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watteville
02-29-2004, 03:47 PM
As a pilot, one of the most satisfying moment of a flight is when I start on the ground; The click of the switches, the slow turbine like sound of the gyro's starting to spin, priming the engine according to temperature the whine of the starter and the greasy too rich first explosions of the engine.
And that's just a 172, I once started a L-19, it was the same except 6 cylinders & the great sounding electric priming pump.

FB starting sounds are pretty good but I'd like to hear different electric gyros, switches, priming pumps, inertia starters, and explosive starters.

Anyone here ever started a 27 liter V12 or a 18 cylinder 2000 hp radial?

watteville
02-29-2004, 03:47 PM
As a pilot, one of the most satisfying moment of a flight is when I start on the ground; The click of the switches, the slow turbine like sound of the gyro's starting to spin, priming the engine according to temperature the whine of the starter and the greasy too rich first explosions of the engine.
And that's just a 172, I once started a L-19, it was the same except 6 cylinders & the great sounding electric priming pump.

FB starting sounds are pretty good but I'd like to hear different electric gyros, switches, priming pumps, inertia starters, and explosive starters.

Anyone here ever started a 27 liter V12 or a 18 cylinder 2000 hp radial?

Taylortony
02-29-2004, 04:35 PM
Biggest I have ran was a caribou that had Pratt & Whitney R-2000 engines also most light piston aircraft and twins.....

pacettid
02-29-2004, 04:54 PM
When I started my first T-28C Trojan (1575hp radial), I was scared ___tless http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif, as my plane captain was standing there with the fire extinguisher pointed at my exhaust stacks, as a precaution for preventing a stack fire...made me swallow hard...lol.

When the damn thing finally started I was flabbergasted by the noise, the amount of smoke, and the vibration...the whole damn instrument panel was vibrating left and right...that memory is quite vivid, as I was truly surprised by it at the time.

I also remember having to really put my feet into the brakes when I "ran her up" during my preflight checks. Even though the parking brake was fully set, you could barely hold her. I also seem to remember the prop looking a whole lot bigger than it does in IL-2 FB http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

All that said, I think the most memorable moment I had sitting behind that big *** radial was when I turned on final during my first Precautionary Emergency Landing (PEL). I had the canopy open, as there was alot of oil on the windscreen that was blowing back from a ruptured prop seal and what do I see as I looked out to the left? Two fire engines with lights and sirens blazing, and "my name written all over them"...the only thing faster than me egressing that bird, after she came to a stop, was my instructor http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

All the best, Don

[This message was edited by pacettid on Tue March 02 2004 at 04:09 AM.]

Sturmtrooper
02-29-2004, 05:31 PM
LMAO !!!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Sorry , Don .
I'm not laughing AT you .
I'm laughing WITH you !

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CD_Turbo
03-01-2004, 04:15 AM
hello i have had the privilige to try various turboprop engines and participated in a testrun of a merlin IIb if i remember right, swedish mustang called Gul kalle.

Also been in a testrun of a viggen rolls royce avon . that was brilliant!
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Friendly_flyer
03-01-2004, 05:34 AM
I once stood fairly close to a Yak-9 (the only flying one I think) starting up during an air-show. There was an electric whine, a thud and a series of loud bangs, then the engine came to life on a puff of dark grey smoke. I quite distinctly remember picking up a small vibration through the soles of my summer shoes.

It's some 15 years back, but i remember it rather vividly http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Fly friendly!

Petter Bøckman
Norway

karost
03-01-2004, 05:57 AM
WOW.....
Thanks for pilot's friend here share you good memories and experience for me(us) like to read all of line that you write.

This is the very good post , any real-pilot would like to share you story please join

I(we) still like to read more and more ...

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hunhunter-texas
03-01-2004, 05:57 AM
P51 and Spitfire IX http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Bansai Potato
03-01-2004, 06:07 AM
Start and run-up to temp regularly a Harvard IV with a big Pratt and Whitney R-1340, thats quite fun.

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watteville
03-01-2004, 07:36 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
I once stood fairly close to a Yak-9 (the only flying one I think) starting up during an air-show. There was an electric whine, a thud and a series of loud bangs, then the engine came to life on a puff of dark grey smoke. I quite distinctly remember picking up a small vibration through the soles of my summer shoes.

