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TheWitty97
02-07-2004, 01:22 AM
All I know is that it was a late model Spitfire with a new engine and a 5-blade prop.

Was it used during WW2? How was it's performance? What about that engine?

Thanks!

TheWitty97
02-07-2004, 01:22 AM
All I know is that it was a late model Spitfire with a new engine and a 5-blade prop.

Was it used during WW2? How was it's performance? What about that engine?

Thanks!

MiloMorai
02-07-2004, 01:42 AM
You can start here http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/spittest.html

Lots of good books out there. Of note, the Spit bible, Spitfire: The History.

Spit XIIs of which 100 were made saw duty with #41 and #91 Sqds from Jan '43.

Spit XIV from Jan '44.

Spit PR XIX from June '44.

Spit 21 was deliver from Sept '44.

Spit 22 with contra props just missed WW2 Europe with production starting Mar. '45.



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Rajvosa
02-07-2004, 06:10 AM
Actually, it's "Girffon", not Griffin.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

In short - 2000 + hp, larger, heavier, rotates in opposite direction. BUT, it turns the Spit into a rocket. Hope we get the Mk XIVE!

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Platypus_1.JaVA
02-07-2004, 06:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rajvosa:
Actually, it's "Girffon", not Griffin.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

In short - 2000 + hp, larger, heavier, rotates in opposite direction. BUT, it turns the Spit into a rocket. Hope we get the Mk XIVE!

Golf GTI Edition 2.0 16v (Rest In Pieces!)

http://204.83.160.230/archive/b/images/MementoMort.jpg<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually nr#2, It is gRIffon and not gIRffon http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Rajvosa
02-07-2004, 07:07 AM
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Ouch! You got me!

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Taylortony
02-07-2004, 07:37 AM
if ya want i can post a load of shots of the engine etc from the one at work as well as cockpit views

Rajvosa
02-07-2004, 07:39 AM
Please do, mate!!! Post them!

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VW-IceFire
02-07-2004, 07:47 AM
There is a FR XIV in progress by Fievel and Hammerd both who are doing an excellent job on the fighter.

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/645.html

The Griffon powered Spitfires were the ultimate in the wartime Spitfire lineup. This gave them incredible speed and overall boosted the aircrafts performance. They certainly look different than the Merlin Spitfires because the engine is bigger and longer and there are two buldges on either side of the engine compartment for parts of the engine to fit in.

When we get the XIV, it will be on similar footing to the FW190D-9, Bf 109K-4 and the La-7 in terms of extreme performance and flexibility.

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Oso2323
02-07-2004, 08:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
The Griffon powered Spitfires were the ultimate in the wartime Spitfire lineup. This gave them incredible speed and overall boosted the aircrafts performance. They certainly look different than the Merlin Spitfires because the engine is bigger and longer and there are two buldges on either side of the engine compartment for parts of the engine to fit in.
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The only downside to the Griffon models was that they were no longer as easy to fly as the earlier Merlin variants. And they were ugly! Well maybe not horrible. :-)

We shouldn't notice much in FB - the harder to fly point.

Wilie_Wombat
02-07-2004, 09:10 AM
A Spitfire can never be ugly, maybe a bit less cool, but never ugly!

WW

VW-IceFire
02-07-2004, 09:15 AM
Something about a massively powerful engine and a five bladed propeller makes me think the Griffon Spitfires (especially with a buble canopy) is even better looking than the other ones.

Very sleek!

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horseback
02-07-2004, 10:06 AM
The word I associate with wartime Griffon Spitfire Marks is "menacing." They were brutes, and the prop turned the 'wrong' way, in the opposite direction of the Merlin, and with so much torque that you really had to apply full left trim and full left rudder to keep it straight down the runway for takeoff.

Squadrons that transitioned from Mk IXs to Mk XIVs always had one chap who forgot to apply his trim in the correct direction before takeoff, and ground-looped spectacularly. Not the reason you want to have everyone know your name...

Cheers

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Taylortony
02-07-2004, 10:19 AM
Ok i have uploaded the pictures see

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=519102981

[This message was edited by Taylortony on Sat February 07 2004 at 10:16 AM.]

ericson
02-07-2004, 11:18 AM
The Griffon was a new engine based on the Merlin. It kept the 12 cylinders capacity was increased from 27 litre to 36.7 litres. The frontal area was within 6% length within 3 inches and weight within 300 lbs of the Merlin. So it could be fitted to the Spitfire. The first was the MK IV DP845 first flew November 1941. The engine was not as smooth as the Merlin but the changed cowling gave a slightly better view. The best combat day of the Griffin engined spitfires(MKXII) was 20 Oct 1943 when 2 Squadrons were attacked by 25 109's and 190's near Rouen. During the Melee Spitfires claimed the destruction of 8 without loss to themselves. They also shot down a useful number of V 1's

LeadSpitter_
02-07-2004, 03:07 PM
best performance but the damn ugliest spitfire ever made

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Oso2323
02-07-2004, 04:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
best performance but the damn ugliest spitfire ever made
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Actually I think that award would go to the post-war Mk 22.