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topeira1980
11-02-2014, 06:53 PM
Since i know it's against the rules to show the videos im talking about the people who have seen these videos and I can discuss them.

so here are a few things i've learned from these videos -



1) rain confirmed. i didnt know weather can change mid mission but apparently it can. at least rain and clouds that cast nice shadows on paris.

2) Rifles take the place of the melee weapon and are used as a blunt weapon. a very lethal one that can take out enemies in 1 or 2 hits sometimes.

3) In case of a blunt weapon like the rifle enemies who are down are not necessarily dead. they lie there incapacitated. you can finish them off with the HB.

4) It seems like enemies can follow you deep into buildings. not sure if this is realistic. we can see the player on the second floor of a building and when he kills attackers indoors once they die there is a "last known position" silhouette left where arno is standing. not sure if the way enemies know that arno is on that second floor because they've seen him come in or it's some magical senses.

5) enemies later in the game have 4 dots out of 5 above their heads. so it really seems like this is the rank of the enemy. However it doesnt seem like they fight more intelligently in any way than the rank 1 enemies....
however they do deal about 3 health chunks in one hit, so even the beefed up arno with 11 health chunks could have been killed in 4 hits. and health doesnt regen, but we knew that already.

6) the game seems to run smoothly on PS4 but there are the occasional NPCs or BG details pop-ins at medium distances. i only witnessed two occasions in the 20 minutes of gameplay so IMO its rare enough and i wouldnt mind. maybe i wasnt looking for it though...
also there was this day time instance with a huge crowd and it doesnt seem like the frame rate dropped so much. still seemed smooth enough.

7) navigating through the crowd doesnt slow arno down very much.

8) nice little details i appreciated: when arno countered an enemy and punched him, the enemy stumbled backwards a little but since there was a carriage right behind him his stumbling changed direction realistically when he bumped against it.
also when enemies were rushing towards arno indoors and there was a desk in the way they simply vaulted over it to get to him faster.
i love those animations of the NPCs in the streets, arguing, pulling each other, talking, sword fighting....

9) small details i didnt like:
some artificial changes in dropping direction happened to allow arno to free-run down - instead of dropping right downward his fall shifted him about 2 meters to the side towards a ledge. seems to be really rare.
and enemy standing merely 8 meters away from his friend inside a room in the night didnt even notice arno slicing the other friend's throat, not was he bothered that right after arno stood in front of him reloading his rifle.

he later died.

10) heavy attacks trail glows red while normal attacks leave a white trail.

11) it seems like you can carry only about 5 or 6 of each consumables later on (we cant tell what memory sequence that was) so it doesnt seem like you can carry 15 medicines anymore.


i know there is this debate about how bad some screenshots from the PS4 look but to me the game looks great, especially due to scope, lighting and animations. no one can judge textures and image quality through YT. I still cant wait for the game. i just hope it runs on my PC.

I hope this topic doesnt get locked or deleted.

Wolfmeister1010
11-02-2014, 06:55 PM
From Watching Livestream (Note it is the crappiest quality imaginable but still)

Pros:

Paris is absolutely massive and gorgeous.
The graphics are wonderful. Seeing Past protagonist’s outfits in the new lighting system is un-worldly.
Animations are top notch in climbing and fighting.
Blood effects are super nice.
Random encounters happen frequently but not TOO frequently a la TOKW.
The city is full of life. NPC behavior is amazing. People dragging NPCS across streets, fighting each other, carrying each other, throwing chairs, carrying flags, harassing downed citizens.. it is truly amazing.
Lots of cool interiors and underground areas.
Customization looks sweet.
The Paris Story missions seem great. Definitely a step up from generic contracts. one seemed a bit boring- escorting an NPC and protecting them from waves of enemies, but some seemed awesome like raiding a building for a piece of equipment.
Combat music is varied and AWESOME.
Crowds can get HUGE.
Combat seems pretty difficult and fun.
Unlike previous games, enemies will almost always hit you with their guns when you are climbing.

Cons:
Murder Mysteries seem pretty boring to me. Maybe once I actually do them in English it will be more fun to solve the puzzles.
Ambient music is nowhere to be seen.
Blending circle and weapon trails are unbelievably annoying.
Some parts of the city are packed but sometimes the streets are weirdly empty AF. I suppose it is a historical thing or something they did on purpose to add to the feel of the city.

m4r-k7
11-02-2014, 06:58 PM
The stream was such bad quality it was hard to see anything.

There was an awesome legacy outfit from someone we have never seen before though.

Everything in OP I appreciated :D

Hans684
11-02-2014, 07:13 PM
So how long do think this thread is gonna survive?

jayjay275
11-02-2014, 07:22 PM
So how long do think this thread is gonna survive?

Probably not long. However, I've barely seen the mods these past few days..

YazX_
11-02-2014, 07:27 PM
I hope this topic doesnt get locked or deleted.


So how long do think this thread is gonna survive?

Personally i dont see anything that breaks the rules other than posting spoilers without tags (SO PLEASE WRAP CONTENTS WITH SPOILER TAGS), however, i edited the posts that have spoiler tags missing and urge everyone to use them, if you dont know how, then check the spoilers warning sticky thread on the main board

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/938931-*IMPORTANT*-Please-read-SPOILER-WARNING-RULES!

Anyway, it will remain open unless a forum manager/community manager decided otherwise, so no promises :)



Probably not long. However, I've barely seen the mods these past few days..

We are always here but unnecessarily posting, sometimes we just monitor, so rest assured that there will always be Mods/Forum Managers/Community Managers watching.

Layytez
11-02-2014, 07:40 PM
No modern day gameplay :(. All I saw was a woman talking to you asking if you ready to join the fight and that they stole a file from Abstergo

JustPlainQuirky
11-02-2014, 07:43 PM
No modern day gameplay :(. All I saw was a woman talking to you asking if you ready to join the fight and that they stole a file from Abstergo


I knew Modern Day was dropped

Alphacos007
11-02-2014, 07:45 PM
I knew Modern Day was dropped


I think it was pretty clear that it was going to be dropped, unfortunately. I hope there is something on Rogue at least.

JustPlainQuirky
11-02-2014, 07:48 PM
I think it was pretty clear that it was going to be dropped, unfortunately. I hope there is something on Rogue at least.



Darby said there would be a Modern day. It would just be different.

I'm pretty sure he was referring to time anomolies and helix data gathering but that doesn't even remotely count.

It's sad.

ah well. It's better nothing than hacking minigames and walls of text.

jayjay275
11-02-2014, 07:51 PM
No modern day gameplay :(. All I saw was a woman talking to you asking if you ready to join the fight and that they stole a file from Abstergo

Expected as much, to be honest.

JustPlainQuirky
11-02-2014, 07:56 PM
I need to ask Darby about what he meant by Modern Day then. hnnn.

Anyway, game looks good. I expect Elise to die tragically.

Only gripe is Elise will never be playable *single tear*

I hope we see how Arno dies so we don't have to yell for Arno sequel

ACfan443
11-02-2014, 08:01 PM
I need to ask Darby about what he meant by Modern Day then. hnnn.

Anyway, game looks good. I expect Elise to die tragically.

Only gripe is Elise will never be playable *single tear*

I hope we see how Arno dies so we don't have to yell for Arno sequel


***Spoiler Removed: Link directs to a site that contains rumours and leaks

Alphacos007
11-02-2014, 08:01 PM
I hope we see how Arno dies so we don't have to yell for Arno sequel

I'm sure that's not going to happen, but one can hope.
100% sure it doesn't happen in the game, as we have a DLC that is after the game. But maybe in the end of the DLC? Or in some other DLC? Who knows...

Hans684
11-02-2014, 08:32 PM
***Spoiler Removed: Link directs to a site that contains rumours and leaks

Disappointed with the requirements to get legacy outfits. Initiates/companion App, might as well not have it in the game.

dxsxhxcx
11-02-2014, 08:33 PM
***Spoiler Removed: Link directs to a site that contains rumours and leaks

interesting page for people who don't mind spoilers.... thanks!

JustPlainQuirky
11-02-2014, 09:00 PM
Disappointed with the requirements to get legacy outfits. Initiates/companion App, might as well not have it in the game.


WHAT!??!?!?!?! THAT"S COMPLETE BS!!! SOURCE PLS!!!

