i go to? Gt bigjimIam
user created tracks my gt is zoidberg747 if youre looking for some fairly challenging tracks http://forum.redlynx.com/forum/image...on_mrgreen.gif
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
-Online Multiplayer racing, The oponent could be a ghost like on T2SE Time Comparison
-Bigger File Share. Around 10 slots.
-Delete all button in editor and delete all squares button
-Just like Murdoc said shareing tracks without friend request
-T2SE Track Pack
-More editor Obstacles, maybe one that flips the bike
-object counter higher object limit in editor
-Fix Ajuvix's Rank Glitch
-Custom track leadboards
-xbox live competitions
-Custom Track of the day
-Multiplayer Tournaments
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Re: Track sharing and global leaderboards discussion -Hot Topic!
The problem with multiplayer is that we can no longer get the full experience out of Trials HD with only a silver membership.
Custom tracks of the week should be the only tracks on the custom leaderboards. There should be a point system to keep track of a players' rank based on their progression on each custom track. Each custom track on the leaderboard would be required for download for the player to be on the leaderboard. Once a new track of the week is added, one is knocked off, its score deducted from the total and replaced by the new track's score.