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II_JG1Hartmann
08-16-2004, 10:54 AM
http://www.aviation-history.com/grumman/f6f-1.jpg

http://www.aviation-history.com/grumman/f6f-10.gif

This was casued by condesnation and pressure changes and was very common from what I have read. So this causes the halo effect as its called.

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II_JG1Hartmann
08-16-2004, 10:54 AM
http://www.aviation-history.com/grumman/f6f-1.jpg

http://www.aviation-history.com/grumman/f6f-10.gif

This was casued by condesnation and pressure changes and was very common from what I have read. So this causes the halo effect as its called.

[This message was edited by II_JG1Hartmann on Mon August 16 2004 at 11:14 AM.]

[This message was edited by II_JG1Hartmann on Mon August 16 2004 at 11:17 AM.]

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08-16-2004, 11:40 AM
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Tooz_69GIAP
08-16-2004, 11:46 AM
Wow, that would be cool to see!!

whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

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JG7_Rall
08-16-2004, 11:46 AM
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http://www.aviation-history.com/grumman/f6f-1.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~nate.r5388/fw190sig.jpg
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JG7_Rall
08-16-2004, 11:47 AM
Ah, I've got this pic somewhere on my HD. It would be great to see in PF!

http://home.comcast.net/~nate.r5388/fw190sig.jpg
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II_JG1Hartmann
08-16-2004, 12:18 PM
I'm also curious about smoke and flames from crashes as well as the ships themselves. Depending on conditions it blew straight back unlike the biblical pillars of smoke we now have that raise meters into the air STRAIGHT UP.

II_JG1Hartmann
08-16-2004, 12:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://www.aviation-history.com/grumman/f6f-1.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~nate.r5388/fw190sig.jpg
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Thanksd Rall couldnt remember! hehe

FRAGAL
08-16-2004, 01:23 PM
this would be cool to see, though i wouldn't like to see it everytime u started the engine or were running at idle cos it would just get boring but say in certain types of weather conditions etc

CowboyTodd41
08-16-2004, 08:18 PM
I think most of the rings are due to the length of of the exposure

http://www.spankdonkey.com/jamming/view.php/1782.png

Jason Bourne
08-16-2004, 08:27 PM
nope, check out the top pic, the plane isnt even moving, if you dont believe me, look at the crew, the flag, and the spokes of the planes wheel. it wasnt all that long of an exposure.

VF-11 Vadger
08-16-2004, 08:31 PM
The rings are due to the humidity in the air this was not an umcommon sight and if you watch most shows on the pacific theater of the war on channels like the History Channel you will see video of that exact same shot.

http://www.highalpharc.com/COD/cod2.jpg

Athosd
08-16-2004, 09:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CowboyTodd41:
I think most of the rings are due to the length of of the exposure

http://www.spankdonkey.com/jamming/view.php/1782.png <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Incorrect, as already pointed out. Also look at the lower picture (marked TR-8003) where the plane is actually moving - the exposure is so short that you can see the prop blades.

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VFA-195 Snacky
08-17-2004, 12:26 AM
Think of the blades as aircraft wings rotating around a central axis. What happens to your wingtips when your AOA is too high?

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actionhank1786
08-17-2004, 02:35 AM
whoever said it was because of the humidity is right (i'm too lazy to look at who wrote it) But it is a very cool effect. I saw a video of an F-4U taking off, and it just gunned the engine and rolled off the deck, and it looked so pretty with it's adorable little curl of condensation...
so...who's gonna throw the brick through the development teams window with "Prop Vapor Trails" written on it? Any one willing to take the bullet for the team on this one...? Anyone? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

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08-17-2004, 02:43 AM
If it was exposure everything would feel the "long light" exposure effect, not just the prop.

It is bascially the same effect as the consendation that forms when you bank too hard.

http://www.zeuxis.nildram.co.uk/images/seafury.gif

McCallaway
08-17-2004, 05:39 AM
From here :
http://www.archives.gov/research_room/research_topics/world_war_2_photos/world_war_2_photos.html#aviation

70. "Dynamic static. The motion of its props causes an `aura' to form around this F6F on USS YORKTOWN. Rotating with blades, halo moves aft, giving depth and perspective." November 1943. 80-G-204747A. (ww2_70.jpg) )

PapaSmurf630
08-17-2004, 05:54 AM
I've seen pictures of C130's with the same effect, except on all of the engines.

II_JG1Hartmann
08-17-2004, 07:25 AM
I will die if i see the dust!

EmbarkChief
08-17-2004, 09:46 AM
Helo's do the same thing...

At least the AH-1's and UH-1's.

Flydutch
08-17-2004, 10:55 AM
actualy,

By moving the existing wing tip 'smoke' effect to the tips of a propellor.... and Only efective when your prop makes High revs!

The 'Wingtip smoke' toggle is to me(A serious Historic Campaigner) a feature that is useless.
But will be a more then welcome realistic 'eye candy' in the form of this Prop vortex.

ShadowHawk__
08-17-2004, 11:44 PM
Quite common in high humidity.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=638615&WxsIERv=TG9ja2hlZWQgSGVyY3VsZXMgQy4zIChDLTEzMEsp&WdsYXMg=VUsgLSBBaXIgRm9yY2U%3D&QtODMg=SGFub3ZlciAoLSBMYW5nZW5oYWdlbikgKEhBSiAvIEV ERFYp&ERDLTkt=R2VybWFueQ%3D%3D&ktODMp=SnVseSAzMSwgMjAwNA%3D%3D&BP=0&WNEb25u=U2VyZ2UgQmFpbGxldWw%3D&xsIERvdWdsY=WFYxODQ%3D&MgTUQtODMgKE=RGVwYXJ0aW5nIHZpYSAyN1Igd2l0aCB0aGUgd 2VsbCBrbm93biB2b3J0aWNlcy4uLg%3D%3D&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=Mjcz&NEb25uZWxs=MjAwNC0wOC0xMw%3D%3D&ODJ9dvCE=MTg0&O89Dcjdg=NDIwMQ%3D%3D&static=yes

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