Tho send the source on my twitter or PM cuz I think links not allowed

YazX_
11-02-2014, 09:03 PM
Guys, as i said, if you want this thread to remain open, don't post links/videos/images that lead to leaks and rumors, otherwise this will result in closing this thread and getting infractions to users who dont comply with forum rules.

JustPlainQuirky
11-02-2014, 09:05 PM
I'm so mad about the legacy outfits omigod.

Literally the only way devs can get people to use initiates is to lock legacy outfits behind it.

this sucks. i shouldn't have to use that *shudders* website to use legacy outfits.

god I hope that's not true.

and i dont even have a touch devcie for the stupid companion app



@YAZ_H

alright m8

KG_NOx
11-02-2014, 09:06 PM
WHAT!??!?!?!?! THAT"S COMPLETE BS!!! SOURCE PLS!!!

Tho send the source on my twitter or PM cuz I think links not allowed



there you go

dxsxhxcx
11-02-2014, 09:06 PM
WHAT!??!?!?!?! THAT"S COMPLETE BS!!! SOURCE PLS!!!

Tho send the source on my twitter or PM cuz I think links not allowed



Easy to say that the app and Initiates are a success backed up by numbers when you force the player to use them to get what they want... (assuming there's no other way to get them)

Hans684
11-02-2014, 09:09 PM
WHAT!??!?!?!?! THAT"S COMPLETE BS!!! SOURCE PLS!!!

Tho send the source on my twitter or PM cuz I think links not allowed



Sent you the link, it's a PM.

JustPlainQuirky
11-02-2014, 09:10 PM
Easy to say that the app and Initiates are a success backed up by numbers when you force the player to use them to get what they want...


I am seriously so pissed off right now.

I though to myself "fine, if you want to force yourself in Unity go ahead. I'll just ignore the chests"

but NO. We literally CANNOT have legacy outfits without using that garbage.

What a joke.

fcederberg
11-02-2014, 09:15 PM
Can someone please PM me the link to?

JustPlainQuirky
11-02-2014, 09:16 PM
Looks like I won't be using any of the legacy outfits.

I'm not giving initiates my clicks.

I rather be forced to play Ride to Hell for 48 hours straight.

Layytez
11-02-2014, 09:21 PM
Not ideal to use Initiates to unlock stuff but I don't mind it. It gives me something to do while I'm on break during lectures.

PedroAntonio2
11-02-2014, 09:22 PM
I'm seriously worried about this game...that stupid blue circle, the stupid AI, the pop-ins, Ubisoft forcing us to use Initiates and the Companion App, lack of quality side-quests and most of them requires the online components,cliche storyline. The parkour s bizarre to say at least, I don't know...some of those movements are just unreallistic and he is so slow to run and the way he run just makes me want to cut his arms off. And the boring soundtrack and lack of ambient music doesn't help.

My hype for this game was killed after watching those leaked gameplays, it's a shame I already pre-ordered the game. Well, at least AC Rogue sounds more fun and promising.

TheArcaneEagle
11-02-2014, 09:23 PM
Looks like I won't be using any of the legacy outfits.

I'm not giving initiates my clicks.

I rather be forced to play Ride to Hell for 48 hours straight.


Ride to Hell > AC Initiates + Companion App

From what I've seen from the leaks, game looks great.

JustPlainQuirky
11-02-2014, 09:24 PM
UNITY 2:

This time we won't be able to go to the next sequence until we log on initiates!

Oh boy!

KG_NOx
11-02-2014, 09:24 PM
Looks like I won't be using any of the legacy outfits.

I'm not giving initiates my clicks.

I rather be forced to play Ride to Hell for 48 hours straight.


At least they put it in the game and fixed too

SpiritOfNevaeh
11-02-2014, 09:26 PM
UNITY 2:

This time we won't be able to go to the next sequence until we log on initiates!

Oh boy!



Dont jinx it *gulp*

GunnarGunderson
11-02-2014, 09:27 PM
What's up with the reload speed of that rifle? It may as well be semi-automatic

SHADOWGARVIN
11-02-2014, 09:31 PM
Could someone please pm me the link?

It's very disappointing news.

Hans684
11-02-2014, 09:32 PM
At least they put it in the game and fixed too

Doesn't mean a thing if we can't access anything.

JustPlainQuirky
11-02-2014, 09:38 PM
It's hard to tolerate something you dont like when that thing you don't like is constantly being shoved in your face. And you cant even continue what you're doing without not only acknowledging its existance, but forcing yourself to interact with it.

My god.

PedroAntonio2
11-02-2014, 09:41 PM
Oh God, could Unity be more disappointing than ACIII ?

KG_NOx
11-02-2014, 09:41 PM
Doesn't mean a thing if we can't access anything.

What do u mean?

The fact that not everyone has mobile devices? I'm just looking at the bright side, it could be worse if they didn't include any legacy outfits

JustPlainQuirky
11-02-2014, 09:43 PM
What do u mean?

The fact that not everyone has mobile devices? I'm just looking at the bright side, it could be worse if they didn't include any legacy outfits



I rather there be no legacy outfits than force hiding it behind initiates.

That's like putting a really good cake behind a wall of puke

DavisP92
11-02-2014, 09:46 PM
What are you guys watching, I want to see

wvstolzing
11-02-2014, 09:46 PM
I'm suddenly longing for the days when I had only a dial-up modem, and being 'online' meant connecting to a BBS for maybe 30mins. a day.

Back then you didn't do something online, unless there was a reasonable need for it.

Alphacos007
11-02-2014, 09:52 PM
Oh God, could Unity be more disappointing than ACIII ?

Please don't say ever again. I don't want a curse over this game.

DavisP92
11-02-2014, 09:54 PM
Okay so i've read most of this thread and see a lot of people are freaking out. So what's really the bad things people are noticing about the game? I'm sure the pros out way the cons, but I'd like to hear what people are saying. And what video is everyone watching?

KG_NOx
11-02-2014, 09:55 PM
I rather there be no legacy outfits than force hiding it behind initiates.

That's like putting a really good cake behind a wall of puke



true, i can only imagine people getting hands on in the game and then:

"Yay lets play some AC unity where you're force to use something to get something cool *boring voice* "

Probably the best way we have its going dark otherwise people will be ashamed

JustPlainQuirky
11-02-2014, 10:00 PM
@KG


I'm tempted to start an anti initiates hashtag because of this.

friggin' initiates



Okay so i've read most of this thread and see a lot of people are freaking out. So what's really the bad things people are noticing about the game? I'm sure the pros out way the cons, but I'd like to hear what people are saying. And what video is everyone watching?



Initiates is terrible. I've always refused to use it while at the same time didn't complain when others used it. I tolerated its existance.

But now Ubisoft is holding Legacy Outfits ransom until we us it. It's a middle finger to fans.

PedroAntonio2
11-02-2014, 10:01 PM
I like Initiates, but forcing us to use it to unlock chests, side quests and outfits is just stupid. Ubisoft is already butchering the franchise with DLCs, Season Pass, Pre-Order Exclusive Missions and now they are restricting things with Initiates and Apps. Just no, Ubisoft....NO!

Alphacos007
11-02-2014, 10:02 PM
For the images I saw though, seems like you just need to join Initiates in order to get them.
I'm not defending Initiates in any way, but at least you don't have to use the site, just open it once, register, and then you're good to go.
Better than nothing, I suppose.

PedroAntonio2
11-02-2014, 10:03 PM
For the images I saw though, seems like you just need to join Initiates in order to get them.
I'm not defending Initiates in any way, but at least you don't have to use the site, just open it once, register, and then you're good to go.
Better than nothing, I suppose.

Yeah, but what about the Companion App ? Looks like we are going to use both of them to unlock the Legacy Outfits and other stuff

JustPlainQuirky
11-02-2014, 10:04 PM
@pedro

im going to have to go out of my way to borrow a touch device for the app

website/app transmedia is so stupid 99% of the time




For the images I saw though, seems like you just need to join Initiates in order to get them.
I'm not defending Initiates in any way, but at least you don't have to use the site, just open it once, register, and then you're good to go.
Better than nothing, I suppose.


If we ONLY have to have an account, I might be ok.

Because I am already technically registered from previous use.

But if we have to complete some BS task I swear to god...

Pr0metheus 1962
11-02-2014, 10:11 PM
Oh God, could Unity be more disappointing than ACIII ?

