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XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 06:16 PM
Hey there. I'm new to Flight Sims. Got a new joystick and had to get a game. Seems pretty good except my engine keeps quiting when playing on easy. I don't have any damage or anythng that i can see. Is there a way to prevent this or restart the engine? Thanks.

XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 06:16 PM
Hey there. I'm new to Flight Sims. Got a new joystick and had to get a game. Seems pretty good except my engine keeps quiting when playing on easy. I don't have any damage or anythng that i can see. Is there a way to prevent this or restart the engine? Thanks.

XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 06:18 PM
What plane?

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XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 06:46 PM
I don't really know. Its the first one in the Russian campaign. I really like the, but it seems fairly complicated. I guess practice makes perfect.

Cpt.LoneRanger
07-29-2003, 07:12 PM
Probably an I-16 or I-153?

If you have complexe engine management engaged in difficulty settings, your engine will get no fuel while pushing negative Gs.

With other words: If in a plane without canopy, don't push the stick forward /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

greets
Cpt.LoneRanger

XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 07:20 PM
It must be an I-16. I'm using the Logitech cordless Joystick. It works very well. I'm on easy for now but would like to advance ASAP. Is this going to be a long drawn out experience? The last flight sim i played was Crimsom Skies wich pales in comparison. The problem seems to happen in other planes as well. What career do you recomend i start with to learn the game?

XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 08:30 PM
It only happens on the early russian planes, the I-16 and the I-153. Just avoid pulling the nose of the plane down. If you want to make a deep dive, turn upside down first.

To learn how to play any campaing will do. You may want to practice first using the quick mission builder, and watching the training videos is also a good idea. There is some learning curve, but it is deffinitively worth it.




GATO_LOCO

Cpt.LoneRanger
07-29-2003, 08:37 PM
Well, with a Hurricane (early version), you have the same problem /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Apart from that, flying in IL2 is not very difficult. You juust gotta figure out the different strentghs and weaknesses of the different aircrafts. If you learned to fly with an I-16 you're pretty helpless in an FW190.

I'd suggest to train in the QMB (QuickMissionBuilder), starting attacks against TB3-Bombers or something like that. You'll learn how to handle your fighter very quickly and how to aim and fire effectively. You can also figure out, what aircrafts you can fly with instinctively.

I'd suggest the La5(FN) or La7 for Sovjet side and Bf109K for German side. These are probably the most easiest planes to fly and you'll be successfully very quickly.

(And the engine doesn't stop on certain maneuvers /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif )

greets
Cpt.LoneRanger

XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 10:07 PM
Cpt.LoneRanger wrote:
- ....
- I'd suggest the La5(FN) or La7 for Sovjet side and
- Bf109K for German side. These are probably the most
- easiest planes to fly and you'll be successfully
- very quickly.
- ....
-
- greets
- Cpt.LoneRanger
-
-


And just to add to all of this engine business, I've practiced flying with La-5FN almost exclusively, and although I'm still quite a rookie, one thing I've noticed is that it's engine is VERY weak when shot at... Like attacking bombers in La-5 can get very frustrating as your engine seems to loose it's RPMs when the enemy even looks at you.

But anyways, happy practicing! I suggest the La-5 to you too.

Cpt.LoneRanger
07-29-2003, 10:54 PM
I guess you tried to attack a bomber from dead 6.

This will kill your engine or your pilot in any aircraft.

Again the variety of aircrafts holds the answer: You have to find the weak spot of a bomber and if there is no weak spot (there always is /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif ), try to spray and pray. Shoot into the flightpath of the bomber, testing with how much you have to aim in front of it and attack in steep dive of climb, turn before too close to it. That way you will survive longer.



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greets
Cpt.LoneRanger

XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 12:48 AM
Cpt.LoneRanger wrote:
- I guess you tried to attack a bomber from dead 6.
-
- This will kill your engine or your pilot in any
- aircraft.
-
- Again the variety of aircrafts holds the answer: You
- have to find the weak spot of a bomber and if there
- is no weak spot (there always is /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif ), try to spray and pray. Shoot
- into the flightpath of the bomber, testing with how
- much you have to aim in front of it and attack in
- steep dive of climb, turn before too close to it.
- That way you will survive longer.
-
-
-
- /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
-
- greets
- Cpt.LoneRanger
-

Actually no, I no longer attack 'em from straight behind 'em, I try to do it from a dive, although that's not entirely possible when attacking a TB going 20km/h and 10m off the ground /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Like for an example, my bro usually takes the TB when he's getting bored at the game when we play on LAN, and attacking that thing is just a suicide in the La.
My plane of choice to kill those TB's has been the P47, because of those 8 guns and neat "Extra Ammunition" loadout /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif .
I can clearly see the difference between the engine of La and P47. I usually get my oil splashed on the windshield on the P47, but it takes many (bad) runs from me to get myself blow up (And I'm not really trying to keep myself alive even). The La is completely different matter, I'd say 7-8 times out of ten my RPM's drop to few hundred no matter how highspeed dive I make my run in. The damn motor just get's it everytime.

Not that I'm whining or saying it's unrealistic or whatnot, I'm just saying the engine is the La's weak spot, definietly /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Oh and thanks for the tips LoneRanger.

michapma
07-31-2003, 08:46 AM
Welcome to Forgotten Battles and the IL-2 community. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif

HerbinatorX wrote:
- It must be an I-16. I'm using the Logitech cordless
- Joystick. It works very well. I'm on easy for now
- but would like to advance ASAP. Is this going to be
- a long drawn out experience? The last flight sim i
- played was Crimsom Skies wich pales in comparison.
- The problem seems to happen in other planes as well.
- What career do you recomend i start with to learn
- the game?


One of the early-war careers start with the I-16. This is a great little plane, and you can learn to keep from killing the engine easily. Don't push forward on the stick too rapidly. Anything that would cause significant negative Gs, along with flying upside down for very long, will starve the gravity-fed carburettors. If you hear your engine starting to die, quickly pull back on the stick for a short time to get fuel back to the engine. If the engine dies, you can't restart it in the air.

If you are used to flying in Crimson Skies it will take some adjusting to the flight models in FB. I actually don't recommend that you start with easy settings, you can develop some pretty bad habits. Fly around a bit using the QMB with the hard settings, and see if you can get used to it. Try to shoot down an enemy bomber with its weapons set to empty instead of default. This will help you get used to the complicated gunnery.

Above all, as in real airplanes you can't just "bank and yank". You have to be conservative with the pressure you put on the stick. It's not always the best idea to get your nose pointed toward the enemy airplane as quickly as possible. Conserve your energy (airspeed and altitude) by not turning too hard and win a superior position by patient maneuvering. That's part of real air-to-air combat.

Cheers,
Mike

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XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 08:54 AM
solo against a TB3 all its guns are on you so you either use big cannon and stay back and boom and zoom or if you have small guns swoop and jink a lot .. the early fw190 such as the A4 are pretty good cos they take a lot of punishment plus they roll fast -- letting you jink about come up from under them invert hit em again then sidestep ..

you can get close into a bomber but the second you keep flying straight or even the same way up you are dead http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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