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XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 02:28 PM
Wow - looks cool ...

The most interesting thing seems to be the armement:
i dont know which 109 version is used but probably some later G (note the MG131 bubbles on the engine hood). SO I think both BFs have MK108 nose cannons. Regarding the three wing mounted MK108 (short gun barrels) we would get:

4xMG131 13mm + 5xMK108 30mm !!! ;-)

PLZ tell me but what the hell do you need such an amement for??? Even the hevy destoyers like the BF110G or Ju88 never had more than 4xMK108 of forward attack armement. This 109Z is gonna be killer!

And as it's not too big i think it will still be quite agile....

XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 02:28 PM
Wow - looks cool ...

The most interesting thing seems to be the armement:
i dont know which 109 version is used but probably some later G (note the MG131 bubbles on the engine hood). SO I think both BFs have MK108 nose cannons. Regarding the three wing mounted MK108 (short gun barrels) we would get:

4xMG131 13mm + 5xMK108 30mm !!! ;-)

PLZ tell me but what the hell do you need such an amement for??? Even the hevy destoyers like the BF110G or Ju88 never had more than 4xMK108 of forward attack armement. This 109Z is gonna be killer!

And as it's not too big i think it will still be quite agile....

XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 02:40 PM
I doubt that the Bf109Z used the nose-mounted MK108s. I'd rather say, the had the MG151/20 in the nose.

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XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 02:40 PM
I expect it's roll rate will be appalling. Nice big target, poor roll rate, heavy due to masses of guns. I look forward to it, it'll make a great target. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I assume you'll need 5xMk108 because the germans had NS37 & NS45 envy. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 02:45 PM
Bnej_03 wrote:
- I expect it's roll rate will be appalling. Nice big
- target, poor roll rate, heavy due to masses of guns.
- I look forward to it, it'll make a great target. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



LoL..It'll be just like the F-82...but much worse. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 02:59 PM
Bremspropeller wrote:
- I doubt that the Bf109Z used the nose-mounted
- MK108s. I'd rather say, the had the MG151/20 in the
- nose.

Well I think the MG151 would be worthless. How should they be assigned to the triggers? The 4xMG131 are strong enough, the additional MG151 repulse would only make fireing more unstable. And it would be too high weight of fire for a primary weapon.
The MG151 with the MKs ... this would be a bad joke - there would be no use for them. Bf109G6 with MK gunpods is crap too unless you would have MK nose cannon installed.

XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 05:14 PM
Sana_HvJ wrote:
- Bremspropeller wrote:
-- I doubt that the Bf109Z used the nose-mounted
-- MK108s. I'd rather say, the had the MG151/20 in the
-- nose.
-
- Well I think the MG151 would be worthless. How
- should they be assigned to the triggers? The 4xMG131
- are strong enough, the additional MG151 repulse
- would only make fireing more unstable. And it would
- be too high weight of fire for a primary weapon.
- The MG151 with the MKs ... this would be a bad joke
- - there would be no use for them. Bf109G6 with MK
- gunpods is crap too unless you would have MK nose
- cannon installed.
-
-

It was never said it will be flyable, I swear you guys jump to conclusions so freakin fast. Right now its a external model and texture by Hartmann (spelling!?). Just like the B17 won't be flyable and the Hawk75 won't be flyable (unless that Tero found the time to do a pit for it).



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