I'm trying to learn. I can't afford anything better than MS Movie Maker, so I'm trying hard with what I've got.
I'd appreciate some pointers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkK_Ns3EASE
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I'm trying to learn. I can't afford anything better than MS Movie Maker, so I'm trying hard with what I've got.
I'd appreciate some pointers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkK_Ns3EASE
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http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gifStart saving.....your doing a top job with that low end system , with a system like Vagas or Premier the only limiting factor is your imagination............................
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Hi Lazarus and welcome to the movie making community.
I can give you a few pointers, but only if the movie is not an entry for the competition that Doolittle has mentioned.
Will you be entering this? If not, I'll give you a few suggestions. Maybe you will still enter another movie as there is plenty of time to make one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif
I don't think this movie would stand a chance in any competition so, no I won't be submitting this one. I'm not sure I can even compete using MS movie maker...It doesn't appear to have a lot of tools.
So, dig in, man! What am I lacking...what do I need?
I tried downloading the Vegas demo and it won't run because it says "The Microsoft .NET runtime could not be initialized."Quote:
Originally posted by jafa1967:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gifStart saving.....your doing a top job with that low end system , with a system like Vagas or Premier the only limiting factor is your imagination............................
The detail section says "Failed to initialize the common language runtime engine. Please install the .NET Framework (download is available from Windows Update).Ive tried to install it, delete it, update it, repair it, and it simply won't let me mess with the current version. The end result is the program won't open.
OK, then. Well, first let me say you have obviously tried really hard to get as many cool ideas into your movie. You've been watching a lot of tricks I see, and putting your own spin on them. The running men getting blown away was an original! I've never seen that before.
You have great ideas, and I don't think you really need Vegas yet to make that big jump in quality. There is a lot you can do in WMM if you get the raw material improved. Are you using the Vista version of WMM? If so then you really have a lot more tools available than I can remember when I first used WMM in XP.
Work on the basics first, Lazarus. Once you get a grip of these then move onto Vegas later when you can afford it. Vegas has a very steep learning curve, I should warn you. If the expense is a worry, then I would recommend you try more movies in WMM first to get a feel for the time that is involved in making a good movie. If you are up for it, then please do go for it! I remember (painfully) my own very first movie made in WMM, very rough, but sometimes you just get a taste of something and you know you want to really develop even though it will absorb huge amounts of personal time!
Specifics then. First, the most basic rule of movies that is so often broken, and even by some old hands, is directional continuity. GL2 did a good summary of this here:
http://www.meyeuniverse.com/movboard...opic.php?t=706
Next. Go easy on the fade to black cuts. Wrong cuts are one of the biggest blunders movie makers do. 99% of cuts should be straight cuts. Only use FTB for a specific reason (eg end of scene). Many movie makers really abuse the dissolve cut. You're not guilty here, but actually you should have used a few dissolves. Dissolves should be used to indicate passage of time. Bad editors use dissolves to cover up bad filming – to quote Mascelli ˜if you can't solve it, dissolve it'. Read this other post by GL2:
http://www.meyeuniverse.com/movboard...opic.php?t=436
Another rule of thumb is the ˜14 shots per minute for action'. Some of your shots were way too long, e.g. the shot of the carrier deck. Action movies need lots of cuts! The more the better. Watch a music video and count how many cuts there are in 1 minute! You can ease off on the calmer and more artistic shots.
Rule of thirds – Google that. A lot of your camera angles needed to be better composed.
Immersion Killers – there was at least one really bad mouse pan, and a few others. Check this thread for things to avoid:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5?r=5231093555
(Actually, that old thread could do with a bump, hint, hint)
Lazarus, there are so many things you can do to improve your raw captures that will greatly enhance your movies even within WMM. Capture footage at as high a res as possible and use VirtualDub to crop this at more creative compositional views. Use more moving cameras. Static cameras can look to, well, static! Use all the locks available inIL2 to help. Use mouseemu to get better pans. Of course, use more ˜planecams' as you did, and these were some of the most exciting shots in your movie!
You need to add some filters to your final movie. Best done in VirtualDub. As a minimum play with Saturation, then Brightness/Contrast. Do a search in this forum on ˜filters'.
Finally, get some sound effects in! Adding soundeffects in WMM will be really hard. You have 2 options here – get Vegas and add samples in the very flexible sound functions (search for Falcon's Tutorials), or capture the in game sounds and use them (these sounds can be enhanced but it requires a powerful PC and a few other tools, pm me if you need more details)
OK....
I tried to adjust all the points you made. Despite that, please don't hesitate to give insite on this version. The only thing I didn't do was put it into virtual dub.....I just don't know what I'm doing in there yet.
Changes:
Increased frames per minute
Took out mouse panning
Reduced carrier deck sequence
Removed the "in-pit" landing and replaced with fly by
Added spot sound effects
Here you go!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkK_Ns3EASE
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Some improvements there, yep.
Now that you've had a go and can better understand the processes, you're best place to learn now is to watch some of the best movies again. Watch them all and ask yourself just what is different in the directing and what looks good, and try and figure out how it was done.
Then get yourself a good idea for your own movie and give it another go.
Good luck!