I honestly don't think it could be that bad, and I'm usually the first to assume a game is gonna suck. Personally, I think it's going to be somewhere around the AC: Revelations level, which I can handle if they manage to avoid anything like the stupid tower defense games. The thing is, there's a big difference between the level of Revelations and that of AC: Black Flag (which I consider the 3rd best AC game).

A bad sign, I reckon, is Alex Amancio, who was the lead on Revelations. Kinda implies that the historical background stuff and any love story are going to suck (as they did in Revelations). But then again, maybe he's learned from past mistakes.

A good sign is that they seem to have pulled out all the stops on getting Paris right. So even if the game suuuucks, in the words of the movie, "We'll always have Paris"... to roam around and enjoy.

Namikaze_17
11-02-2014, 10:17 PM
So...

We have to use Apps to get Legacy Outfits?
If so, NO! NO! NO!

king-hailz
11-02-2014, 10:20 PM
From Watching Livestream (Note it is the crappiest quality imaginable but still)

Pros:

Paris is absolutely massive and gorgeous.
The graphics are wonderful. Seeing Past protagonist’s outfits in the new lighting system is un-worldly.
Animations are top notch in climbing and fighting.
Blood effects are super nice.
Random encounters happen frequently but not TOO frequently a la TOKW.
The city is full of life. NPC behavior is amazing. People dragging NPCS across streets, fighting each other, carrying each other, throwing chairs, carrying flags, harassing downed citizens.. it is truly amazing.
Lots of cool interiors and underground areas.
Customization looks sweet.
The Paris Story missions seem great. Definitely a step up from generic contracts. one seemed a bit boring- escorting an NPC and protecting them from waves of enemies, but some seemed awesome like raiding a building for a piece of equipment.
Combat music is varied and AWESOME.
Crowds can get HUGE.
Combat seems pretty difficult and fun.
Unlike previous games, enemies will almost always hit you with their guns when you are climbing.

Cons:
Murder Mysteries seem pretty boring to me. Maybe once I actually do them in English it will be more fun to solve the puzzles.
Ambient music is nowhere to be seen.
Blending circle and weapon trails are unbelievably annoying.
Some parts of the city are packed but sometimes the streets are weirdly empty AF. I suppose it is a historical thing or something they did on purpose to add to the feel of the city.

What live stream!!! I wanna see..........

JustPlainQuirky
11-02-2014, 10:20 PM
So...

We have to use Apps to get Legacy Outfits?
If so, NO! NO! NO!


AND INITIATES


Dang it, Ubi. Halloween has passed. Enough with the scary stories!

jayjay275
11-02-2014, 10:22 PM
So does Initiates enforce me to do stuff or do I just need an app to unlock stuff? It be the latter...

Fatal-Feit
11-02-2014, 10:22 PM
Speaking of Legacy Outfits, they all look so darn good in Unity. It seems they not only fixed the animations, but improved it.

Namikaze_17
11-02-2014, 10:25 PM
AND INITIATES


Dang it, Ubi. Halloween has passed. Enough with the scary stories!


Then...

*Facepalm*

Hans684
11-02-2014, 10:26 PM
Please don't say ever again. I don't want a curse over this game.

It already is cursed and we can't do anything about it. It's like those zombie movies or Game Of Thrones.

Namikaze_17
11-02-2014, 10:30 PM
Speaking of Legacy Outfits, they all look so darn good in Unity. It seems they not only fixed the animations, but improved it.


I Agree. :)

rprkjj
11-02-2014, 10:40 PM
I think they took the livestream down, sadly.

Also, companion anything is kind of a blight on AAA games. I can kind of see the attraction of having a meta game to play on your phone when you're away from your console/PC, but then it's like all of a sudden I'm missing plot details when I'm not using different websites and apps that add absolutely nothing to the core experience. And now they're gates to in-game content: seriously wtf? That just sounds like incredibly backwards design, to make players operate something almost completely out of the core experience to properly enjoy the core experience.

SlyTrooper
11-02-2014, 10:41 PM
Where has everybody heard about needing an app to get the legacy outfits???? I don't have any tablets, so I can't do that. I don't mind logging on to Initiates because most people who care about these outfits will have internet, but why would they make us use an app?

Come on Ubi! I've stood by your side for years, now it's time for you to do me a favour.

jayjay275
11-02-2014, 10:47 PM
Where has everybody heard about needing an app to get the legacy outfits???? I don't have any tablets, so I can't do that. I don't mind logging on to Initiates because most people who care about these outfits will have internet, but why would they make us use an app?

Come on Ubi! I've stood by your side for years, now it's time for you to do me a favour.
It is rumoured about the legacy outfits, but c
Some chests will require a companion app.

GoldenBoy9999
11-02-2014, 10:53 PM
Ubisoft what are you doing guys? Don't force your fans to use Initiates and the mobile app. There are no reasons for these restrictions. :(

DavisP92
11-02-2014, 11:03 PM
Initiates is terrible. I've always refused to use it while at the same time didn't complain when others used it. I tolerated its existance.

But now Ubisoft is holding Legacy Outfits ransom until we us it. It's a middle finger to fans.



I never used initiates, so I'm not really bothered by it. It must really suck for people to reacting like this. I'll check it out when I want to get the content it provides

Layytez
11-02-2014, 11:18 PM
Asbtergo have Johns body and are using it.
"Project Phoenix" is them trying to decode First Civ DNA and are going public about it i think. Or what was shown was just for Abstergo eyes but it was a presentation/advert type of thing so I'm not sure.
We play as Arno because he meets a Sage and is present in his death I think
We are initates

wvstolzing
11-02-2014, 11:36 PM
I hate the very word 'app', and I'm serious about it.

In my day, you had to give the memory address of a PROGRAM in a machine language monitor to start running it.

.G 0330

LIke that.

(+1 to everyone who recognizes what machine I'm talking about. Though most of you people are too young for that stuff....)

KG_NOx
11-02-2014, 11:42 PM
Maaaaaan the things i've just watched in that live stream :nonchalance:

rprkjj
11-02-2014, 11:45 PM
Maaaaaan the things i've just watched in that live stream :nonchalance:

Is the stream archived? Where was it? I need details pls.

Alphacos007
11-02-2014, 11:47 PM
Maaaaaan the things i've just watched in that live stream :nonchalance:

PM me links please.

Reaper-59
11-02-2014, 11:49 PM
PM me the link as well please

rprkjj
11-02-2014, 11:53 PM
Que me up for a pm with links please.

Layytez
11-02-2014, 11:55 PM
I have present day info if you guys want just PM me since that stream went down but there is another but he's further in the game.

wvstolzing
11-02-2014, 11:57 PM
Guys; it's only 9 days away; don't even bother.

DavisP92
11-02-2014, 11:57 PM
Does anyone know if Ubisoft allowed us to customize where our weaopns are placed or if there are any daggers/shortswords? I know there are 4 weapon attributes (speed, parry, damage, etc.) i've never seen anything that is focussed on speed, is there anything?

Subject J80
11-03-2014, 12:06 AM
Would Ubi bring the dates forward? Dudes are playing it on Twitch. Gutted.

KG_NOx
11-03-2014, 12:07 AM
did u guys get it?

DumbGamerTag94
11-03-2014, 12:09 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible to have both a rifle and a sword in Unity???? Because if not I guess I'm going to go with sword and pistol.

rprkjj
11-03-2014, 12:11 AM
Guys; it's only 9 days away; don't even bother.

Excuse me but 9 days may as well be an eternity...

I'm exaggerating, but as long as it doesn't ruin my experience then I'll take anything to feed the hype train.

Layytez
11-03-2014, 12:12 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible to have both a rifle and a sword in Unity???? Because if not I guess I'm going to go with sword and pistol.Having a rifle replaced your melee weapon. You can use your rifle to hit them and also shoot them. Slow hits but strong

DumbGamerTag94
11-03-2014, 12:14 AM
Having a rifle replaced your melee weapon. You can use your rifle to hit them and also shoot them. Slow hits but strong

Ehhhhh I do not like that. That's incredibly stupid. Not even a bayonet??? Just clubbing people???? I'll pass then. I guess sword and pistol it is for my preferred load out

Layytez
11-03-2014, 12:21 AM
Ehhhhh I do not like that. That's incredibly stupid. Not even a bayonet??? Just clubbing people???? I'll pass then. I guess sword and pistol it is for my preferred load outI didn't see all the rifles so there could be ones with bayonets. The only rifle I saw was without one hitting people.

