View Full Version : Is Landing Really Necessary?

06-01-2004, 01:31 PM
Newish and wanting to go online - new broadband.
Is take off and landing needed to play online? I'm happy to learn to fly but didn't buy the game/sim to play 'FlightSim 1941'

Any thoughts?


06-01-2004, 01:31 PM
Newish and wanting to go online - new broadband.
Is take off and landing needed to play online? I'm happy to learn to fly but didn't buy the game/sim to play 'FlightSim 1941'

Any thoughts?


06-01-2004, 01:37 PM
It is up to the host - however all servers I have played on lately use takeoff and landing to begin and end sorties. I love it this way and would have a hard time flying in one where half of the fun and challange was removed.


06-01-2004, 01:42 PM
Thanks. I'll need to work on the 'slow bits' then.

06-01-2004, 02:19 PM
Takeoffs are optional.
Landings are mandatory.

06-01-2004, 02:28 PM
its worth learning... just learn how to slow the plane down, and keep it slow without stalling. then, assuming your wheels are down, try not to plonk it too hard onto the tarmac, you should be okay.

oh, and if you crash the first 10-20 attempts, dont lose heart... its normal for most complete flying newbs. hell when i first started playing il2 id been playing flight unlimited 1, 2 and 3 for ages, i still crashed all the time. world war 2 aircraft can be tricky to put down!

06-01-2004, 02:35 PM
BBLoke server on UBI.com does not have takeoffs. It's airstart. You can land if you want.

06-01-2004, 02:40 PM
I could shoot down 500 enemies in a single mission and not be as pleased as performing a grease-job landing.

Take-offs are easier than you think. Just lock the tail-wheel and increase the throttle slowly and smoothly.

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06-01-2004, 02:46 PM
maybe you should try that secret weapons flight game - you don't even need a joystick.

this is combat flight simulation.




06-01-2004, 02:57 PM
Perhaps JG-50 Recon's reply is why flight sims are a niche?

Thanks for the helpful replies I'll work on my approaches.


06-01-2004, 03:02 PM

Me too! I'm looking for a squad comprised of rear gunners. The takeoffs and landings are where the thrill is..it's all that dying in between that is depressing! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif Just alittle razzing from one newguy to another. The hurricane allows a good view and smooth takeoffs and landings. That Il-16 is a crazy plane for me to takeoff with.

06-01-2004, 03:13 PM
Uh oh,you won`t getaway from landings bud,that`s for sure http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


06-01-2004, 03:35 PM
I agree with JG50_Recon.

I`d rather be part of a niche market rather than have `flight sim` which starts in the air and finishes in the air, cos some arcade flyer couldn`t be bothered to enjoy the thrill and challenge of landing and taking off (which isn`t that hard anyway).
Yes, it`s a combat flight simulation.



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06-01-2004, 03:41 PM
Oooooh - Get you

06-01-2004, 03:51 PM
I much prefer to land at the end of a sortie, although I don't know how many times I crashed trying!

06-01-2004, 04:34 PM
You are misssing out on a key part of flying if you don't do the landings IMO. It can be quite hard when you first start playing this sim, but you will get the hang of it.

Nothing more nerve racking in this game than having a great mission and then having to make a landing to get credit for all your work. If you are shot up with considerable damage, it can be really thrilling!


06-01-2004, 07:35 PM
It is defineatly worth learning to do, like Baldie said there's more satisfaction in a good landing than shooting a plane down...
First time I landed a plane I think I was was happier than my first time having sex...LOL
OK maybe not but...
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06-01-2004, 07:40 PM
Danny Jim !! - please take the time to learn the two most important aspects of flying, getting yourself up in the air - and getting safely back down again. Everything else is only sauce for the goose. And dont mind the 'sauce' from some of our community, they were taught to fly by wolves.

06-01-2004, 07:47 PM
there is no better feeling than taking off, shooting down 2 enemy aircraft, then doing a perfect 3 point landing in your damaged, fuel-less aircraft and getting 100% of the points allocated. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sooner or later you'll realise that IL2/FB isn't a game for arcaders (they usually leave and uninstall IL2/FB or stay and become good players).

