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XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 06:24 AM
THX 4 the patch...it rocks....exept 4 some smal things, but I'm sure u'll fix them/i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif THX AGAIN/i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif

I'v got 1 question left>>>when are we going to get ADD-on?/i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif
can we plz have some updates on it...
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XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 06:24 AM
THX 4 the patch...it rocks....exept 4 some smal things, but I'm sure u'll fix them/i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif THX AGAIN/i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif

I'v got 1 question left>>>when are we going to get ADD-on?/i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif
can we plz have some updates on it...
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XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 06:28 AM
I agree. Except for the "K4 matter" and a few other quibbles,I think the patch is just fine.

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XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 06:44 AM
Yep the patch is great. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Now I can't wait to get my hands on the Mustang. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
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XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 06:52 AM
Agreed. Tracks are fixed, the Stuka mixture problem was fixed, my engine sound doesn't fade out. I really can't get all tied up in knots over the K4 rudder. There are so many other 109 variants to fly and it will be fixed at some point. Some people just seem to have got hold of the wrong end of the stick.

XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 07:31 AM
Well apparently our stick just keeps getting shorter and shorter /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 07:56 AM
Here Here Black!!!

I think we are down to a stub now!!!! LOL

XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 08:24 AM
The final patch is absolute crap. None of the promised things are better. Sound, Netcode still sucks. Additional bugs were implemented instead to solve them./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif FB is patched to death and botchy./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 08:54 AM
i think the pach is great ( except the k-4) thanks

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XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 10:18 AM
EyesBlack wrote:
- Well apparently our stick just keeps getting shorter
- and shorter /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
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Sometimes i wonder if it's the express goal of the dev. team to slowly suck the life out of the K-4... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 11:05 AM
sorry to say, but the 109 has become a eunich now, not talking about the k4 rudder only, but all 109's
accelaration is completely gone, climb has been tuned down.
if u want proof that 109's have become worse... go check at vef2 site, check mission outcomes before final patch and after final patch. before the patch, missions were being won on a even basis, and OKL pilots managed to get home safe even if mission was lost, and go check now.. OKL is being slaughtered. VEF is currently in 1941, and in real life, I'm pretty sure the tides were turned.. OKL was doing excellent against the russians, even if the russians had numerical superiority.

also the damage modeling is rediculous.. one shot from a il2 reargunner almost always gets your engine fried.. or hits a control cable.. rediculous..

dont say we still have the uber 190, cause those birds are never flyable in the VEF missions.

so basically,
tnxs for nothing oleg



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XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 11:15 AM
JZG_Yunus wrote:
- sorry to say, but the 109 has become a eunich now,
- not talking about the k4 rudder only, but all 109's
- accelaration is completely gone, climb has been
- tuned down.
- if u want proof that 109's have become worse... go
- check at vef2 site, check mission outcomes before
- final patch and after final patch. before the patch,
- missions were being won on a even basis, and OKL
- pilots managed to get home safe even if mission was
- lost, and go check now.. OKL is being slaughtered.
- VEF is currently in 1941, and in real life, I'm
- pretty sure the tides were turned.. OKL was doing
- excellent against the russians, even if the russians
- had numerical superiority.
-
- dont say we still have the uber 190, cause those
- birds are never flyable in the VEF missions.
-
- so basically,
- tnxs for nothing oleg
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XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 10:22 PM
you must be joking, this patch is a piece of crap, FM balance is killed, (see 109 post) and its still buggy. If y ou fly preferably Red though i can understand that you are pleased...

I hate this patch and i start to hate Maddox..first he creates my favourite game and then he continues crippling it more with every patch...

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XyZspineZyX
09-05-2003, 10:32 PM
Try an I-16, than an La-7. Were talking the same plane, pitted against each other it's an even turn fight. Now that's funny. In 1.1beta the 7 would have slaughtered the I-16, now the I-16 can rule a 45 server.

XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 04:35 PM
> I-16 can rule a 45 server

That WOULD have to be a server with some crappy '45 pilots

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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 04:45 PM
turn_n_burn wrote::

-- Try an I-16, than an La-7. Were talking the same plane,
-- pitted against each other it's an even turn fight. Now
-- that's funny. In 1.1beta the 7 would have slaughtered
-- the I-16, now the I-16 can rule a 45 server.

Hey, if that's your style, try I~153 biplane in a 45 server. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I like that K4 is limited to only 2 waypoints in FMB now, making mission building *much* easier.

Thanks Oleg!

ZG77_Nagual
09-06-2003, 05:04 PM
I agree - the patch is excellent.
I got into it vs a yak3 in a 109f4 the other night - the yak driver was good - using vertical maneuvers, roll and turn but keeping his e advantage (he entered the fight with an alt advantage). 262 came through and blew the yak away and I came out of the fight thinking I was not doing to well. Reviewing the track however - I see the yak went defensive about halfway through and I was the only one who got hits. Fight included pulling out of a 750kph dive at verylow alt - the 109f performs very well in all regimes if you ask me. Got some kills in the p47 too - which is great now and alot of fun to fly.

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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 07:48 PM
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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 07:54 PM
ZG77_Nagual wrote:
- I agree - the patch is excellent.
- I got into it vs a yak3 in a 109f4 the other night -
- the yak driver was good - using vertical maneuvers,
- roll and turn but keeping his e advantage (he
- entered the fight with an alt advantage). 262 came
- through and blew the yak away and I came out of the
- fight thinking I was not doing to well. Reviewing
- the track however - I see the yak went defensive
- about halfway through and I was the only one who got
- hits. Fight included pulling out of a 750kph dive
- at verylow alt - the 109f performs very well in all
- regimes if you ask me. Got some kills in the p47 too
- - which is great now and alot of fun to fly.
-

ZG77_Nagual i think you are only interested with 109f .fly 109g you will notice what we are talking about.

XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 10:03 PM
completely disapointed fm's seem to change backwards and forwards between patches, for the amount of things that get fixed the same amount get unfixed. 109's seems to get downgraded at every opportunity
where as vvs planes eg: la7 and yak3 get a ridiculous 15 sec turn time and t34 damage profile.
If this carries on people are gonna start thinking they dont know what their doing or are just trying to rewrite history..

XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 04:59 AM
I think the court is still out on this being a "DAMN GOOD JOB". I for one think it's a step backwards as do many others. It seems the G2 has been crippled so maybe it's a good job for anyone that likes flying VVS aircraft exclusively. I like to fly both and find it difficult to enjoy the OKL planes now. The 109s stall characteristics have been increased and they bleed speed much quicker. I honestly feel that if they had left the FM from 1.1b alone (except for slowing the roll rate of the 190, increasing the roll rate of the P47, fixing the sound issue and Stuka bomb release issue). That the community would be much happier as a whole.

XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 05:07 AM
Your nose is brown.

XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 05:31 AM
The sound is definitely not fixed. It's great if all you do is online dogfights, but online coops and offline campaigns are borked bigtime, engine sounds still drop off, the voices are gone for your flight and wingman. Just an observation of a major problem