MnemonicSyntax
11-03-2014, 12:54 AM
I rather there be no legacy outfits than force hiding it behind initiates.

That's like putting a really good cake behind a wall of puke



Oh relax. You don't even know the details.

Besides, Ubi seems to be putting stuff that isn't really necessary but more "cool to have" on Initiates. I hate Initiates too and it's not that big of a deal if you want them bad enough. Stop over-exaggerating.


I hate the very word 'app', and I'm serious about it.

In my day, you had to give the memory address of a PROGRAM in a machine language monitor to start running it.

.G 0330

LIke that.

(+1 to everyone who recognizes what machine I'm talking about. Though most of you people are too young for that stuff....)

Load "$", 8


I have present day info if you guys want just PM me since that stream went down but there is another but he's further in the game.

I'd like that info please, as well as any other links that can be provided PM'd. Spoil away!

JustPlainQuirky
11-03-2014, 12:58 AM
Besides, Ubi seems to be putting stuff that isn't really necessary but more "cool to have" on Initiates. I hate Initiates too and it's not that big of a deal if you want them bad enough.


I strongly disagree.

MnemonicSyntax
11-03-2014, 01:04 AM
I strongly disagree.

You disagree because you *need* the Legacy Outfits to complete the game? Needs and wants are oceans apart mate.

You're making a big deal out of nothing. Hop on Initiates for a few minutes and get your outfits. Complaining about it won't do you any good here, or being selfish because you would rather *not* have outfits then do Initiates. Don't do Initiate then, problem solved.

So, to recap.

You'd rather not have the outfits than do Initiates.
You don't like Initiates.
So you can have the best of what *you* want and just not do it.

Savvy?

Wolfmeister1010
11-03-2014, 01:10 AM
I agree with Rice. Needs and wants are apart as you say...but ALL content should be in the actual game itself.

That being said I don't really mind using an app I guess. Expect for glyphs..that should be an in game experience.

MnemonicSyntax
11-03-2014, 01:12 AM
I agree with Rice. Needs and wants are apart as you say...but ALL content should be in the actual game itself.

That being said I don't really mind using an app I guess. Expect for glyphs..that should be an in game experience.

It's in the game if you get on Initiates.

And for all we know, Initiates changes for the better.

Layytez
11-03-2014, 01:13 AM
The Legacy outfits are vanity items. Not really a big deal.

JustPlainQuirky
11-03-2014, 01:15 AM
Initiates changes for the better.

I'm willing to bet against that

rprkjj
11-03-2014, 01:18 AM
I'm willing to bet against that

Same, it'll probably be mostly similar with a flashier design and the companion stuff.

RA503
11-03-2014, 01:19 AM
Please, someone PM me with the link for the spoilers page I don't mind then and I very curious...

LoyalACFan
11-03-2014, 02:15 AM
Leaked footage looks great apart from those hideous weapon blurs. Blegh. Hopefully we can turn them off.

MnemonicSyntax
11-03-2014, 02:24 AM
I'm willing to bet against that

But in the meantime think the worst, right?

When I bought my AC figures, it was as simple as logging onto Initiates and imputing the code for whatever in-game item I qualified for since I purchased said action figure. It might just be something like that.


Same, it'll probably be mostly similar with a flashier design and the companion stuff.

Here's how it's already better: It's not Community Challenges. You want in-game stuff but can't get on at a certain time because of other obligations? Bought the game months after release and Community Challenges aren't going on anymore, so you miss the in game stuff?

It could be far worse.

LoyalACFan
11-03-2014, 02:31 AM
Arno seems to share a lot of his rifle animations with Connor's war club, which is actually fine by me; Connor's club fighting was AWESOME.

RA503
11-03-2014, 02:59 AM
Ha ha ha I found some pearls on net, a curiosity from those who see spoilers: the leaked image of the woman talking about the project phoenix and the jonh standish is from the beginning of the game ?

Wolfmeister1010
11-03-2014, 03:23 AM
Ha ha ha I found some pearls on net, a curiosity from those who see spoilers: the leaked image of the woman talking about the project phoenix and the jonh standish is from the beginning of the game ?

...what?

Just everything about your post..what?

RA503
11-03-2014, 03:37 AM
...what?

Just everything about your post..what?

Are things that I can not post the link here but I PM you.

MnemonicSyntax
11-03-2014, 03:48 AM
Are things that I can not post the link here but I PM you.

PM me as well please

Matt.mc
11-03-2014, 03:55 AM
Are things that I can not post the link here but I PM you.

Me too please, thanks.

prince162010
11-03-2014, 04:10 AM
Are things that I can not post the link here but I PM you.

PM me too .

KrYpToNiC95
11-03-2014, 05:00 AM
How do I add a spoiler tag, there's something I want to share which looks very very exciting

News about versailles

Versaille is a whole city

Wolfmeister1010
11-03-2014, 05:04 AM
just saw a video of Versailles. I didn't want to spoil myself but from a high building it seems like it is an entire city! Hopefully I'm not wrong

[spoiler] and then add same thing but with /spoiler

Or you could just PM people...like me XD

Can you PM me the video?

KrYpToNiC95
11-03-2014, 05:12 AM
Just sent it :)

Matt.mc
11-03-2014, 05:16 AM
Just sent it :)

I too, would much appreciate a PM

MnemonicSyntax
11-03-2014, 05:24 AM
KrYpToNiC if you could send it to me as well please. Thanks!

Jet_Cobra
11-03-2014, 07:51 AM
shameless lurker asking for whatever links people seem to be tossing about :p

mindidee
11-03-2014, 09:05 AM
Another lurker and Assassin's Creed fan that would like present-day information :D

king-hailz
11-03-2014, 09:17 AM
Am I allowed to post about the modern day as long as I have a spoiler tag? Oh well...

Well in the modern day you just see a bunch of cuts scenes from a woman who looks like Rebecca or she could just be another initiate... she finds an abstergo file that tells them that the templars want the sages lineage to find more pieces of Eden... and our job is to find the sage quickly (since arno meets one) and give the assassin's his information before the templars find it!!! What a lot of CRAP!!!! Ubisoft you are really *ucking this up! We need a protagonist done well... In the modern day.... don't give us this bullsh*t where just one day of initiates has more progression than the whole of the game!!! Something big should happen! We should be able to play it!!! Don't just give us the story on a sh*tty website that nobody wants to use!!! How would you feel if your watching a TV show and they just stopped making and put all the story on a website! It would be crap! So don't do it!!! Rogue is the same as unity but we get to play a mute character with no personality and no face! This is my favorite franchise and you don't care about your fans you just care about pleasing newcomers! I'm seriously so pissed at ubisoft right now!

Moultonborough
11-03-2014, 09:30 AM
Am I allowed to post about the modern day as long as I have a spoiler tag? Oh well...

Well in the modern day you just see a bunch of cuts scenes from a woman who looks like Rebecca or she could just be another initiate... she finds an abstergo file that tells them that the templars want the sages lineage to find more pieces of Eden... and our job is to find the sage quickly (since arno meets one) and give the assassin's his information before the templars find it!!! What a lot of CRAP!!!! Ubisoft you are really *ucking this up! We need a protagonist done well... In the modern day.... don't give us this bullsh*t where just one day of initiates has more progression than the whole of the game!!! Something big should happen! We should be able to play it!!! Don't just give us the story on a sh*tty website that nobody wants to use!!! How would you feel if your watching a TV show and they just stopped making and put all the story on a website! It would be crap! So don't do it!!! Rogue is the same as unity but we get to play a mute character with no personality and no face! This is my favorite franchise and you don't care about your fans you just care about pleasing newcomers! I'm seriously so pissed at ubisoft right now!

I agree. I would like to see a decent modern day but that is pretty much what I expected. No real need to get angry over it. It's not going to solve anything...Just sayin.

king-hailz
11-03-2014, 09:41 AM
I agree. I would like to see a decent modern day but that is pretty much what I expected. No real need to get angry over it. It's not going to solve anything...Just sayin.