06-01-2004, 08:23 PM
When I play on-line with friends (co-op) I want to get to the action as quickly as possible so we don't use take off and landings. It lets us do more missions together.

When we dog fight each other we use them. As well I love using them in single player mode

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06-01-2004, 08:44 PM
try this its my secret to perfect landings..

1) Find your airport first and get lined up to the runway
2) Get your airspeed to around 180 maintain level flight
PS: Learn to control the prop pitch if you have difficulty maintaining your airspeed.
3) Set flaps to 'landing'
4) Maintain course and altitude to around 150-200 if you are far from the base.
5) On approach lower your throttle to like 30 to 15% (depends on the plane's weight and wing surface). Watch your stability that is and incrase throttle if you need to maintain 180 speed.
6) When you are over the runway, drop your throttle to idle speed if not like 5%.
7) Lower landing gear, wathc for this since some planes will get unstable if you are too fast and stall.
8) When your altitude drops to 100 and below, have the nose of your plane slightly above the horizon, sometimes level flight works but watch your plane since any drastic pull back will cause it to stall/spin and your plane will dive towards the ground.
9) Let your plane glide down.

This works for me. I am sure some people would have their own suggestions.

I cannot think of playing this game w/o taking of and landing now... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Without those take-off and landings it feels like I am doing a Star Trek 'transporter' job into my cockpit http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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06-01-2004, 09:18 PM
Taking off and landing are very rewarding. Of course, that doesn't mean I'm good at it. But boy do I try!

Red Russian

06-02-2004, 02:27 AM
Three downloads of landing tracks:

Spitfire (http://members.optusnet.com.au/tully_78th/quick0002.zip) (includes takeoff)
Two different P47 approaches (http://members.optusnet.com.au/tully_78th/p47s.zip)
P-63 (http://members.optusnet.com.au/tully_78th/p63landing.zip) (this one is a real challenge!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

If you'd like a demo for a particular aircraft, let me know.



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06-02-2004, 04:47 AM
I don't know why but I quite enjoy landing battle damaged planes with bits shot off, smoke coming out the engine etc. Theres somthing I really enjoy about getting the plane back and getting it on the ground (and in once peice).

It also helps you team in FDB run servers as they don't loose the plane or pilot.

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06-02-2004, 05:23 AM
landing, I find, beats crashing as a rule. I would imagine, though I have no experience to speak of, that would hold in RL too. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Best sense of satisfaction (apart from first kill) I got was learning to land properly - took me ages when first got Il2!


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06-02-2004, 06:48 AM
I love it when I manage to do a perfect landing with a damaged plane, I find it even more rewarding than a kill (my shooting is 10% luck, 5% skill and 85% misses - God bless noobies who fly 109's with underwing pods and try to dogfight... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif).

Said that, it took me a good three months of intermittent play before I was able to figure out how to land properly and manage to do it consistently, so the only solution, once again is practice, practice, practice...


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06-02-2004, 08:02 AM
I don't thing DannyJim quite realized what he got himself into with IL2-FB. This aint no kiddie arcade game. The stick isn't there to just move the plane around like an X-wing fighter. You must learn to FLY an airplane first. And flying includes takeoff and landing. Yes, it's called a game, but this is more about simulation than being a game.

06-02-2004, 08:12 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif For a lot of us it's not just about shooting at stuff -- it's about a virtual flight experience. Look how much effort this fellow expended for a virtual flight experience ... with an in-cockpit-view-playback of his landing lol:

virtual flight (http://www.angrykoala.com/videos/AngryKoalaPinkPantherSS(small).wmv)

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06-02-2004, 08:59 AM
Try having a small child, wife or friend fly the sim during challenging or boring periods and having them call you and hand the controls over to you whenever they have a shot lined up. I have been doing this for years now and it is the only way to go.