It's some 15 years back, but i remember it rather vividly http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifQUOTE]

The electric whine was probably the inertia starter gaining rpm, the thud the starter clutch engaging, and it should have been followed by the shriek of the slipping clutch?? and the slow prop rotation and engine fireing.

could Those who started Merlins take us thru each step and describe each noises it makes?

TgD Thunderbolt56
03-01-2004, 07:36 AM
T-6's a few times and a Stearman twice.

Nothing like that radial rumble. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif



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73GIAP_Milan
03-01-2004, 08:05 AM
Well, i've stood fairly close to a few Merlins that were started...each time still seems different..

Definitely NOT the sounds that Microsoft tries to sell with it's CFS series...(sound like lawnmowers http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif).
The sound of a starting Merlin is also dependend on the exhaust types fitted (Fishtail or stubs) and in which aircraft it is mounted in, like a Mustang (Packard Merlin) or Spitfire (Rolls Royce).. I was near a Hurricane and a Spitfire and both sounded not the same..

First you hear the electric starter whine, then it catches and the prop rotates, you hear a few bangs and coughs and then dependend on the state of the engine the cylinders fire up each with a small bang, pufs of smoke and flames..until all cilinders are fired and the engine is no longer running unsmooth and it starts it's really awesome roar... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

i still want to hear a Bf109 with an original Daimler Benz being started...must be a real thrill too..and a P47 Thunderbolt or another Pratt&Whittney R2800 type engine plane...

regards,

Der Tote Baron a.k.a. SK_Black_Knight....
______________________________
Sky Knights Squadron Leader

willyvic
03-01-2004, 08:32 AM
Was fortunate enough to be able to start a Navy EC-121 in 1972 while stationed at Naval Air Station Agana Guam. Got to switch the switches so to speak as the Flight Engineer walked me through. This was a start for a flight to Cubi Point, Philippines where I was to be attached for a couple of months. The trade off for being able to start the engines was my having to wipe down the flaps and underwings upon landing at Cubi. Took me over an hour! I was one of the last out the gate for liberty that day. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Only time I ever got to start up those 3350's. But my recollection is one of pure horsepower.

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tttiger
03-01-2004, 12:03 PM
Almost every book I've read by a WWII P-51 or P-47 fighter pilot emphasizes how loud it was in those cockpits.

They also emphasize how crappy the ear cups were on US flight helmets. A really prized possession was a British flight helmet, which apparently had excellent sound absorption.

To your original point, yes it would be great to her all those startup sounds.

It also would be great if St. Oleg allowed third party sound packs. Almost every other sim I know of has them and most are much better than the standard noises.

ttt

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-- Chuck Yeager describing "The Best Airplane."

il_gufo
03-01-2004, 12:55 PM
Check these out:

http://www.aircraftrecords.com/

I own Rounds Sounds Vol I. Very nice. I like to crank up the sound on my work computer and freak people out in the hall with a Corsair low speed pass.

Taylortony
03-01-2004, 05:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CD_Turbo:
hello i have had the privilige to try various turboprop engines and participated in a testrun of a merlin IIb if i remember right, swedish mustang called Gul kalle.

Also been in a testrun of a viggen rolls royce avon . that was brilliant!
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
CD_turbo
combatdevils.tk<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ahh they were talking piston engines before when i posted, I have done full ground runs on lots of gas turbs, from the Jaguar (Ground attack slowly back) ... through to the VC10 (queen of the skys), also Hunters, Tornado's (jack of all trades, master of none) i cant remember what i have run as i do it day in day out, so only the odd ones stick out, people speak of standing beside aircraft as they run...................... well spits i can do that all summer long, bloody noisey heap, but as to exotica, well i when based at RAF St Athans they used to run the fighters they had in the museum and i have been on the team running those, these had the original engines in em and the ones that come to mind were the Focke wolf 190 and the zero i think, but they had quite a few so i didnt take much notice, they were run for someone to record the sounds for a cd / tape at the time, and all being an old aircraft at that they meant nothing to me as it was just another aircraft. so i never took much notice of what it was..

Targ
03-01-2004, 05:19 PM
R-2800's on a DC-6

SKY_BOSS
03-01-2004, 05:19 PM
Does a 426 Hemi count. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif It has 1500 plus HP.

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