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[edit] anyhow, I already gave my reasons for starting this topic. Given the nasty tone it's taken, I ask the mods to lock it.
https://i.imgur.com/bpOEFaH.jpg
[edit] anyhow, I already gave my reasons for starting this topic. Given the nasty tone it's taken, I ask the mods to lock it.
A good player with the correct builds could "lead" three SHD 20 players with skill builds to complete Roosevelt and Capitol. For DUA it would be painful as the "lead" would need to solo the backpack hoping the other three don't die.
2 good players could not do the same with six SHD 20 players in Dark Hours. Iron Horse is even harder than Dark Hours.
Yes...because the raids had an entirely different team of developers custom create challenges tailored specifically to suit 8 players.
Now consider carefully if that same team spent a proportionate amount of time custom creating similar levels of challenges tailored specifically for a 4 man team?
Are you going to tell me it's not possible?
The problem has ALWAYS been one of people making the false assumption that I'm asking for easier access, or a lesser challenge.
Granted, the content that currently exist would make creating that challenge more difficult. This is why I used soloing Legendary as a baseline, and not a 4 man run of it. Or why I look to the potential of Skyscraper to create new environments and possibilities.
I'm really with @Sircowdog1 on this one, no matter my own opinion on the case. He tries to argue with logic and all he gets in response are insults - well most of it.
This is sad in its own right, but also an argument by itself why many players do not want to Raid with strangers but with friends instead. Most clans are dead, most of the friends stopped playing and thus there is no reason to lock anything forever behind any Content those people cannot play.
And where exactly is the difficulty there? It's neither new nor innovative and by no means difficult.
If the difficulty is getting eight people together then the argument is invalid for reasons stated above several times.
Also, it totally misses the point we are discussing here (as well as there being more dimensions to difficulty than some switch-clicker puzzles). So please go practice your chess skills some more.
Did you iven complete any raid ???because you write nonsense
Rather, I dare to doubt, because most of the people here who have a different opinion than Sircowdog1, complete Raids
But from what I know this topic will be closed soon, like all cry topics on EB for 1.5 years
- As you stated yourself many times, the raids are not the hardest content in the game, therefore it is not a problem to waltz in and do a speed run and get your EB.
- For those that already got their EB, it would be a slap in the face to toss it out there in non-raid content. It would be the same as the BS of giving a pre-order player an exclusive skin for pre-ordering a game, then a month after release making that skin available as a micro transaction in the store because players whined they didn’t want to pre-order but wanted the skin. If something in a game is exclusive, then either get it through the means intended or move on. (Another unrelated game did this with a preorder exclusive, hence why it makes a great example here as well.)
- The EB is not the most powerful weapon in the game. No weapon is. Depending on how you make your build(s), any weapon can be used to affect, therefore a player not having EB does NOT take away from their gameplay unless, as witnessed with this thread, they mentally can’t handle it. Not everyone needs every weapon in the game, but EVERYONE does have equal and good access to every weapon in the game.
Out of everyone who posted in this thread, I am the most casual amongst them due to my career and small time to play, and I am admittedly not a good player at all. Yet if I can manage to make a couple of friends and jump in and grab the EB, Big Horn, Regulus and Ravenous, then every single person in the game can do the same and there is no excuse for even trying to imply that you can’t. You can ... you just choose not to in order to be lazy.
As for what is hard content in this game ... the hardest content in this game is merely the content the player does not have the willpower or motivation to do. Depending on how you play, pretty much everything in this game is easy. The main problem here is some folks are so against grouping they put themselves into a self made roadblock from content. That part makes me chuckle, though, because the folks who say they refuse to interact with others and be social in a social based game come here to the forums and interact with even MORE people to boast about their asocial aspects. Interesting.
No dude - TRUTH hurts
Because how can you talk about content without even playing it or even trying to start?
That's why those who played Raids know how much effort it takes to finish it and that's why raids are most difficult end game content in division 2
Devs seys STOTG on stream many times "raids are end game content now"
Therefore, complete them first and then write