Your right it won't... bit I had to express my anger somewhere...

andrew_m50
11-03-2014, 10:13 AM
Well in the modern day you just see a bunch of cuts scenes from a woman who looks like Rebecca or she could just be another initiate... she finds an abstergo file that tells them that the templars want the sages lineage to find more pieces of Eden... and our job is to find the sage quickly (since arno meets one) and give the assassin's his information before the templars find it!!! What a lot of CRAP!!!! Ubisoft you are really *ucking this up! We need a protagonist done well... In the modern day.... don't give us this bullsh*t where just one day of initiates has more progression than the whole of the game!!! Something big should happen! We should be able to play it!!! Don't just give us the story on a sh*tty website that nobody wants to use!!! How would you feel if your watching a TV show and they just stopped making and put all the story on a website! It would be crap! So don't do it!!! Rogue is the same as unity but we get to play a mute character with no personality and no face! This is my favorite franchise and you don't care about your fans you just care about pleasing newcomers! I'm seriously so pissed at ubisoft right now!

So, only cutscenes in modern days? Even no "silent floating camera"? Maybe we can do some minor missions later in the game...

king-hailz
11-03-2014, 10:27 AM
So, only cutscenes in modern days? Even no "silent floating camera"? Maybe we can do some minor missions later in the game...

Yeah maybe I did only see that bit...

andrew_m50
11-03-2014, 10:32 AM
Yeah maybe I did only see that bit...
If you remember Black Flag, we also started the game with NO modern day story...and after the first sequence, the modern day storyline started.
So I hope Unity will go like this as well.

king-hailz
11-03-2014, 10:37 AM
If you remember Black Flag, we also started the game with NO modern day story...and after the first sequence, the modern day storyline started.
So I hope Unity will go like this as well.

But I highly doubt there will be any game play in modern day since they have said we are the protagonist... more than black flag... so we will start the game which will automatically start the helix and we wi go straight into the action...

Jet_Cobra
11-03-2014, 11:41 AM
At least it's a step up from Destiny, that game has almost no story and lore until you read the grimoire cards ONLINE ON A COMPUTER. and then suddenly everything starts connecting, barely mentioned characters are fully fleshed out, some of the deep intriguing lore from the game would actually make it more enjoyable if it were used to a better degree in the game, the only purpose the cards serve really is to be a display of the multitude of content they cut from the game. and it's put cryptically on these cards on a very specific part of bungie's site that almost nobody will ever read

IS that really what initiates is?

Matt.mc
11-03-2014, 11:44 AM
Just saw an assassination mission on youtube, stealthing through a mansion like the coop e3 demo, it looks so cool! The AI/stealth really has improved, he got detected by a enemy on the roof but quickly killed him and it didn't alert the whole place like the previous games. anywhoo, if you want to watch it just type in assassins creed unity gameplay on YT and put the search to "upload date" n you'll surely find it.

phoenix-force411
11-03-2014, 11:58 AM
Transitions from animation to animation is not done too well, and it still sort of bothers me. I loved ACIII's transitions.

Matt.mc
11-03-2014, 12:04 PM
IMO the best "transition animations" is in Watch Dogs. It was so flued.

YazX_
11-03-2014, 02:00 PM
Guys, as i said earlier, if you want to keep this thread open for discussion and avoid getting infractions, you MUST use SPOILERS TAGS for any info that contains spoilers and also please dont turn this thread to links request, this is your final warning so please stick with these rules.

topeira1980
11-03-2014, 02:43 PM
he he. i've just seen some gameplay footage in 60FPS (im not sure how he turned a footage that was captured in 30FPS and turned it to 60 but i guess there are softwares that do that) and my god it's so un-cinematic.... everything is so silky smooth like butter and looks so much fun to play... nothing like cinema. thank god it's only 30 on consoles. thank you UBI. good call... *rolling eyes*

RA503
11-03-2014, 03:41 PM
The Modern Day is not so bad,he become more subtle, ''is better nothing tham this'' is a really bad argument,The important is that he exist and we receive new things like the time anomalies, I very curious to see more of them.The majority of AC games is bait and switch, The plot of 2 is we training but in the end we discovery the those who came before existence,AC 4 is for the observatory but we discovery the concept of sage in the end.

m4r-k7
11-03-2014, 04:35 PM
pffttt in order to unlock the legacy outfits you have to do stuff with the companion app and initiates.

TheArcaneEagle
11-03-2014, 04:37 PM
pffttt in order to unlock the legacy outfits you have to do stuff with the companion app and initiates.

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

-makes other inarticulate moaning sounds-

JustPlainQuirky
11-03-2014, 04:39 PM
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

-makes other inarticulate moaning sounds-

Don't worry. We all have to suffer through it.

http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/I+feel+you+bro+_c348de8ec3c4bee27f1379f2061a9035.j pg

m4r-k7
11-03-2014, 04:39 PM
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

-makes other inarticulate moaning sounds-

To be fair they all kind of look out of place in Paris apart from Arno's Master Assassin Outfit which looks cool (you have to complete all sequences for that one) I will still get them though

MnemonicSyntax
11-03-2014, 04:42 PM
pffttt in order to unlock the legacy outfits you have to do stuff with the companion app and initiates.


UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

-makes other inarticulate moaning sounds-

Again, we don't know the details on that. In order to unlock extra items that came with the MacFarlane figures you had to log onto Initiates, and enter the code that your figure came with.

It might be something along the same lines, as Initiates also recognizes which previous games you've owned before.

Also, as I pointed out before, Initiates, while not something I enjoy either, is far better than getting items from a Community Challenge that you missed out on or are not being done anymore.

Just have a little faith.

JustPlainQuirky
11-03-2014, 04:43 PM
Again, we don't know the details on that. In order to unlock extra items that came with the MacFarlane figures you had to log onto Initiates, and enter the code that your figure came with.

It might be something along the same lines, as Initiates also recognizes which previous games you've owned before.

Also, as I pointed out before, Initiates, while not something I enjoy either, is far better than getting items from a Community Challenge that you missed out on or are not being done anymore.

Just have a little faith.

having to buy toys and enter codes into intitiates was stupid too.

same with community challenges

m4r-k7
11-03-2014, 04:44 PM
I feel like im cheating on the game when I use legacy outfits.

Theres going to be tons of proper customization items this time so I probs wont get round to wearing them xD

MnemonicSyntax
11-03-2014, 04:45 PM
having to buy toys and enter codes into intitiates was stupid too.

same with community challenges

You didn't have to buy them. I bought them because I like them and I collect action figures. The side content to me was a bonus.

And I agree with the Community Challenges. That's my point. At least with Initiates you can access the side content at any time instead of missing out because you had other obligations.

JustPlainQuirky
11-03-2014, 04:46 PM
You didn't have to buy them. I bought them because I like them and I collect action figures. The side content to me was a bonus.

And I agree with the Community Challenges. That's my point. At least with Initiates you can access the side content at any time instead of missing out because you had other obligations.

I saw it more as cutting content from the main game and holding it hostage behind a mandatory purchase.

And that's like saying it's better to have your arms cut off than glass shoved into your eyes.

They both suck.

marvelfannumber
11-03-2014, 04:53 PM
I saw it more as cutting content from the main game and holding it hostage behind a mandatory purchase.

And that's like saying it's better to have your arms cut off than glass shoved into your eyes.

They both suck.

Amen

Farlander1991
11-03-2014, 04:55 PM
At least with Initiates you can access the side content at any time instead of missing out because you had other obligations.

Until Initiates goes kaput which eventually will happen, be it in 1, 2 or 5 years.

Honestly, I'm totally fine with such bonuses, my problem lies with the fact that there's no backup plans and alternative ways to get them.
Verzion Bonus Skin for AC2? Unless you somehow get a correct version that includes it, it's not possible to get it.
Bonus capes for Project Legacy? Kaput, can't get them, because Project Legacy is dead.

But if they'd just be unlocked after some time, or have been a part of the Season Pass/DLC or whatever, everything would be cool, IMO.

SlyTrooper
11-03-2014, 05:07 PM
Is it confirmed yet that legacy outfits need the app, or is that just speculation? I really don't mind if it's on initiates, but I can't access any apps.

TheArcaneEagle
11-03-2014, 05:10 PM
Why not just have them as Uplay rewards.

TheArcaneEagle
11-03-2014, 05:12 PM
Is it confirmed yet that legacy outfits need the app, or is that just speculation? I really don't mind if it's on initiates, but I can't access any apps.

Yes it has. There is a video out there somewhere (I cant find it) with the legacy outfits in previews and the description is something to do with AC Initiates. I'll see if I can find the video and I'll get back to you.

Okay, so does anybody know specifically what we will have to do to unlock these legacy outfits on AC Initiates. Like maybe play previous AC titles / complete them?

Farlander1991
11-03-2014, 05:13 PM
Okay, so does anybody know specifically what we will have to do to unlock these legacy outfits on AC Initiates. Like maybe play previous AC titles / complete them?

Most likely, actually. IIRC, AC4 checks on Initiates to see if you've played previous games to instantly give you the outfits, at least on PC. Like you don't need to do anything on Initiates, just got to have data of playing previous games.

JustPlainQuirky
11-03-2014, 05:13 PM
Until Initiates goes kaput which eventually will happen, be it in 1, 2 or 5 years.


Can't wait.

TheArcaneEagle
11-03-2014, 05:14 PM
Most likely, actually. IIRC, AC4 checks on Initiates to see if you've played previous games to instantly give you the outfits, at least on PC. Like you don't need to do anything on Initiates, just got to have data of playing previous games.

Thank god for that. Well, I best be off to play all AC games now.

Farlander1991
11-03-2014, 05:16 PM
Thank god for that. Well, I best be off to play all AC games now.

Just keep in mind that this is not actually confirmed, but speculation based on how it was for AC4 on PC (I think on consoles it also checked for saves on HD, which is impossible on next-gen as you can't have old-gen saves there).

SHADOWGARVIN
11-03-2014, 05:18 PM
Just keep in mind that this is not actually confirmed, but speculation based on how it was for AC4 on PC (I think on consoles it also checked for saves on HD, which is impossible on next-gen as you can't have old-gen saves there).

It didn't search for saves on your console, but it checked via uplay if you had played any other ac games.

SlyTrooper
11-03-2014, 06:01 PM
Are there any inspired by legacy outfits or are they all exactly as the past Assassins had them?

pacmanate
11-03-2014, 06:03 PM
Kind of random but it's nice to see you guys using the spoiler tag function.

TheArcaneEagle
11-03-2014, 06:17 PM
I don't want to risk it. Anything could be misinterpreted even if its minor minor spoilers.

MnemonicSyntax
11-03-2014, 06:50 PM
I saw it more as cutting content from the main game and holding it hostage behind a mandatory purchase.

And that's like saying it's better to have your arms cut off than glass shoved into your eyes.

They both suck.

Wow, overreact much? Your analogies need work.

The extra content wasn't all that great to begin with, except maybe Haytham's outfit. Everything else was meh or the stats on weapons sucked.


Until Initiates goes kaput which eventually will happen, be it in 1, 2 or 5 years.

Honestly, I'm totally fine with such bonuses, my problem lies with the fact that there's no backup plans and alternative ways to get them.
Verzion Bonus Skin for AC2? Unless you somehow get a correct version that includes it, it's not possible to get it.
Bonus capes for Project Legacy? Kaput, can't get them, because Project Legacy is dead.

But if they'd just be unlocked after some time, or have been a part of the Season Pass/DLC or whatever, everything would be cool, IMO.

Isn't Initiates trying to be that long term backup plan?

As for the previous games, yeah, it would be hard to go back and handle those situations. I think Initiates is going to be the "record keeper" for a long while though.

Even a year is better than the what? 8 months for CC's that Ubi just sorta gave up on?

SlyTrooper
11-03-2014, 07:56 PM
One thing I need to know is if Initiates has actually improved. I'm sure the level was supposed to increase for completing the past games to 100%, but I still remained a really low level. It makes me look like a chump when I've actually completed every AC to 100%.

Sushiglutton
11-03-2014, 08:48 PM
Visually I think it looks great and the scale/interiors are very cool. The level of details in terms of geometry on the buildings is super impressive.

But from what I have seen the gameplay is unfortunately not up to scratch. I don't understand why Ubi year after year refuse to create a compelling combat system. It's starting to get odd at this point as they are clearly aware of it being something a lot of fans want. The parkour looks exactly the same as previous years with the addition of controlled descent. It's a nice feature, but the parkour still lacks a level of mastery. Since almost every surface is easily climbable there's just not any reaons for the player to be creative. Stealth is very similar to previous games with the addition of cover.

The sidemissions (have seen about four side missions and one main mission) are painfully standard AC stuff. And I do mean painfully. The story mission on the other hand was fine as it offered a lot of options for the player. The mod missions are a neat idea and gave the missions a bit variety from the standard infiltration formula. From the footage I've seen (around an hour all in all) I don't think that Ubi has succeeded in reinventing the franchise sadly. The old problems still persists in terms of shallow gameplay and by the numbers mission design. The amount of icons on the map is just ridiculous honestly. Meh this was not what I had hoped for :(.

I still want to play it to explore Paris, but I feel a little bit gutted now. I've only seen an hour though and I know basically nothing about the story, which I'm still excited for. I really hope my intial impressions are way off!!!

I've also been known for being very negative at times and then do a 180 and be very positive, so that's also a factor :).

Mr_Shade
11-03-2014, 08:58 PM
Kind of random but it's nice to see you guys using the spoiler tag function.

As they should.. mhahhahaa ;)

X_xWolverinEx_X
11-03-2014, 10:56 PM
the legacy outfits look amazing but ezios look like **** on arno the others look very good on him

Alphacos007
11-03-2014, 11:37 PM
Mayrice, just though that I should let you know, I saw a video that shows exactly what you need for the legay outfits, which you'll love:

For Edward, register on Initiates and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Connor, reach level 9 in the site, and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Ezio, reach level 12 in the site, and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Altair, connect to the game through the Companion App.
Unfortunately, the guy skipped the one I (and probably you as well) wanted to see the most, which was Shay's. It definitely has to do with Initiates as I saw in another video, but it didn't have enough quality in order to read what it was. But from the above, one can suppose that you'll have to reach some level on Initiates, and find the safe in Paris.

X_xWolverinEx_X
11-03-2014, 11:42 PM
Mayrice, just though that I should let you know, I saw a video that shows exactly what you need for the legay outfits, which you love:

For Edward, register on Initiates and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Connor, reach level 9 in the site, and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Ezio, reach level 12 in the site, and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Altair, connect to the game through the Companion App.
Unfortunately, the guy skipped the one I (and probably you as well) wanted to see the most, which was Shay's. But from the above, one can suppose that you'll have to reach some level on Initiates, and find the safe in Paris.
oh **** me another thing in initiates well that's just great my hype is starting to go down even more after seeing this

SlyTrooper
11-03-2014, 11:45 PM
Mayrice, just though that I should let you know, I saw a video that shows exactly what you need for the legay outfits, which you love:

For Edward, register on Initiates and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Connor, reach level 9 in the site, and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Ezio, reach level 12 in the site, and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Altair, connect to the game through the Companion App.
Unfortunately, the guy skipped the one I (and probably you as well) wanted to see the most, which was Shay's. But from the above, one can suppose that you'll have to reach some level on Initiates, and find the safe in Paris.

If they've sorted the leveling out so that it actually gives me xp for the fact that I've 100% completed every AC game then I won't have a problem. If they haven't, this cr*p needs to go...

SpiritOfNevaeh
11-03-2014, 11:54 PM
Mayrice, just though that I should let you know, I saw a video that shows exactly what you need for the legay outfits, which you love:

For Edward, register on Initiates and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Connor, reach level 9 in the site, and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Ezio, reach level 12 in the site, and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Altair, connect to the game through the Companion App.
Unfortunately, the guy skipped the one I (and probably you as well) wanted to see the most, which was Shay's. But from the above, one can suppose that you'll have to reach some level on Initiates, and find the safe in Paris.

GDI!

Ugh, Mayo's gonna be pissseddd..

Everyone run!

MnemonicSyntax
11-04-2014, 12:00 AM
GDI!

Ugh, Mayo's gonna be pissseddd..

Everyone run!

It's not that bad. I made it to level 14 just by stating which games I played previously.

That could change, sure, but besides the App, Initiates isn't that big of a deal. Once you get it, it's unlocked forever.

Alphacos007
11-04-2014, 12:02 AM
Made some little edits in my post, had a typo somewhere and a new info added. Read the original one rather than the quotes above.
I guess I'm going out before she shows up, I don't want to be here when she reads this :rolleyes:

ACfan443
11-04-2014, 12:02 AM
Mayrice, just though that I should let you know, I saw a video that shows exactly what you need for the legay outfits, which you love:

For Edward, register on Initiates and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Connor, reach level 9 in the site, and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Ezio, reach level 12 in the site, and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Altair, connect to the game through the Companion App.
Unfortunately, the guy skipped the one I (and probably you as well) wanted to see the most, which was Shay's. It definitely has to do with Initiates as I saw in another video, but it didn't have enough quality in order to read what it was. But from the above, one can suppose that you'll have to reach some level on Initiates, and find the safe in Paris.

holy crap, level 9 and 12 for Connor and Ezio respectively? That's sounds like a lotof work. I'm super grateful Altair's is locked behind the companion app now.

m4r-k7
11-04-2014, 12:04 AM
OMG the one handed weapons look badass!! different weapons from all over the world, there is a persian looking sword and even a viking weapon. For all customization options look here http://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/2l77zv/spoiler_leaked_videos_from_customization_from_ac/

ze_topazio
11-04-2014, 12:11 AM
No legacy outfits for me then.

JustPlainQuirky
11-04-2014, 12:14 AM
Mayrice, just though that I should let you know, I saw a video that shows exactly what you need for the legay outfits, which you'll love:

For Edward, register on Initiates and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Connor, reach level 9 in the site, and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Ezio, reach level 12 in the site, and find the Initiates safe in Paris.
For Altair, connect to the game through the Companion App.
Unfortunately, the guy skipped the one I (and probably you as well) wanted to see the most, which was Shay's. It definitely has to do with Initiates as I saw in another video, but it didn't have enough quality in order to read what it was. But from the above, one can suppose that you'll have to reach some level on Initiates, and find the safe in Paris.

http://i46.tinypic.com/307oq4x.gif

....Why Ubisoft?

Never have I hated initiates more than this day.

I hope the website gets shut down.

MnemonicSyntax
11-04-2014, 12:40 AM
http://i46.tinypic.com/307oq4x.gif

....Why Ubisoft?

Never have I hated initiates more than this day.

I hope the website gets shut down.

Oh God.

I registered when it first debuted and when I tied my accounts to previous games, it put me at level 14. It's not hard at all to level up.

JustPlainQuirky
11-04-2014, 12:42 AM
Oh God.

I registered when it first debuted and when I tied my accounts to previous games, it put me at level 14. It's not hard at all to level up.

I better have your word on this.

My eyes might spontaniously spew blood if I look at that site for more than 5 minutes.

MnemonicSyntax
11-04-2014, 12:48 AM
I better have your word on this.

My eyes might spontaniously spew blood if I look at that site for more than 5 minutes.

You have my word unless it was changed. Look, I don't like Initiates either but it's really just a one time thing

Biggest suckage is that companion app. Not everyone has a cell phone or a tablet, and that part sucks.

JustPlainQuirky
11-04-2014, 12:49 AM
You have my word unless it was changed. Look, I don't like Initiates either but it's really just a one time thing

Biggest suckage is that companion app. Not everyone has a cell phone or a tablet, and that part sucks.

Thanks. I actually find that comforting.

And yeah I don't have an ipad or iphone or anything that can run apps so....

Sucks for me.

ShoryukenMan
11-04-2014, 12:50 AM
Ah, the digital age... Highly anti-consumerism. That's ok, ubisoft. I'm good on the Legacy outfits... and the glyphs... and all the side content that's locked behind it all.

Perhaps I'll pick up a used copy? Or maybe I'll find a good deal on Amazon on black friday? Either way, I won't be paying full price for this. My hype for this game has been shattered.

I mean, I knew I was going to be playing Rogue first, but this really seals the deal for me.

MnemonicSyntax
11-04-2014, 12:51 AM
Thanks. I actually find that comforting.

And yeah I don't have an ipad or iphone or anything that can run apps so....

Sucks for me.

Actually, I just realized that someone here could probably help you by logging in as *you* on their app, as it connects to Uplay and then likewise, the game itself.

Something to consider for a trusted friend.

HypeR.tgL
11-04-2014, 12:54 AM
I think it'll be easier level up than before, hopefully, because the only way to level up easily in Initiates back in the day was play through all of the games. I personally started on AC III, so I could only get so far before getting absolutely sick of the bugs.

I really hope Initiates comes through in terms of lore and story, hopefully it ties to the games more often than drawing a subplot which is totally unrelated to the games.

ze_topazio
11-04-2014, 12:55 AM
Thanks. I actually find that comforting.

And yeah I don't have an ipad or iphone or anything that can run apps so....

Sucks for me.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/strockdm/LJ%20and%20BA/Gifs/brofist.gif

JustPlainQuirky
11-04-2014, 12:55 AM
Actually, I just realized that someone here could probably help you by logging in as *you* on their app, as it connects to Uplay and then likewise, the game itself.

Something to consider for a trusted friend.

I suppose that might work.

It's still annoying as heck tho.

Namikaze_17
11-04-2014, 01:06 AM
I have that type of phone and apps...

But I don't care for all these requirements really.

It's a drag really.

JustPlainQuirky
11-04-2014, 01:10 AM
Remember when all you had to do to access all content of a game was to play the game?

Good times.

Namikaze_17
11-04-2014, 01:47 AM
Remember when all you had to do to access all content of a game was to play the game?

Good times.

"It is sometimes hard to remember how easy life was, before the world changed." :rolleyes:

pirate1802
11-04-2014, 05:35 AM
Ah, the digital age... Highly anti-consumerism.

I think the word you're looking for is anti-consumer/customer. Anti-consumerism means a completely different thing. :p If anything Ubi is pro-consumerism, going by their aggressive marketing.

JustPlainQuirky
11-04-2014, 05:55 AM
I think the word you're looking for is anti-consumer/customer. Anti-consumerism means a completely different thing. :p If anything Ubi is pro-consumerism, going by their aggressive marketing.

http://forums.ubi.com/image.php?u=1253491&dateline=1402951703

LoyalACFan
11-04-2014, 06:16 AM
OMG the one handed weapons look badass!! different weapons from all over the world, there is a persian looking sword and even a viking weapon. For all customization options look here http://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/2l77zv/spoiler_leaked_videos_from_customization_from_ac/

Heads up, everyone, there's a decently large spoiler in the Swords video. Tread lightly.

Also, concerning outfits...

Is Haytham's outfit in Unity or not? I saw someone talking about it, but the leaked vid I saw didn't show it. PS am I missing something, or is the Thomas de Carneillon outfit literally the exact same as Altair's with a different color scheme?

Namikaze_17
11-04-2014, 06:49 AM
Also, concerning outfits...

Is Haytham's outfit in Unity or not? I saw someone talking about it, but the leaked vid I saw didn't show it. PS am I missing something, or is the Thomas de Carneillon outfit literally the exact same as Altair's with a different color scheme?


Beats me about Haytham. ( Would be cool since they added Shay's outfit) And Really? I just assumed the colored Altair outfit was a tribute or something. :rolleyes:

Matt.mc
11-04-2014, 07:37 AM
Totally gonna try and made Arrow from the tv series!

JustPlainQuirky
11-04-2014, 02:52 PM
Is Haytham's outfit in Unity or not? I saw someone talking about it, but the leaked vid I saw didn't show it. PS am I missing something, or is the Thomas de Carneillon outfit literally the exact same as Altair's with a different color scheme?

If there was one I'd forgive Ubisoft for every sin they've ever committed.

SlyTrooper
11-04-2014, 08:29 PM
I better have your word on this.

That's not possible. Initiates, unless it's been fixed, was so buggy that I never got any xp for syncing all my games that I had 100% in. If I don't get my levels, I'm going to be spamming the hell out of the support team. Just don't get your hopes up.

And by the way, if you want to use the app by having someone else log in for you, I'll try if you want. I'm going to see if I can use my brother's iphone. It is on iphone, right? You don't have to, though, if you don't trust me enough. I totally understand; I probably wouldn't.

Alphacos007
11-04-2014, 08:39 PM
Yea, but unless you get glitched, reaching level 12 is pretty easy. I went almost to level 20 just by syncing all my games with the site.
And if someone needs help with the Companion App, just feel free to PM me, I have like 5 different touch devices that will probably support them so I can help out anyone.

JustPlainQuirky
11-04-2014, 08:42 PM
thanks for the offer.

tho i dont trust people with my password so....

Alphacos007
11-04-2014, 08:48 PM
You could just change your pass to something like 1234 and then change it back after. Or if you're really paranoid, use TeamViewer and type the password yourself. Anyways, I seriously hope they keep our Initiates level from before the site went off, I'd really hate to make everything again.

SlyTrooper
11-04-2014, 08:58 PM
You could just change your pass to something like 1234 and then change it back after. Or if you're really paranoid, use TeamViewer and type the password yourself. Anyways, I seriously hope they keep our Initiates level from before the site went off, I'd really hate to make everything again.

I hope the exact opposite thing, so I can actually re-sync & get my damn levels...

RA503
11-04-2014, 09:32 PM
oh, the spoiler in the swords video, sword of eden confirmed!!!!

bitebug2003
11-04-2014, 10:20 PM
Everyone,

This is to warn and remind you that the Forum Rules clearly state that you should not give out personal information, this also includes passwords.

Please post responsibly

Thank you.

andrew_m50
11-04-2014, 10:47 PM
oh, the spoiler in the swords video, sword of eden confirmed!!!!

You're just kidding, aren't you?
Or is it really a Sword of Eden?

I didn't watch the leaked videos, that's why I'm asking.

LoyalACFan
11-04-2014, 10:49 PM
You're just kidding, aren't you?
Or is it really a Sword of Eden?

I didn't watch the leaked videos, that's why I'm asking.

Nope, it really is.

Megas_Doux
11-04-2014, 10:52 PM
Nope, it really is.

That is good.

m4r-k7
11-04-2014, 10:55 PM
Although I bet its the best weapon, which means everyone in co-op will have the same weapon.

Also, combat gets ridiculously easy I think when you upgrade all your skills and have a good weapon so I am actually tempted to use a crap weapon just for the difficulty.

Megas_Doux
11-04-2014, 10:59 PM
Although I bet its the best weapon, which means everyone in co-op will have the same weapon.

Also, combat gets ridiculously easy I think when you upgrade all your skills and have a good weapon so I am actually tempted to use a crap weapon just for the difficulty.

I do the same:



Combining least power and looks.

m4r-k7
11-04-2014, 11:09 PM
Yep to me its all about the look of the assassin. If my assassin looks cool but is weak, I don't care!

Reaper-59
11-04-2014, 11:12 PM
Same as me, I kit out my assassin with what I like the look of, I don't even bother looking at the stats of weapons/armour.

ShoryukenMan
11-04-2014, 11:25 PM
@Pirate

Yes, thanks. That's the word.

m4r-k7
11-05-2014, 12:16 AM
Guy on the French forums who played and finished it has said it is his favourite game along with AC 2 :)
He says the story is good, but predictable. The customization is very developed, the fog and effects are good along with the crowds, and the parkour is good. He says sometimes Arno doesn't do what he wants but he hopes the patch will fix that. Overall he says it is an amazing game. He also says the graphics are absolutely incredible and people on the internet whining are idiots

ze_topazio
11-05-2014, 12:22 AM
Guy on the French forums who played and finished it has said it is his favourite game along with AC 2 :)
He says the story is good, but predictable. The customization is very developed, the fog and effects are good along with the crowds, and the parkour is good. He says sometimes Arno doesn't do what he wants but he hopes the patch will fix that. Overall he says it is an amazing game. He also says the graphics are absolutely incredible and people on the internet whining are idiots

That's good to hear.

Megas_Doux
11-05-2014, 02:49 AM
Guy on the French forums who played and finished it has said it is his favourite game along with AC 2 :)
He says the story is good, but predictable. The customization is very developed, the fog and effects are good along with the crowds, and the parkour is good. He says sometimes Arno doesn't do what he wants but he hopes the patch will fix that. Overall he says it is an amazing game. He also says the graphics are absolutely incredible and people on the internet whining are idiots

Thatīs nice!!!



That could be bad news to some here, though haha.

Assassin_M
11-05-2014, 02:52 AM
There's one thing I learned....if Ubi says combat is harder.....it's not. At least to us veterans.
Either that, or it's just like Naval...boring to watch but amazing to play.

HypeR.tgL
11-05-2014, 03:13 AM
The amount of side content is monolithic from the map I've seen in the leaked videos, jaysus.

I also feel like the random events are going to get **** quick, it seems like Watch Dog's murderer/thief random events. It seems like a chase and tackle/kill all over again, Watch Dogs never really had much depth when it came to side content, hope I'm wrong about this though.

Wolfmeister1010
11-05-2014, 03:32 AM
Those little dynamic encounters are certainly nice imo. They aren't very complex but seeing fights break out, people getting murdered and whatnot is great. It makes me keep my eye out and watch to try to predict what is about to happen based on the citizen's movements. Thats what I LOVED about stalkers..I tried to detect them without using eagle vision..it was an absolute rush.

And the graphics are amazing..it is just that some parts look better than others due to lighting. When it is bright and there are lots of shadows it looks so much better. It is basically the opposite of Watch Dogs lol.

One thing I hope is that there are LOTS of noises happening in the environment. I know there is a lot of chatter, but I LOVE hearing church bells and songs and music. If there is as much as there was in the e3 single player demo then ambient music can go screw itself!

Wolfmeister1010
11-05-2014, 03:34 AM
I am totally gonna deck my assassin in the coolest outfit that remains somewhat simple and inconspicuous. None of those crazy mask outfits lol.

And I will use a cutlass or falchion. I like the medium/kinda slow swords bette than the fast rapiers and such.

Matt.mc
11-05-2014, 04:21 AM
There's one thing I learned....if Ubi says combat is harder.....it's not. At least to us veterans.
Either that, or it's just like Naval...boring to watch but amazing to play.
You have to remember they said it's harder when versing about 5 enemies or more, we've only really seen them verse one or two at a time. I cannot wait to try and fight like 7 enemies at once. It's gonna be hectic

Fatal-Feit
11-05-2014, 04:36 AM
You have to remember they said it's harder when versing about 5 enemies or more, we've only really seen them verse one or two at a time. I cannot wait to try and fight like 7 enemies at once. It's gonna be hectic

I've seen footage where there are more than a few enemies, and in multiple waves. Combat isn't harder, it's more inconvenient.

But nonetheless, what they've done is make stealth/assassination a more viable method.

Matt.mc
11-05-2014, 04:40 AM
I've seen footage where there are more than a few enemies, and in multiple waves. Combat isn't harder, it's more inconvenient.

But nonetheless, what they've done is make stealth/assassination a more viable method.

Sorry, I don't understand the difference? Could you explain?

Fatal-Feit
11-05-2014, 05:31 AM
Sorry, I don't understand the difference? Could you explain?

It's not challenging, it just requires more work.

dxsxhxcx
11-05-2014, 07:45 AM
You have to remember they said it's harder when versing about 5 enemies or more, we've only really seen them verse one or two at a time. I cannot wait to try and fight like 7 enemies at once. It's gonna be hectic

what doesn't mean much if you need to constantly change your playstyle and create havoc in order to to find 5 or more guards to fight...

andrew_m50
11-05-2014, 08:27 AM
Guy on the French forums who played and finished it has said it is his favourite game along with AC 2 :)
He says the story is good, but predictable. The customization is very developed, the fog and effects are good along with the crowds, and the parkour is good. He says sometimes Arno doesn't do what he wants but he hopes the patch will fix that. Overall he says it is an amazing game. He also says the graphics are absolutely incredible and people on the internet whining are idiots

Did he say something about the present day storyline?

boosho
11-05-2014, 01:06 PM
So this was tweeted earlier on the initiates twitter, reading the text on the helix is interesting specially the comment about how you would experience "living history right from the comfort of your living room" and how that fits with MD..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1SQX2-CUAMINp8.jpg:large

topeira1980
11-05-2014, 01:19 PM
what doesn't mean much if you need to constantly change your playstyle and create havoc in order to to find 5 or more guards to fight...

exactly.

combat looks... umm... like it could be harder, but level 1 enemies against a level 4 arno are nothing. they die in one hit. level 4 enemies seem way more interesting to fight.... but if i remember right certain zones arent difficult and other are, so in certain areas combat is always easy. i hate this kind of system. makes the game challenging and fun for a few hours and then you get stronger and all challenge goes down the toilet.
and it doesnt matter if fighting against 5 enemies is challenging when they only come in groups of 3... IS IT, UBI!??!



Guy on the French forums who played and finished it has said it is his favourite game along with AC 2

oh no! he liked the game?!? he's probably an UBI employee. its probably yves himself!! (-neogaf logic)

Subject J80
11-05-2014, 01:26 PM
What was this leaked footage recording on? Worst recordings....are they trying to make the game look bad?